[Manga] Chapter 376 Discussion

[Sakuranbo]

Originally Posted by Fukitsu Naruto

-Well it's not like we know how Pein came to posses these different bodies to begin with. If his first body that we saw him in was Yahiko's then it might be the case in that Nagato lost his own body and Yahiko willingly gave up his own so his friend may live. Or it could be that Nagato took Yahiko's body so that he may live on with him in spirit. But those are just my guesses.

The latter sounds like a reasonable cause.

[Luminion Lancer]

Originally Posted by KurayamiLeader

The latter sounds like a reasonable cause.

-Well it's not like its unheard of either. It might explain why Nagato became so bitter at the world but this is assuming my guess is correct.

[tkdtiger]

Originally Posted by Zoe

Sis: Jiraiya, where's the Rikudou-eye guy?
[/spoiler]

He's talking about Pein in this comment right...lol...Prob. a dumb question, but I got a little confused with all those words

[Nuu]

yes tkd he is talking about Pein in that statement.... But i think that latter one seemes to fit more

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by Zoe

Spoiler for most likely one so far:

扉、自来也が巻物に契約のサインしてるとこ
Title page, Jiraiya is signing a contract on a scroll

カメレオンの中のペイン
Pain inside the chameleon
ペイン(!?今までとチャクラの質がちがう…)
Pain (!? The quality of the chakra up till now is different...)

カエルの顔した自来也の両肩にカエルが乗っかってる
Frogs are riding on both shoulders of the frog-faced Jiraiya
姐「自来也よぉ、どこに六道の目のやつがおるんじゃ？」
Sis: Jiraiya, where's the Rikudou-eye guy?
自来也「今は口寄せしたやつの中に入って消えとるんです」
Jiraiya: He went inside of the summon and disappeared
頭「なるほどなぁ、んで自来也、やっぱりアレを使うっちゅーんか？」
Boss: I see, so Jiraiya, you're really gonna use that?
姐「アレは疲れるゆーたやろ」
Sis: That will wear you out
自来也「はぁ、しかしアイツにはそれしか…」
Jiraiya: Yeah, but against this guy nothing else...
頭「母ちゃん、やらにゃあアカンみたいやの」
Boss: Kaa-chan, < ?? need to think about this line a bit>
姐「しゃーないの、いくで」
Sis: There's no choice, let's go
自来也「頼みます」
Jiraiya: Thanks

ペイン(なんだ？先生の様子が今までと違う…)
Pain (what? Sensei's appearance is different from before...)
ペインがまた口寄せしてカマキリを出す
Pain summons a praying mantis
自来也(やはり口寄せか…)
Jiraiya (Of course, a summon...)
自来也「頭!!!」
Jiraiya: Boss!!!
頭「おぅ」
Boss: Yeah
自来也＆頭『蝦蟇油炎弾!!』
Jiraiya and Boss: Toad Oil Flame Bullet
カマキリ燃える
The praying mantis gets burned up
ペインがいのしし口寄せ
Pain summons a boar
頭「なんじゃ？口寄せばっかしてきよってからに」
Boss: What? He just did a summon
自来也「そうなんです…アイツなら…長門ならもっと多くの術を使ってきていいはずなんですがの ぉ」
Jiraiya: Yeah... that guy... If it were Nagato he should be using a wider variety of jutsu, but...
頭「ん～なんか裏がありそうじゃーのぉ」
Boss: Hmmm~ looks like the bottom
姐「とりあえずはやつを引っ張り出さんことには始まりゃせんわい」
Sis: Anyway, let's start by pulling him out
自来也「はい、姐さん!!!」
Jiraiya: Yes, Sis!!!
姐「いくぞ」
Sis: Let's go
自来也＆姐『蝦蟇油炎柱!!』
Jiraiya and Sis: Toad Oil Flame Pillar!!
いのしし燃える
The boar burns up
自来也「お二人、次のが出る前に…」
Jiraiya: You two, before we do the next...
姐「わかっとる」
Sis: I know
頭「しかし母ちゃん…」
Boss: But Kaa-chan...

姐「黙らんかい！」
Sis: Shut it!
姐が目を閉じる
Sis closes her eyes
姐「おった！あそこだ！あのパイプの影じゃ！」
Sis: There! It's over there! The shadow of that pipe!
自来也「よし、捕まっててください」
Jiraiya: Ok, please catch him
自来也が飛んで近づく
Jiraiya jumps and approaches
ペイン(!?見つかったか…)
Pain(!? He found me...)
カメレオンが姿を現す
The chameleon appears
カメレオンの口からペインが出て、カメレオンが自来也に突っ込む
Pain exits the chameleon's mouth, the chameleon thrusts into Jiraiya
自来也「くっ!?」
Jiraiya: Huh!?
自来也『螺旋丸!!!』
Jiraiya: Rasengan!!!
カメレオン消える
Chameleon is wiped out
目を閉じたペインが足場の平らな所に立ってる
Pain closes his eyes and stands in a place with level footing
頭「こっからが本番じゃのぉ…いよいよアレを…」
Boss: From here on it's the real thing... That...
自来也「お頭、ちょっとお待ちを」
Jiraiya: Boss, please wait
頭「なんじゃい？」
Boss: What?
姐「空気を読まんかい！あれでもやつは自来也の弟子じゃ、話があるじゃろ、自来也？」
Sis: Read the situation! That guy is Jiraiya's student, there's probably something to talk about, Jiraiya?
自来也「はい、少し気になることがありまして…」
Jiraiya: Yes, there something that I'm wondering about...
自来也とペインが向かいあってる
Jiraiya and Pain face eachother
自来也「長門…わしを直接殺すのがイヤで口寄せにやらせたのか？」
Jiraiya: Nagato... You're not going to kill me with your own hands but with summons?
ペイン「…」
Pain: ...

ペインが目を開ける
Pain opens his eyes
頭「おぉ!!」
Boss: Ah!!
姐「ホンマに六道の目じゃの」
Sis: It's the real Rikudou-eye
自来也「長門、お前にはいろんな術を…」
Jiraiya: Nagato, I taught you a lot of jutsu...
ペイン「口寄せしかしないんじゃない…口寄せしかできないのさ」
Pain: It's not that there's only summons... I can only do summons
自来也「なにぃ!?」
Jiraiya: What!?
姐と頭も驚いた表情
Boss and Sis have surprised faces

ペイン「先生…アナタも様子が変わりましたね…」
Pain: Sensei... Your appearance has also changed...
自来也「も？たしかにこの術で容姿は変わった。しかしお前のように中身まで変わっとらんのぉ。 …それより、 なぜ口寄せしかできん？」
Jiraiya: And? This jutsu changes your appearance. But you've even changed on the inside. ...That aside, why can you only do summons?
ペイン「この体だからですよ…」
Pain: It's this body...
自来也「この体？どういうことだ？」
Jiraiya: This body? What does that mean?
ペイン「オレは１人ではない」
Pain: I am not one person
自来也(!?)
Jiraiya (!?)
ペイン「オレがこの名を名乗る前。長門という名を捨てるきっかけが弥彦の死」
Pain: Before I gave myself this name. I threw away the name Nagato with Yahiko's death
自来也「やはり弥彦は死んでおったか」
Jiraiya: So Yahiko's dead
ペイン「その時オレも一度死んでる」
Pain: At that time I was also dead
自来也の驚いた表情
Jiraiya has a surprised face


"ペイン誕生の裏には一体何が!?"
What the hell is at the bottom of the birth of Pain!?

次回「友の死」
Next time: Friend's death

Mmm, my money's on this one (unless something more likely comes out), simply because its so damn predictable, 75 % of the shit that’s in there I've been predicting since 6 chapters ago so, I'm going to bet on the statement that Kishimoto's writing is predictable. Aside from that, after reading this manga for so long, this spoiler has a Kishimoto feel to it. Then again, people who fake spoilers take it to the extreme, the fake drawings are more then enough proof of that. While people like my self who are more observant, can speculate the parts that seem a bit iffy, if being able to copy Kishimoto’s style of drawing is possible then, I don’t see why being able to copy Kishimoto’s style of writing is not. So, If this is proven to be fake whoever wrote it is a pretty good faker.

[Blaine]

Some pictures are out which show jiraiya's new appearance and pein summoning(?) two bodies in akatsuki cloaks.

Spoiler:

[Irkalla]

Lol. fungus growing on Jiraiya's nose

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Hah those little frogs...they remind me of MASTER YODA!

[EXEs]

Yeah, those definately look real.

[Blaine]

Here is another possible translation not sure if its confirmed yet.

Spoiler:

自来也仙人モードとは？
Just what is "Sennin mode"?

仙人・夫「そろそろ一人で仙人モードに変身出来るようにならんといけんで自来也ちゃん」
Sennin frogs: "It's about time you learned to activate "sennin mode" by yourself, Jiraiya-chan!"

じらいや「お二人に比べたらまだまだペーペーですんでの」
Jiraiya: I've still got a long way to go before I can compare to you two.

ペイン「大蛇丸にしろ　自来也にしろ’三忍は独得な力を使うな」
Pain: Whether it's Orochimaru or Jiraiya, it would seem Sannin each have their own unique abilities...

仙人嫁「で・・・どこにおるんならその六道の眼は？」
Ane-san: So...where is that Rikudou eyes?

自来「透明化する口寄せ動物にの中に隠れています」
Jiraiya: Hiding inside the mouth of a kuchiyose beast which turns invisible.

仙人嫁「だとするとカメレオン類のやつらじゃの」
Ane-san: That'd make it a Chameleon monster...

自来「一応探知結界は張ってるんですがの」
Jiraiya: I've already set a detection barrier, actually...

仙人嫁「そんなんではラチあかん。生物探知でこっちから引きずりだしちゃる」
Ane-san: That's not gonna get us very far. Let's bring him out with biological detection!

仙人夫「しかし、何でそがーな奴と自来也ちゃんがやり合ってるの？」
Kashira: But why are you fighting this guy, Jiraiya-chan?

自来「かつての弟子でしても・・・」
Jiraiya: He's a former appretince of mine...

両仙人「！！」
Ane-san/Kashira: !!

仙人夫「それなら、そいつも『予言の子』・・・か！？
　　　　　　ならなんで戦う」

Kashira: That makes him a "child of prophecy"! Why are you fighting him, then?

自来「どうやら正しい方向に成長しなかったようでの
　　　　それにすでに死んでかと聞かされまして・・・・・
　　　　この子ではないと思い込んでおりました」

Jiraiya: Well, it would seem he didn't turn out very well...and since I'd heard he was dead...I was convinced it wasn't him.

仙人「まあ、あの予言は大ボケじじいの戯言じゃ気にするな！」
One of the frogs: Well, that prophecy's no more than a senile old geezer's delusion, so don't you worry!

仙人嫁が生物探知機（蛇）でカメレオンを拘束、
仙人夫が口から水（超水圧）で一刀両断
The sennin use "biological detection" (a snake) to capture the chameleon, and (flush Pain out?) by spitting water.

予言の回想
Flashback to "the prophecy"

大蝦蟇仙人が自来也に予言をする
The great Toad Hermit makes Jiraiya a prophecy.

「エロイだけのおまえにも弟子ができるようになる。
その弟子は将来忍の世に大きな変革をもたらす忍になる
それによって世に安定をもたらすか・・・破壊をもたらすか
そのどちらかの変革じゃ」

"You who lust after women shall one day have an apprentice. This apprentice shall bring a great revolution to the world of shinobi. And with it, will come either stability, or destruction. One, or the other."

Note: It may be deliberately vague point in the prophecy, but I honestly can't tell if the most natural interpretation here is "one" apprentice or "multiple" apprentices..

回想終わり
End of flashback

ペイン口寄せ
二人の人間が登場（顔見えず）
Pain summons two people, whose faces we can't see.

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Originally Posted by Blaine

Here is another possible translation not sure if its confirmed yet.

Spoiler:

自来也仙人モードとは？
Just what is "Sennin mode"?

仙人・夫「そろそろ一人で仙人モードに変身出来るようにならんといけんで自来也ちゃん」
Sennin frogs: "It's about time you learned to activate "sennin mode" by yourself, Jiraiya-chan!"

じらいや「お二人に比べたらまだまだペーペーですんでの」
Jiraiya: I've still got a long way to go before I can compare to you two.

ペイン「大蛇丸にしろ　自来也にしろ’三忍は独得な力を使うな」
Pain: Whether it's Orochimaru or Jiraiya, it would seem Sannin each have their own unique abilities...

仙人嫁「で・・・どこにおるんならその六道の眼は？」
Ane-san: So...where is that Rikudou eyes?

自来「透明化する口寄せ動物にの中に隠れています」
Jiraiya: Hiding inside the mouth of a kuchiyose beast which turns invisible.

仙人嫁「だとするとカメレオン類のやつらじゃの」
Ane-san: That'd make it a Chameleon monster...

自来「一応探知結界は張ってるんですがの」
Jiraiya: I've already set a detection barrier, actually...

仙人嫁「そんなんではラチあかん。生物探知でこっちから引きずりだしちゃる」
Ane-san: That's not gonna get us very far. Let's bring him out with biological detection!

仙人夫「しかし、何でそがーな奴と自来也ちゃんがやり合ってるの？」
Kashira: But why are you fighting this guy, Jiraiya-chan?

自来「かつての弟子でしても・・・」
Jiraiya: He's a former appretince of mine...

両仙人「！！」
Ane-san/Kashira: !!

仙人夫「それなら、そいつも『予言の子』・・・か！？
　　　　　　ならなんで戦う」

Kashira: That makes him a "child of prophecy"! Why are you fighting him, then?

自来「どうやら正しい方向に成長しなかったようでの
　　　　それにすでに死んでかと聞かされまして・・・・・
　　　　この子ではないと思い込んでおりました」

Jiraiya: Well, it would seem he didn't turn out very well...and since I'd heard he was dead...I was convinced it wasn't him.

仙人「まあ、あの予言は大ボケじじいの戯言じゃ気にするな！」
One of the frogs: Well, that prophecy's no more than a senile old geezer's delusion, so don't you worry!

仙人嫁が生物探知機（蛇）でカメレオンを拘束、
仙人夫が口から水（超水圧）で一刀両断
The sennin use "biological detection" (a snake) to capture the chameleon, and (flush Pain out?) by spitting water.

予言の回想
Flashback to "the prophecy"

大蝦蟇仙人が自来也に予言をする
The great Toad Hermit makes Jiraiya a prophecy.

「エロイだけのおまえにも弟子ができるようになる。
その弟子は将来忍の世に大きな変革をもたらす忍になる
それによって世に安定をもたらすか・・・破壊をもたらすか
そのどちらかの変革じゃ」

"You who lust after women shall one day have an apprentice. This apprentice shall bring a great revolution to the world of shinobi. And with it, will come either stability, or destruction. One, or the other."

Note: It may be deliberately vague point in the prophecy, but I honestly can't tell if the most natural interpretation here is "one" apprentice or "multiple" apprentices..

回想終わり
End of flashback

ペイン口寄せ
二人の人間が登場（顔見えず）
Pain summons two people, whose faces we can't see.

It seems quite obvious that "that" person will be Naruto...

[Sasuke_Bateman]

Are those Pain's two other bodies? If so that's kinda pityful.

[tatami]

Originally Posted by Blaine

Here is another possible translation not sure if its confirmed yet.

Spoiler:

自来也仙人モードとは？
Just what is "Sennin mode"?

仙人・夫「そろそろ一人で仙人モードに変身出来るようにならんといけんで自来也ちゃん」
Sennin frogs: "It's about time you learned to activate "sennin mode" by yourself, Jiraiya-chan!"

じらいや「お二人に比べたらまだまだペーペーですんでの」
Jiraiya: I've still got a long way to go before I can compare to you two.

ペイン「大蛇丸にしろ　自来也にしろ’三忍は独得な力を使うな」
Pain: Whether it's Orochimaru or Jiraiya, it would seem Sannin each have their own unique abilities...

仙人嫁「で・・・どこにおるんならその六道の眼は？」
Ane-san: So...where is that Rikudou eyes?

自来「透明化する口寄せ動物にの中に隠れています」
Jiraiya: Hiding inside the mouth of a kuchiyose beast which turns invisible.

仙人嫁「だとするとカメレオン類のやつらじゃの」
Ane-san: That'd make it a Chameleon monster...

自来「一応探知結界は張ってるんですがの」
Jiraiya: I've already set a detection barrier, actually...

仙人嫁「そんなんではラチあかん。生物探知でこっちから引きずりだしちゃる」
Ane-san: That's not gonna get us very far. Let's bring him out with biological detection!

仙人夫「しかし、何でそがーな奴と自来也ちゃんがやり合ってるの？」
Kashira: But why are you fighting this guy, Jiraiya-chan?

自来「かつての弟子でしても・・・」
Jiraiya: He's a former appretince of mine...

両仙人「！！」
Ane-san/Kashira: !!

仙人夫「それなら、そいつも『予言の子』・・・か！？
　　　　　　ならなんで戦う」

Kashira: That makes him a "child of prophecy"! Why are you fighting him, then?

自来「どうやら正しい方向に成長しなかったようでの
　　　　それにすでに死んでかと聞かされまして・・・・・
　　　　この子ではないと思い込んでおりました」

Jiraiya: Well, it would seem he didn't turn out very well...and since I'd heard he was dead...I was convinced it wasn't him.

仙人「まあ、あの予言は大ボケじじいの戯言じゃ気にするな！」
One of the frogs: Well, that prophecy's no more than a senile old geezer's delusion, so don't you worry!

仙人嫁が生物探知機（蛇）でカメレオンを拘束、
仙人夫が口から水（超水圧）で一刀両断
The sennin use "biological detection" (a snake) to capture the chameleon, and (flush Pain out?) by spitting water.

予言の回想
Flashback to "the prophecy"

大蝦蟇仙人が自来也に予言をする
The great Toad Hermit makes Jiraiya a prophecy.

「エロイだけのおまえにも弟子ができるようになる。
その弟子は将来忍の世に大きな変革をもたらす忍になる
それによって世に安定をもたらすか・・・破壊をもたらすか
そのどちらかの変革じゃ」

"You who lust after women shall one day have an apprentice. This apprentice shall bring a great revolution to the world of shinobi. And with it, will come either stability, or destruction. One, or the other."

Note: It may be deliberately vague point in the prophecy, but I honestly can't tell if the most natural interpretation here is "one" apprentice or "multiple" apprentices..

回想終わり
End of flashback

ペイン口寄せ
二人の人間が登場（顔見えず）
Pain summons two people, whose faces we can't see.

hmm some star wars and night watch?

[jacky1982]

Thanks for this valuable thread!

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[xAdvo]

Originally Posted by Blaine

Here is another possible translation not sure if its confirmed yet.

Spoiler:

自来也仙人モードとは？
Just what is "Sennin mode"?

仙人・夫「そろそろ一人で仙人モードに変身出来るようにならんといけんで自来也ちゃん」
Sennin frogs: "It's about time you learned to activate "sennin mode" by yourself, Jiraiya-chan!"

じらいや「お二人に比べたらまだまだペーペーですんでの」
Jiraiya: I've still got a long way to go before I can compare to you two.

ペイン「大蛇丸にしろ　自来也にしろ’三忍は独得な力を使うな」
Pain: Whether it's Orochimaru or Jiraiya, it would seem Sannin each have their own unique abilities...

仙人嫁「で・・・どこにおるんならその六道の眼は？」
Ane-san: So...where is that Rikudou eyes?

自来「透明化する口寄せ動物にの中に隠れています」
Jiraiya: Hiding inside the mouth of a kuchiyose beast which turns invisible.

仙人嫁「だとするとカメレオン類のやつらじゃの」
Ane-san: That'd make it a Chameleon monster...

自来「一応探知結界は張ってるんですがの」
Jiraiya: I've already set a detection barrier, actually...

仙人嫁「そんなんではラチあかん。生物探知でこっちから引きずりだしちゃる」
Ane-san: That's not gonna get us very far. Let's bring him out with biological detection!

仙人夫「しかし、何でそがーな奴と自来也ちゃんがやり合ってるの？」
Kashira: But why are you fighting this guy, Jiraiya-chan?

自来「かつての弟子でしても・・・」
Jiraiya: He's a former appretince of mine...

両仙人「！！」
Ane-san/Kashira: !!

仙人夫「それなら、そいつも『予言の子』・・・か！？
　　　　　　ならなんで戦う」

Kashira: That makes him a "child of prophecy"! Why are you fighting him, then?

自来「どうやら正しい方向に成長しなかったようでの
　　　　それにすでに死んでかと聞かされまして・・・・・
　　　　この子ではないと思い込んでおりました」

Jiraiya: Well, it would seem he didn't turn out very well...and since I'd heard he was dead...I was convinced it wasn't him.

仙人「まあ、あの予言は大ボケじじいの戯言じゃ気にするな！」
One of the frogs: Well, that prophecy's no more than a senile old geezer's delusion, so don't you worry!

仙人嫁が生物探知機（蛇）でカメレオンを拘束、
仙人夫が口から水（超水圧）で一刀両断
The sennin use "biological detection" (a snake) to capture the chameleon, and (flush Pain out?) by spitting water.

予言の回想
Flashback to "the prophecy"

大蝦蟇仙人が自来也に予言をする
The great Toad Hermit makes Jiraiya a prophecy.

「エロイだけのおまえにも弟子ができるようになる。
その弟子は将来忍の世に大きな変革をもたらす忍になる
それによって世に安定をもたらすか・・・破壊をもたらすか
そのどちらかの変革じゃ」

"You who lust after women shall one day have an apprentice. This apprentice shall bring a great revolution to the world of shinobi. And with it, will come either stability, or destruction. One, or the other."

Note: It may be deliberately vague point in the prophecy, but I honestly can't tell if the most natural interpretation here is "one" apprentice or "multiple" apprentices..

回想終わり
End of flashback

ペイン口寄せ
二人の人間が登場（顔見えず）
Pain summons two people, whose faces we can't see.

This one seems to correspond with the pictures i think the middle picture of the fat toad is The Great Toad Hermit because his necklace corresponds with the mark on jiraiyas headband and none of the other spoilers mention anything about another toad and that toad in the picture is obviously neither of the two on his shoulders.

IMO Jiraiya isn't going to die this time around because i dont think it is possible for pein to kill him using just summons i think he will manage to defeat that body and konan or someone will tell him that that is not the last he will see of pain before she escapes in a mass of paper and then jiraiya will return to the village with knowledge of pain and when naruto returns they will start training to defeat pain

[Davitz]

i think that the prophecy is made to look like it means pein but it is infact naruto
perhaps its shows something to come
and instead of naruto becoming hokage, he becomes something very different?
those people pein summons at the end must be bodys of his because you can see all the piercings round the shoulder/kneck area of one of them

[Irkalla]

Lol, that prophecy sounds a little cheesy.
So anyway, can we expect Jiraiya to perform the lightsaber no jutsu?

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by Blaine

Some pictures are out which show jiraiya's new appearance and pein summoning(?) two bodies in akatsuki cloaks.

Spoiler:

Omg it's Kimimaro!!!?

The multiple body thing is kinda meh. It just looks weak. Rather have him use Sharignan mk II. >.> <.<

[Ichimaru]

judging so far in this fight, does itachis conversation with kisame during the great escape about fightin jiraiya is truth???

how many bodies are currently fightin jiraiya? is it still pein 1on1 or is it pein with multiple bodies standing aside while 1on1? i dont think pein can mass attack in pairs....why is he dragging this out?

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Originally Posted by Davitz

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Your sig is a spoiler (you'd better not post in anime threads...) and besides it's wrong aswell..

Naruto carries the name of his mother...not from Minato...who's clan name is unknown..