Mai Otome 0 ~S.ifr~ Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[dxanato]

Originally Posted by White night selenite

I think its the only gemstone, which can work with Harmonium. (John Smith in M.O. was very surprised and filled with happiness, when he saw the UBD)

Arika got it to work briefly without the conductor or is Arika family haxors.

[Sageblink]

Originally Posted by dxanato

Arika got it to work briefly without the conductor or is Arika family haxors.

Cause she was either the protector (otome) and the singer

[Sikon]

We have no evidence that the PWD was the first GEM ever made (I'm not saying it necessarily wasn't, just that we don't know either way). Fumi was the first Otome, yes - but there's no guarantee about the order in which the GEMs were made.

[Ippikiookami]

Where does it say Fumi was the first Otome? I can't remember. I had thought that Otome existed during her era and were used by kings to destroy other rulers' armies and such. I thought Fumi was just the person who had founded Garderobe and created a centralized system for training and controlling the Otome so that the world wouldn't be so chaotic with all the devastatingly powerful Otome being created and deployed willy nilly.

[Same_Shark]

Originally Posted by Ippikiookami

Where does it say Fumi was the first Otome? I can't remember. I had thought that Otome existed during her era and were used by kings to destroy other rulers' armies and such. I thought Fumi was just the person who had founded Garderobe and created a centralized system for training and controlling the Otome so that the world wouldn't be so chaotic with all the devastatingly powerful Otome being created and deployed willy nilly.

It says in one of the very first episodes of Otome. Fumi was the founder of Garderobe and the Otome system. The war you're thinking about is the War of the Dragon King. Fumi fought in the War of the 12 Kingdoms which was 300 years before Otome started.

[White night selenite]

Hmm... I think somewhere in the series people are talking about Fumi as the first otome.
But I have another idea:
I'm sorry if I'll be repeating someones previous ideas again (sorry, Sikon), but I've recently (better said finally, after all this time!!) realized that PWD/UBD and Blue Sky Sapphire are very similar gemstones:
1. They are both kept in pendants, behind some glass or whatever (all other gems were kept as the ring and earring in a box)
2. Both have this mysterious "heart-responding" function - they come out of the pendant as a result of someones strong emotion (Arikas courage when she was protecting Mashiro with her own body; Ninas anger and jealousy)
3. Both can turn the robes into the ultimate modes with ultimate elements (Akatsuki, Sword of Miroku)

So it can mean that they were made with the same technology and for the same purpose...
Or it can simply mean nothing...

Anyway, I hope in next eps we will see some Miss Maria action.
I remember, that she said "... it was nice to see this nostalgic gemstone again (BSSap.)" or something like that, she was smiling when Arika was enrolled at Garderobe and it was Ms. Maria, who told Erstin everything about Lena. I think they were friends and maybe she will help Lena against Five Collumns in the final battle of S.ifl XD

[Same_Shark]

Originally Posted by White night selenite

Anyway, I hope in next eps we will see some Miss Maria action.
I remember, that she said "... it was nice to see this nostalgic gemstone again (BSSap.)" or something like that, she was smiling when Arika was enrolled at Garderobe and it was Ms. Maria, who told Erstin everything about Lena. I think they were friends and maybe she will help Lena against Five Collumns in the final battle of S.ifl XD

Are you also a Miss Maria fan cuz if you are put it there! I don't think Miss Maria was Lena's friend, but maybe a teacher that could relate to a favorite pupil. Every graduating class at Garderobe probably has a "monster" and I bet anything that Miss Maria was the "monster" in her class. If anyone helps Lena in the end, it'll probably be Sakura, Raquel, Miyu, and eventually Elliot will turn on the rest of Columns.

[Sikon]

Originally Posted by Ippikiookami

Where does it say Fumi was the first Otome? I can't remember. I had thought that Otome existed during her era and were used by kings to destroy other rulers' armies and such.

You're thinking the War of the Dragon Lord, which was 50 years before the TV series, where Otome did indeed fight each other. This was the war in which Monica died.

The Otome system was created after the War of the Twelve Kings, a different war 300 years before Mai-Otome.

It's definitely said somewhere in the TV series that Fumi was the first Otome. It doesn't mean she was necessarily the first first, just the first known to modern Garderobe. I'll look for the source.

[Sakuya]

Why is it always the ancient stories that is the most interesting but we don't get to see? The previous group of HiME in My-HiME and Fumi's generation in My-Otome.

[solarknight123]

Originally Posted by Sakuya

Why is it always the ancient stories that is the most interesting but we don't get to see? The previous group of HiME in My-HiME and Fumi's generation in My-Otome.

Ya know! I wish sunrise would be smart enough to give us stuff like that instead of useless sequels with little to no plot line (Zwei much). I mean i'm sure that fans would love that and want to see it, and plus think of all the questions that could be answered, especally the ones for otome. "Sign" oh well, gues we'll just have to wait to see what they do with S.ifr and hope it comes out well.

[Sakuya]

Originally Posted by solarknight123

Ya know! I wish sunrise would be smart enough to give us stuff like that instead of useless sequels with little to no plot line (Zwei much). I mean i'm sure that fans would love that and want to see it, and plus think of all the questions that could be answered, especally the ones for otome. "Sign" oh well, gues we'll just have to wait to see what they do with S.ifr and hope it comes out well.

Oh yeah, Si.fr is also about the past. But somehow, it doesn't seem as interesting as the one with Fumi in it. Well, at least not yet. I hope it gets more interesting. The good thing about it being only 3 episodes is that the action will pick up sooner. Can't wait to see episode 2 with all the new Otome that's mentioned!

[Keroko]

That's because the one with Fumi in it holds the answers to a crapload of questions that have plagued us, while Sifr will only give us the answer to one.

[Sikon]

Originally Posted by Sakuya

Why is it always the ancient stories that is the most interesting but we don't get to see? The previous group of HiME in My-HiME and Fumi's generation in My-Otome.

I agree completely.

[solarknight123]

Originally Posted by Keroko

That's because the one with Fumi in it holds the answers to a crapload of questions that have plagued us, while Sifr will only give us the answer to one.

Yeah and god forbid they should actually answer a question we have for Mai-Otome. lol

[Keroko]

Well, to be fair, the question of 'how was the Souten created' will most likely be answered.

Problem is, I couldn't care less about that. -_-;

With a bit of luck, though, the question whether there is a link between HiME and Otome will be answered as well, now that I am looking forward too.

[solarknight123]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Well, to be fair, the question of 'how was the Souten created' will most likely be answered.

Problem is, I couldn't care less about that. -_-;

With a bit of luck, though, the question whether there is a link between HiME and Otome will be answered as well, now that I am looking forward too.

Well to be honest, i'm hoping that there is no connection between the two series and thier just alternate universes, but if they are planning too, than they've got their work cut out for them. BTW what is the Souten?

[Sakuya]

Originally Posted by solarknight123

Well to be honest, i'm hoping that there is no connection between the two series and thier just alternate universes, but if they are planning too, than they've got their work cut out for them. BTW what is the Souten?

Souten no Seigyoku, Blue Sky Sapphire, Arika's and Lena's GEM.

[solarknight123]

Originally Posted by Sakuya

Souten no Seigyoku, Blue Sky Sapphire, Arika's and Lena's GEM.

oh, thanks

[AceMan]

I watched it, finally!

Well, I was afraid that it will mess up everything, that the facts from MO and MO-0 won't correspond to each other, but it turned out to be a quite reliable prequel. I was also terrified when I saw Lena's wearing completely different robe, but the next episode preview gives clues that she somehow will get the BBS

One thing I didn't like - this ep. was too short. Really, it was too rushed. The first ep. of Zwei was a lot more balanced.

Yes, I agree that Elliot has to be related to Erstin somehow.

I am curious as hell about the matters that will probably happen next, I mean especially the Arika's dad matter.

As for the dates mentioned before, then assuming that Sifr's mother died not so long ago, it would be like that (approximately):

A.R. 281 - War of the Dragon King
A.R. 305 - Otome 0 takes place, Sifr is 14, Lena 16
A.R. 318 - Sifr is 27, Lena's 29, they die. Arika and Nina are 1
A.R. 332 - Otome TV takes place, Arika and Nina are 14

It's quite simple. I like dates ^^

Aaaaaand... if the whole "HiME and Otome" thing in the preview is true... HELL YEAH!

Okay.. but there's one thing that keeps wondering me - why Lena introduced herself as Yumemiya? Was it just made-up name to not reveal her true one to Sifr?

Oh, and a few fast observations: Lena looks like 25 already, her maid outfit is awful. Sifr is hawt like her doughter or even more

Aaaaand one more thing :P Maybe the Sifr's eye colour will change permanently after the end of story? It would explaing the situation.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by LVD

That Cherry Storm Chrysoberyl makes me think of when Arika first uses her mother's GEM. Like some prototype, but that'd be.... weird.


We only know that they were recently against having Otomes because of the whole Mai's been missing for some odd number of years and everyone thinking it's because of some tragic incident. Or whatever Takumi said to Natsuki in that one episode where he said why he's against the use of Otomes. Unless I've completely missed something....

Maybe I should re-watch the series.

Spoiler for The power of re-watching!:

Seeing that scene again made me sad all over again, i always thought yea you gloat now that she has lost her powers and shes easier to kill but her daughter will be the salvation of all you. Arika was nice not to take revenge later on that shows true character. But i still shed a tear seeing her mum die BASTARDS