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iamandragon · 2007-10-26, 05:10

Curses Bs-i for holding the widescreen...and I don't like watching BS-i broadcasts because of that annoying BS-i symbol at the corner all the time.

toxic_trance · 2007-10-26, 05:40

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Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

so has anyone seen the wide screen version already?

EDIT: by the way, looking at the comparison screen shots of wide screen vs. full screen, whose that girl with the broom and wearing an apron? Haven't seen her after episode 1...I guess she's just a minor character then...

All we know is that her name is Misae-san..she is Uber HOT

and she is the Landlady of Sunohara. She is a minor character but important enough to feature in the OP so, i guess we will see more of her in the future

Ultima_Rasengan05 · 2007-10-26, 05:47

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Originally Posted by toxic_trance

All we know is that her name is Misae-san..she is Uber HOT

and she is the Landlady of Sunohara. She is a minor character but important enough to feature in the OP so, i guess we will see more of her in the future

oh ok thanks for the info...next to Tomoyo, she sure is hot and has that aura of being on the same level of being "cool" as Tomoyo.

Though I still rank Tomoyo as my favorite character in Clannad, despite being hot and cool.
I feel like re-watching episode 1...even though the wide screen hasn't come out yet.

Liingo · 2007-10-27, 08:57

Widescreen version of Ep 1 is out by Eclipse!

Time to see what's missing from the original airing. (Once I finish downloading..)

~~kevin13~~ · 2007-10-27, 08:59

Awesome!

Thanks for the heads up.

Sephi · 2007-10-27, 09:20

Not to sure were to put this. But there isn't a video quality thread in the Clannad subforum like there is in Gundam 00. So posting it here

Quite happy the widescreen version is released. Did some comparisons. From the looks of it the 4:3 versions have somewhat more vibrant colors than the widescreen version

Very notable in the intro. But less notable in the episode itself. Now i'm wondering if it's the encoding or the raw. Since the widescreen version is around the same size as the 4:3 version (170-175mb). Also notice the 4:3 version is slightly sharper, or my eyes are playing tricks on me

Spoiler for screencaps inside, putted in spoiler tag to save space.:

Mentar · 2007-10-27, 09:33

The bs-i airing was VERY poor. Tons of dotcrawl and rainbowing, along with many other kinds of artifacts. The colors were also a trace different, but I chose not to artificially brighten them up, because then they will look oversaturated in other parts.

Well - this is the only 16:9 game in town, and there won't be better raws as far as I know, so I did with the source what I could.

The sharpness part is partly right (I had to submit the source to stronger smoothing than the 4:3 raws due to its poor quality), but you need to keep in mind that it's going to be stretched to fullscreen mode, and there the 4:3 raw will lose its screenshot advantage. (You effectively downscaled the 4:3 footage here relative to fullscreen playback, and downscaling always leads to a "sharper" visual impression). Color "vibrancy" always hurts when you fight rainbowing - no way around it - but I tried to keep it to acceptable levels.

Not saying that no better result was possible video-wise, but it's the best compromise of artifact- and dotcrawl removal and sharpness I could come up with.

iamandragon · 2007-10-27, 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephi

Not to sure were to put this. But there isn't a video quality thread in the Clannad subforum like there is in Gundam 00. So posting it here

Quite happy the widescreen version is released. Did some comparisons. From the looks of it the 4:3 versions have somewhat more vibrant colors than the widescreen version

Very notable in the intro. But less notable in the episode itself. Now i'm wondering if it's the encoding or the raw. Since the widescreen version is around the same size as the 4:3 version (170-175mb). Also notice the 4:3 version is slightly sharper, or my eyes are playing tricks on me

Spoiler for screencaps inside, putted in spoiler tag to save space.:

Blame BS-i the channel! The use a really cheap video sampling method and thus provides a bad definition of the video, which makes the contrast loose...

Sephi · 2007-10-27, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Mentar

The bs-i airing was VERY poor. Tons of dotcrawl and rainbowing, along with many other kinds of artifacts. The colors were also a trace different, but I chose not to artificially brighten them up, because then they will look oversaturated in other parts.

Well - this is the only 16:9 game in town, and there won't be better raws as far as I know, so I did with the source what I could.

The sharpness part is partly right (I had to submit the source to stronger smoothing than the 4:3 raws due to its poor quality), but you need to keep in mind that it's going to be stretched to fullscreen mode, and there the 4:3 raw will lose its screenshot advantage. (You effectively downscaled the 4:3 footage here relative to fullscreen playback, and downscaling always leads to a "sharper" visual impression). Color "vibrancy" always hurts when you fight rainbowing - no way around it - but I tried to keep it to acceptable levels.

Not saying that no better result was possible video-wise, but it's the best compromise of artifact- and dotcrawl removal and sharpness I could come up with.

I see, thanks for clearing that up. I will probably still archive the widescreen version since i got a widescreen myself. Hopefully bs-i will get there act together and broadcast the next episodes in better quality. Hope i didn't came over to negative in my previous post, as i'm still very happy there is a widescreen version. And words come short to show my gratitude towards the fansubbing community for letting me enjoy anime

Thanks for explaining, and many thanks for the wonderful releases from your group. ^.^

iamandragon · 2007-10-27, 10:55

BS-i have been boardcasting shows with this crappy quality for years...you can't expect them to change just for one show...

Jeiku · 2007-10-27, 14:34

Well this takes quite an effort to put forth then. Thanks, guys at Eclipse - especially for the slight picture reworkings for the widescreen version.

iamandragon · 2007-10-27, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Jeiku

Well this takes quite an effort to put forth then. Thanks, guys at Eclipse - especially for the slight picture reworkings for the widescreen version.

Really? Skips off to find the sub.

boggart · 2007-10-27, 18:23

:O I go to sleep, wake up and find the Eclipse site has been updated with a WS version of CLANNAD 01...

Regardless of the poor broadcast quality, I'm sure the encoding is as good as we will get for now - so let's all sit back and enjoy CLANNAD as it was supposed to be seen.

Ichihara Asako · 2007-10-27, 18:44

Beautiful. Absolutely wonderful in widescreen. So nice to see the best show of the season in proper 16:9. The 4:3 crops are horrific.

dispelPotion · 2007-10-27, 21:15

yeah, i thought the girls were pretty cute in this anime. there wasn't any of that weird nose profile going on. it seemed like the characters were stars in other series. i especially enjoyed that bread she was eating. what does clannad mean in japanese? ohh wait, the beginning, where the girl is walking up to school was drawn really weird. legs were waaaaay too long.
i gave it an average because i cant remember any of their names right now.

~~kevin13~~ · 2007-10-28, 01:17

I don't think it means anything in Japanese but is from the English world "Clan" which means like a family, your kin. The fact that there's and "nad" there is because of some scots band by the same name.

Key have a thing for English names: Kanon, Air, Little Busters, Planetarium.

Don't quote me on that though.

Kinny Riddle · 2007-10-28, 02:35

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Originally Posted by mickal555

I don't think it means anything in Japanese but is from the English world "Clan" which means like a family, your kin. The fact that there's and "nad" there is because of some scots band by the same name.

Key have a thing for English names: Kanon, Air, Little Busters, Planetarium.

Don't quote me on that though.

I've already explained in various posts, so I won't write again.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=107

~~kevin13~~ · 2007-10-28, 02:49

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

I've already explained in various posts, so I won't write again.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=107

You quoted me.

boggart · 2007-10-28, 03:05

LOL... I guess with so many threads and so many posts, it's a bit hard for the newbies to grasp some of the more basic concepts we've discussed over the months.

~~kevin13~~ · 2007-10-28, 03:09

WTH

I thought I was half answering a question there, but apparently I replyed to the wrong thread.
><.

Bloody oath.

EDIT: Oh no wait now I see it. I think I'm loosing my mind here.

View Poll Results: Clannad - Episode 1 Rating
Perfect 10	139	38.19%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	100	27.47%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	75	20.60%
7 out of 10 : Good	29	7.97%
6 out of 10 : Average	11	3.02%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	4	1.10%
4 out of 10 : Poor	3	0.82%
3 out of 10 : Bad	1	0.27%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	0	0%
1 out of 10 : Painful	2	0.55%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

2007-10-27, 09:20	Link #386
Sephi Thinking outside the box Graphic Designer Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Age: 37	Not to sure were to put this. But there isn't a video quality thread in the Clannad subforum like there is in Gundam 00. So posting it here Quite happy the widescreen version is released. Did some comparisons. From the looks of it the 4:3 versions have somewhat more vibrant colors than the widescreen version Very notable in the intro. But less notable in the episode itself. Now i'm wondering if it's the encoding or the raw. Since the widescreen version is around the same size as the 4:3 version (170-175mb). Also notice the 4:3 version is slightly sharper, or my eyes are playing tricks on me Spoiler for screencaps inside, putted in spoiler tag to save space.: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. __________________ Currently watching: Aria the Origination & Dennou Coil Sephi: Anime Icons \| Signatures & Avatars \| Renders

2007-10-26, 05:10	Link #381
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	Curses Bs-i for holding the widescreen...and I don't like watching BS-i broadcasts because of that annoying BS-i symbol at the corner all the time.

2007-10-27, 08:57	Link #384
Liingo Love Hina? Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kangaroos live in my backyard =P	Widescreen version of Ep 1 is out by Eclipse! Time to see what's missing from the original airing. (Once I finish downloading..)

2007-10-27, 08:59	Link #385
~~kevin13~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: May 2007	Awesome! Thanks for the heads up.

2007-10-27, 09:33	Link #387
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	The bs-i airing was VERY poor. Tons of dotcrawl and rainbowing, along with many other kinds of artifacts. The colors were also a trace different, but I chose not to artificially brighten them up, because then they will look oversaturated in other parts. Well - this is the only 16:9 game in town, and there won't be better raws as far as I know, so I did with the source what I could. The sharpness part is partly right (I had to submit the source to stronger smoothing than the 4:3 raws due to its poor quality), but you need to keep in mind that it's going to be stretched to fullscreen mode, and there the 4:3 raw will lose its screenshot advantage. (You effectively downscaled the 4:3 footage here relative to fullscreen playback, and downscaling always leads to a "sharper" visual impression). Color "vibrancy" always hurts when you fight rainbowing - no way around it - but I tried to keep it to acceptable levels. Not saying that no better result was possible video-wise, but it's the best compromise of artifact- and dotcrawl removal and sharpness I could come up with.

2007-10-27, 10:55	Link #390
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	BS-i have been boardcasting shows with this crappy quality for years...you can't expect them to change just for one show...

2007-10-27, 14:34	Link #391
Jeiku Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Well this takes quite an effort to put forth then. Thanks, guys at Eclipse - especially for the slight picture reworkings for the widescreen version.

2007-10-27, 18:23	Link #393
boggart 渡辺曜のお兄さん Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Australia	:O I go to sleep, wake up and find the Eclipse site has been updated with a WS version of CLANNAD 01... Regardless of the poor broadcast quality, I'm sure the encoding is as good as we will get for now - so let's all sit back and enjoy CLANNAD as it was supposed to be seen.

2007-10-27, 18:44	Link #394
Ichihara Asako Horoist Join Date: Oct 2007	Beautiful. Absolutely wonderful in widescreen. So nice to see the best show of the season in proper 16:9. The 4:3 crops are horrific.

2007-10-27, 21:15	Link #395
dispelPotion Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	yeah, i thought the girls were pretty cute in this anime. there wasn't any of that weird nose profile going on. it seemed like the characters were stars in other series. i especially enjoyed that bread she was eating. what does clannad mean in japanese? ohh wait, the beginning, where the girl is walking up to school was drawn really weird. legs were waaaaay too long. i gave it an average because i cant remember any of their names right now.

2007-10-28, 01:17	Link #396
~~kevin13~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: May 2007	I don't think it means anything in Japanese but is from the English world "Clan" which means like a family, your kin. The fact that there's and "nad" there is because of some scots band by the same name. Key have a thing for English names: Kanon, Air, Little Busters, Planetarium. Don't quote me on that though.

2007-10-28, 03:05	Link #399
boggart 渡辺曜のお兄さん Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Australia	LOL... I guess with so many threads and so many posts, it's a bit hard for the newbies to grasp some of the more basic concepts we've discussed over the months.

2007-10-28, 03:09	Link #400
~~kevin13~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: May 2007	WTH I thought I was half answering a question there, but apparently I replyed to the wrong thread. ><. Bloody oath. EDIT: Oh no wait now I see it. I think I'm loosing my mind here.