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TheNewbSwordsMan · 2008-01-04, 19:44

speaking of cliche, the only cliche thing about this anime is that the blood is simply kiddy blood, a little squirt here, a little squirt there, my 14 year old brother also watches this show and he thinks its still cartoonish, so i wouldnt call anything gross or gruesome.

ive yet to be shocked by any violent act in this anime, but seeing as it is a shounen anime which is meant for boys and im in my mid/late twenties, im not so surprised. but think about this,the whole show is about spirits using SWORDS as weapons, i think i would take objectiion MORE, if there was less blood, than there is at the current lvl.

cp9 · 2008-01-05, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Thewanderer

Well Bleach is Bleach, and it can't be Bleach without the random blood splatters and sword wounds here & there... but it seems to steadily be getting more gruesome and violent.

Not much was in the first arc. Random hollows getting cut up. The first bloodbath was when Ichigo was pwned by Byakuya in the real world. But then in SS, there came Mayuri with his megacreepy babyworm Bankai and how he's able to recieve gaping wounds and still talk trash. It was awesome... you don't see much of that kinda stuff in shonen.

Then the Bound that died relatively slowly, shriveling up before poofing to dust. And now the scene with Yami hitting a subordinate so hard, her head was crushed. Oh, and not to mention the random bloody swordfights and...

Spoiler for Manga:

I might be missing a few gruesome/violent events, but feel free to point them out.

What I'm supprised at is how much all of this don't effect some peoples' opinions about how cliche Bleach is. I think the volence and blood is one of the things that makes Bleach unique as a shonen anime.

Discuss.

nothing compared to elfen lied, that one is hardcore

WhiteWings · 2008-01-06, 02:50

Well Bleach is not that graphic in showing the details though the recent events in the latest manga pushes the envelope for a non-mature rating series in non-violent(so to speak) themes.

Lelite · 2008-01-13, 01:28

What I found out recently was that injuries appear more serious and 'hurt' me more (so to speak) when there's LESS blood, not more of it.

I was watching D.Gray-Man, and I there were a few moments when I kind of.... winced. So far, that's never happened in Bleach. And there is little blood in DGM - the anime, of course.

Again, I was watching Claymore and... the injuries were more real, but still. Large fountains of blood take away all of the realism.

Bleach is fairly tame, compared to some things.

WONDERMIKE · 2008-02-08, 00:46

Spoiler for manga:

Ziv · 2008-02-08, 01:02

kagato3 · 2008-02-08, 02:55

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Originally Posted by WONDERMIKE

Spoiler for manga:

WONDERMIKE · 2008-03-05, 17:17

and here we are with ep163

Spoiler for ep163 / chpt273/274 which is the same:

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2008-03-05, 19:52

Wow, they srsly toned down the violence. Im not going to say thats what made the scene, but sheer damage that she had to reverse in the manga far outweighs what was in the anime, which didnt make her abilities look nearly as impressive. Like hell Menoly was disintergrated, though they did try and make up for it a little with the shadowed body regenerating..

Mr. DJ · 2008-03-05, 20:18

well, remember when Yami pretty much ripped off Chad's arm? they altered that scene pretty well in the anime.

WONDERMIKE · 2008-03-05, 22:19

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Originally Posted by DjTrizz

well, remember when Yami pretty much ripped off Chad's arm? they altered that scene pretty well in the anime.

you're right, the same thing happened when Sado went against Noitorra

btw, I find it kind of funny that it seems to be "ok" if an arrow hits you in your chest/stomach, but it's not "ok" when it pierces through your throat

Nico · 2008-03-05, 22:40

nice comparisons wondermike, its very interesting, never knew the anime was toned down so much

Mr. DJ · 2008-03-05, 23:52

damn...manga one is better, not like it's bloody o_o

Jays · 2008-03-06, 02:41

Haha Seriously?

Like I thought the sensorship laws here in North America were bad, but it looks like Japan is catching up quick!

You can have women with tits the size of watermelons taking showers, and it's ok to show everything as long as you don't get a nipple in there or down there. But something as trivial is this gets sensored?

Bleach is starting just isn't as cool as it once was anymore.

Amirali · 2008-03-06, 02:41

Spoiler for orihime abilities:

Thewanderer · 2008-03-06, 02:51

Maybe we'll get it "uncut" in the DvDs like they did with some of the early Higurashi scenes

kagato3 · 2008-03-06, 15:56

Problem is how they censored it they ended up majorly changeing what was going on there. The way it plays out in the anime it seems almost as if Orihime has given in to Azein while you could tell she was resisting them in the manga.

BleachOD · 2008-03-06, 18:58

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Originally Posted by WONDERMIKE

you're right, the same thing happened when Sado went against Noitorra

btw, I find it kind of funny that it seems to be "ok" if an arrow hits you in your chest/stomach, but it's not "ok" when it pierces through your throat

Spoiler for egads...let save some space:

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You know...I kept wondering why that looked weird and I didn't remember it

Why? Why?! how could they edit Orihime's beatdown and make so MILD!!!!

CENSORSHIP SHOULD DIE!

Thewanderer · 2008-03-06, 19:04

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Originally Posted by kagato3

Problem is how they censored it they ended up majorly changeing what was going on there. The way it plays out in the anime it seems almost as if Orihime has given in to Azein while you could tell she was resisting them in the manga.

I was actually talking mainly about the Menoly healing scene.

Amirali · 2008-03-13, 12:41

I wanted to see Loly beg and plead, while Grimm mercilessly snapped her leg in two

. But the censoring this episode was fine........they emphasized the gruesomeness of the cannibalism enough.

2008-01-06, 02:50	Link #43
WhiteWings Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Clara, California	Well Bleach is not that graphic in showing the details though the recent events in the latest manga pushes the envelope for a non-mature rating series in non-violent(so to speak) themes. __________________ "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anybody driving faster is a maniac?" – *George Carlin*

2008-02-08, 00:46	Link #45
WONDERMIKE kanpai! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: +48° 28' 43.50", +16° 35' 17.08" Age: 40	Spoiler for manga: ok i re-read some manga chapters and since the anime tends to censor violent scenes i wonder how they will put the lolly/menolly scenes on screen, you know, when grimmjaw tortues one of them and breaks her leg while she is screaming in pain

2008-03-05, 17:17	Link #48
WONDERMIKE kanpai! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: +48° 28' 43.50", +16° 35' 17.08" Age: 40	and here we are with ep163 Spoiler for ep163 / chpt273/274 which is the same: __________________ '

2008-03-05, 19:52	Link #49
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 41	Wow, they srsly toned down the violence. Im not going to say thats what made the scene, but sheer damage that she had to reverse in the manga far outweighs what was in the anime, which didnt make her abilities look nearly as impressive. Like hell Menoly was disintergrated, though they did try and make up for it a little with the shadowed body regenerating.. __________________

2008-03-06, 02:41	Link #55
Amirali Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Over the rainbow. Age: 39	Spoiler for orihime abilities: I don't mind them toning down scenes where it's irrelevant to the plot (like with Szayel) but there's no way they should have watered down the Loly Menolly injuries. Those injuries are very important indicators of Orihime's healing powers.....

2008-01-04, 19:44	Link #41
TheNewbSwordsMan Member Join Date: Aug 2007	speaking of cliche, the only cliche thing about this anime is that the blood is simply kiddy blood, a little squirt here, a little squirt there, my 14 year old brother also watches this show and he thinks its still cartoonish, so i wouldnt call anything gross or gruesome. ive yet to be shocked by any violent act in this anime, but seeing as it is a shounen anime which is meant for boys and im in my mid/late twenties, im not so surprised. but think about this,the whole show is about spirits using SWORDS as weapons, i think i would take objectiion MORE, if there was less blood, than there is at the current lvl.

2008-01-13, 01:28	Link #44
Lelite Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	What I found out recently was that injuries appear more serious and 'hurt' me more (so to speak) when there's LESS blood, not more of it. I was watching D.Gray-Man, and I there were a few moments when I kind of.... winced. So far, that's never happened in Bleach. And there is little blood in DGM - the anime, of course. Again, I was watching Claymore and... the injuries were more real, but still. Large fountains of blood take away all of the realism. Bleach is fairly tame, compared to some things.

2008-02-08, 01:02	Link #46
Ziv Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ALASKA!!! W00t! I'm BACK FINALLY!!!! Age: 36

2008-03-05, 20:18	Link #50
Mr. DJ Schwing! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Central Texas Age: 40	well, remember when Yami pretty much ripped off Chad's arm? they altered that scene pretty well in the anime.

2008-03-05, 22:40	Link #52
Nico Member Join Date: May 2004	nice comparisons wondermike, its very interesting, never knew the anime was toned down so much

2008-03-05, 23:52	Link #53
Mr. DJ Schwing! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Central Texas Age: 40	damn...manga one is better, not like it's bloody o_o

2008-03-06, 02:41	Link #54
Jays Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hockey Nation	Haha Seriously? Like I thought the sensorship laws here in North America were bad, but it looks like Japan is catching up quick! You can have women with tits the size of watermelons taking showers, and it's ok to show everything as long as you don't get a nipple in there or down there. But something as trivial is this gets sensored? Bleach is starting just isn't as cool as it once was anymore.

2008-03-06, 02:51	Link #56
Thewanderer Hiyori Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 43	Maybe we'll get it "uncut" in the DvDs like they did with some of the early Higurashi scenes __________________

2008-03-06, 15:56	Link #57
kagato3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Problem is how they censored it they ended up majorly changeing what was going on there. The way it plays out in the anime it seems almost as if Orihime has given in to Azein while you could tell she was resisting them in the manga. __________________ Higurashi: Its a bit like watching a trainwreck, except you keep getting to see different trains wrecking with roughly the same passengers, into a variety of different objects. Also, the trains are driven by monkeys. On LSD.

2008-03-13, 12:41	Link #60
Amirali Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Over the rainbow. Age: 39	I wanted to see Loly beg and plead, while Grimm mercilessly snapped her leg in two . But the censoring this episode was fine........they emphasized the gruesomeness of the cannibalism enough.