2007-12-11, 23:32 | Link #121 | |
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I didn't know the raws looked that bad; I actually didn't read the topic that well when I made that post. Encoding is too much still, I should come out of retirement. Who wants a washed up encoder with a 4 year old CPU and plenty of mf scripts to go round? |
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2008-01-04, 17:24 | Link #122 |
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Oh, this again.
Rather than going into all the arguments I made about why I avoid .mkv like the plague a few months ago, I'll simply state again that I have bad experiences time and time again with the format, and as long as I continue to have them, I'll continue to avoid .mkv Again, .avi is more popular than .mkv by greater than 2-1 in downloads. Aren't the .mkv crowd just saying: "The whole world hates my format. What's wrong with the whole world?" |
2008-01-04, 18:01 | Link #123 | |
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If mkv was the only option, you'd get it working and we'd be done with it. No more silly buggers. There as much chance as XVid/AVI not working on your syster as x264/MKV if you simply use CCCP on a clean install. That and use a proper OS, no Windows ME.......... |
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2008-01-04, 18:39 | Link #124 |
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Some people are idiots (read trolls) and like to pretend that "it just doesn't work omfg". Even without the CCCP it's extremely easy to play MKVs.
Seems pretty stupid to purposefully not watch certain shows because the files are in a container format you have declared "does not work/is a plague/kills chidren" or some such. But since you are clearly just a troll pretending to be ignorant, I doubt you really are avoiding them at all but continue to play them (with perfect ease) when you have to. |
2008-01-04, 20:14 | Link #125 |
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Well you know I'm not gonna get into this whole elitist $hit where people with 8, 9 hardrives hooked up as one cpu with every supped up processing whatchamacallit hitting at full capacity e-penising others who just have "an above average computer" ...I admit that the overall quality lies in formats that exceed the easily usable avi...Hell I used to love divx with a passion and wouldn't change for jack, but like most I had no choice and in many cases glad I did finally accept the change, but the $hit that kills me about the whole mkv situation (If it's such a wave of the future, soopa format) is that almost no 2 mkv files are the same and it's totally sporadic the performance you get based on what group you use...Some mkv's play fine, don't overload my cpu at all, high quality and all that...Then you get files that wouldn't play right if you lit a candle in catholic mass for it (And I certainly don't just mean hi-def vs. non hi-def)...
Then you try and be smart and say fukk it I'm converting this $hit and when you try sometimes the converter won't even convert that $hit...I have 2 MKV to AVI converters and I have a better chance of walking away with all the winnings from a liquer store dice-game then I have of mkv's consistently converting...Like right now I have the DN directors cut on my cpu but can't watch it nor convert it because it "one of those" mkv's...So keep looking down your noses at people with just GOOD COMPUTERS (not black-market supped up or techy-kid versions--in some cases not even 2 or 3 years old) who get frustrated they can't play what's supposed to be the best format...News at 11, the best format can't be one that's so UN-universal that damn near every file you watch of the format is different...Atleast with avi you trade limited quality for knowing exactly what you're dealing with (even with hi-def)...Mkv probably wouldn't pi$$ so many off or even spawn trolling if it was at the very least a consistent format... I would buy into all techy elitism if all those files just worked the same instead of being straight pot luck (atleast for me and many others)...
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2008-01-04, 20:46 | Link #126 | |
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That's one of the problems with x264 in this debate -- there's 2850328523 features, 4 of them only usable by chickens, and lots of them increase decoding power. This is a good thing and a bad thing, I guess -- H.264 is a VERY stupid CODEC, imo, when you get down to its sheer power. I've been watching Froth-Bite's Nodame Cantabile recently, and they're probably the best fansubs I've ever seen, especially encoding wise. It's more or less flawless. I'm too lazy to hook up my TV-Out right now, so I'm watching them on my 22" CRT (which is what I use for encoding!), and the files look more or less flawless. Even though I haven't encoded in a while and my video eyes are a bit rusty, I still stop pretty often when watching things and think "Hey, blocking..." Hasn't happened ONCE with this series. The subtitles themselves are amazing too -- these fansubs represent pure unadulturated enjoyment of the series with nothing to distract from it. Of corse they ARE .mp4 and should be .mkv, but... naw, j/k... These fansubs are KING. If anyone knows the encoder, give me his email, so I can give him the "DON OF LIFE" award if I don't know him already :P (Edit: A little bit of a coinsidence though, since I can argue with myself that they look amazing to me because the style of the encoding -- sharpness levels, contrast/brightness, etc, etc, etc, etc -- are similar to what I'd have done with it too... but there you go...) In spite of the above paragraph, seriously, screw .avi. I can probably make XVid out-perform 90% of the current crop of fansub encoders still, but I seriously can't even touch the quality of these episodes. You could probably put my PC together for maybe £500 these days too... |
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2008-01-04, 20:54 | Link #127 | ||
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MKV is the "wave of the future" because it allows the user so many possibilities of what to do with it. Not to mention it is opensource and was outlined well enough to adapt to future codecs/formats quite easily (see without hacks). The reason you "can't" play some MKVs is not because of the container, it is because you don't have the correct decoder or Matroska splitter installed (see CCCP). Obvious answer that has been said a thousand times. Or if you mean you can't play because your system is too slow...well that has obvious answer too. Don't download HD files with H.264 video, since that is essentially the only thing requiring lots of power to decode. The problem would be the same if the container were MP4, or even god forsaken AVI. A different container is not going to make the video suddenly easier to decode. High definition H.264 is just a bitch, thats all there is to it. Typical suggestion is get CoreAVC, and if you don't have a machine over 4 years old you probably won't have problems. Quote:
In summary, you aren't bitching about the container. No one really knows what you are bitching about anymore. It works fine, both playing and re-encoding. If it doesn't work for you perhaps instead of thinking "there is something wrong with it", instead ponder "i am doing it wrong" because it certainly sounds like you are. The problem you seem to have with MKV is because unlike AVI which forces everyone to use certain specifics, MKV does not. So get over it...or start creating some "union of encoders" which specifically forces them to use certain codecs/settings :P. Guess what, it is not the users/leeches/customers(lol) which are going to decide what container a group is going to use. Last edited by Nicholi; 2008-01-04 at 21:06. |
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2008-01-04, 21:23 | Link #128 | |
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for all our recent releases, mkv has proved to be a lot more popular. first i thought this to be because we only had an MKV version for our HD gundam release. but after looking at non-HD only releases, mkv is still a lot more popular. to give you an idea, we got 21928 downloads on h264/MKV ef-tale of memories-, and 6485 downloads for the XviD/AVI version.
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2008-01-05, 00:48 | Link #129 | |
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2008-01-05, 03:33 | Link #131 |
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Do I really have to donate 100$ to every guy who can't play H264, to get a better computer than they already got?
It seems like everyone is running on ancient computers... I'm not one of these elitist, lolz, far from. But I kinda stopped using Windows 3.11 quite a while ago. And I kinda don't expect my XviD-codecs to work for every possible format.
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2008-01-05, 07:27 | Link #133 | |
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2008-01-05, 13:41 | Link #135 | |
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My computer specs: AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.60GHz 512MB RAM Cost at purchase: ~£100 (2 and a half years ago) It runs .mkv releases fine. Haven't had any trouble at all. And if you have a worse system than mine, then seriously, you gotta upgrade. |
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2008-01-05, 14:00 | Link #136 |
My E-Penis > Your E-Penis
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i used to easily run any h264 encode on my Sempron 2400+ 256meg ram GeForce 2gts...
HD encodes would run too, with coreavc. now i have a core2duo@1.86ghz, 1 gig of ram, and it runs HD H264 fine, hardly uses my CPU. and it's not even a top of the line computer
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2008-01-05, 16:07 | Link #138 |
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Oh yeah, just to mention... I actually used to play h264 mkv fine before I upgraded the RAM - the computer actually came with 256MB. I upgraded in the hope I'd be able to watch HD releases. Alas, that didn't make any difference...
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