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Vanehei · 2008-04-26, 13:17

I think that soon we will have a focus in Lavi because panda was lecturing him about not take the chance to become his innocence in crystal type... and that they maybe will need to leave...
Oh and the new noah looks very vampire style......

yezhanquan · 2008-04-30, 19:14

Since there's no DGM this week, I thought we might shift our focus onto the current plot.

Spoiler for current situation:

Renan Black · 2008-04-30, 19:25

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Since there's no DGM this week, I thought we might shift our focus onto the current plot.

Spoiler for current situation:

Spoiler for hypotesis:

yezhanquan · 2008-04-30, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Renan Black

Spoiler for hypotesis:

Well, depending on what Hoshino-sensei wants, she can have the "scary person + bad words = bad person" way, or the "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" way.

Spoiler for speculation:

King Lycan · 2008-04-30, 21:11

._. no DGM this week your kidding me right

no inuyasha either

Spoiler for Speculation:

Vanehei · 2008-04-30, 21:17

What if............

Spoiler for the hidden noah is:

yezhanquan · 2008-04-30, 21:25

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Originally Posted by King Lycan

._. no DGM this week your kidding me right

no inuyasha either

Spoiler for Speculation:

No SJ this week, as it's the Labour Day Golden Week in Japan.

King Lycan · 2008-04-30, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Kashima

What if............

Spoiler for the hidden noah is:

Spoiler for IMO:

Quote:

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

No SJ this week, as it's the Labour Day Golden Week in Japan.

Oh yea thanks for telling me that

Renan Black · 2008-05-02, 14:10

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Well, depending on what Hoshino-sensei wants, she can have the "scary person + bad words = bad person" way, or the "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" way.

Spoiler for speculation:

Wow, you've got a point... but I would have a heart attack if your theory was right >.<

yezhanquan · 2008-05-03, 05:15

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Originally Posted by Renan Black

Wow, you've got a point... but I would have a heart attack if your theory was right >.<

I must say that my predictions for D.Gray have been off the mark many times. Still, Komui without his glasses and lifting his hair to reveal the crosses: I swear I'll faint from the sight (too sexy, even if you're a guy).

Tormenk · 2008-05-03, 05:35

Baseless speculations tend to do that.

The only way Komui can even be remotely a Noah would be that his Noah side hasn't awakened yet. Taking that into consideration, it would seem the Earl has already gathered the Noahs by his side, seeing how he was there for Skin's awakening.

yezhanquan · 2008-05-03, 08:51

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Originally Posted by Tormenk

Baseless speculations tend to do that.

The only way Komui can even be remotely a Noah would be that his Noah side hasn't awakened yet. Taking that into consideration, it would seem the Earl has already gathered the Noahs by his side, seeing how he was there for Skin's awakening.

DGM had its fair share of WTF moments.

1) Bloody Krory. Man, whoever saw that one coming is good.
2) CC Omega turning out to be quite useless.

My point is DGM can be so crazy, and that's why I really liked it among the series in SJ.

Chaos2Frozen · 2008-05-03, 10:18

That may be, however, if your only reasoning is because it's "Too insane that it's actually possible!", then that doesn't really help at all.

King Lycan · 2008-05-03, 14:57

I do agree that DGM has WTF moments put Komui being an Noah is kinda of pushing it.

yezhanquan · 2008-05-03, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

That may be, however, if your only reasoning is because it's "Too insane that it's actually possible!", then that doesn't really help at all.

Yeah, I agree it's a bit wild. Anyway, a few more days before SJ resumes. Hang in there for the wait!

Casshern · 2008-05-04, 10:23

Some things that got me thinking:

When Lenalee's shins started bleeding there was a cross mark exactly the same as the cross marks the Noah have on their forehead.
Allen's innocence is shaped like a cross on the back of his hand and resembles the Noah's marks also.
A part of Allen's innocence is in his heart.
The marks on the noahs foreheads was called "stigmata" at some point (Shortly after Road appeared, I believe)
Stigmata are the wounds christ received on the cross: a wreath of thorns across the forehead (Noah), nails through the feet (Lenalee's innocence?), nails through the hands (Allen's innocence?), pierced in the side (The innocence Allen has in his heart?)*

Based on the above I believe the exorcists and the Noah are connected somehow.

My crazy theory: Maybe the Noah are the exorcists from 7 thousand years ago. After defeating the Earl they were forsaken by god (something to do with what General Cross said ~ "you can't fight the Earl with hatred"?). Instead of becoming Togaochi they became the Noah (maybe the Earl saved their bodies in exchange for their servitude?)

Like I said, crazy theory...

*The original stigmata is to have wounds on the feet, not the shins as Lenalee did. Allen only has the cross shape on one hand, not both. In the stigmata, the spear wound is on the right side of the chest while Allen's innocence is obviously on the left since it's part of his heart. So it's close, but not quite right. Maybe it's just artistic licence? I still think it's close enough to warrant a connection between the two.

Renan Black · 2008-05-04, 17:14

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Maybe it's just artistic licence? I still think it's close enough to warrant a connection between the two.

I do believe there is a connection between Noahs and Exorcits, but I'm not sure if your 'theory' is right. In fact, I would not ever think about that and, although it can make sense, I don't believe this connection is explained by the Stigmatas =p

Artistic licence? Why not?!

Arsanii · 2008-05-04, 19:09

umm... this really doesn't pertain to the plot or story-line of DGM at all but how come animesuki doesn't have a forum for it? It does have an anime (up to 81 at the moment unless a new ones been released) and it's pretty popular... (at least from what I've seen around. It's ranked pretty high)

Chaos2Frozen · 2008-05-04, 21:27

The Anime is popular now, but back when it first started there were alot of complaints...

yezhanquan · 2008-05-05, 05:30

It's a very long shot, but I guess it wouldn't be wrong to say that there is an Asian Noah somewhere. Hence, my crazy theory that it could be Komui. He represents "resolve"; as such, he is the only Noah that can touch Innocence without it harming him or giving him away.

I know: crazy theory.

2008-04-26, 13:17	Link #781
Vanehei Sousuke rules Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mèxico city	I think that soon we will have a focus in Lavi because panda was lecturing him about not take the chance to become his innocence in crystal type... and that they maybe will need to leave... Oh and the new noah looks very vampire style...... __________________ Baratijas Blog, we rock your world www.baratijasblog.com

2008-04-30, 19:14	Link #782
yezhanquan Observer/Bookman wannabe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 39	Since there's no DGM this week, I thought we might shift our focus onto the current plot. Spoiler for current situation: I wouldn't agree that the Earl could wipe out the Order any time he wants to. Cross was evidently more than a match for the level 4. However, I do agree that he could destroy MOST of the Order with a snap of his fingers. There's a reason why he's keeping the game going on, and I think Hoshino-sensei is onto something here.

2008-04-30, 21:11	Link #785
King Lycan User Title eaten by ravenous bunnies IT Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zeon Age: 33	._. no DGM this week your kidding me right no inuyasha either Spoiler for Speculation: I don't think there is an Noah In the Black HQ cause they would have the thingies across their forehead and maybe Helvaska could detect it and thinking Komui is an Noah...well is kinda of impossible IMO __________________ Tumblr

2008-04-30, 21:17	Link #786
Vanehei Sousuke rules Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mèxico city	What if............ Spoiler for the hidden noah is: Helvaska __________________ Baratijas Blog, we rock your world www.baratijasblog.com

2008-05-03, 05:35	Link #791
Tormenk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gaf's Room	Baseless speculations tend to do that. The only way Komui can even be remotely a Noah would be that his Noah side hasn't awakened yet. Taking that into consideration, it would seem the Earl has already gathered the Noahs by his side, seeing how he was there for Skin's awakening. __________________ "Are you afraid of change? Or are you afraid to change?" "Wheel turns, river flows and life goes on." "Best way to kill a man, is to leave him alone." "Until you come, until we close our eyes."

2008-05-03, 10:18	Link #793
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	That may be, however, if your only reasoning is because it's *"Too insane that it's actually possible!"*, then that doesn't really help at all. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2008-05-03, 14:57	Link #794
King Lycan User Title eaten by ravenous bunnies IT Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zeon Age: 33	I do agree that DGM has WTF moments put Komui being an Noah is kinda of pushing it. __________________ Tumblr

2008-05-04, 10:23	Link #796
Casshern Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Some things that got me thinking: When Lenalee's shins started bleeding there was a cross mark exactly the same as the cross marks the Noah have on their forehead. Allen's innocence is shaped like a cross on the back of his hand and resembles the Noah's marks also. A part of Allen's innocence is in his heart. The marks on the noahs foreheads was called "stigmata" at some point (Shortly after Road appeared, I believe) Stigmata are the wounds christ received on the cross: a wreath of thorns across the forehead (Noah), nails through the feet (Lenalee's innocence?), nails through the hands (Allen's innocence?), pierced in the side (The innocence Allen has in his heart?)* Based on the above I believe the exorcists and the Noah are connected somehow. My crazy theory: Maybe the Noah are the exorcists from 7 thousand years ago. After defeating the Earl they were forsaken by god (something to do with what General Cross said ~ "you can't fight the Earl with hatred"?). Instead of becoming Togaochi they became the Noah (maybe the Earl saved their bodies in exchange for their servitude?) Like I said, crazy theory... *The original stigmata is to have wounds on the feet, not the shins as Lenalee did. Allen only has the cross shape on one hand, not both. In the stigmata, the spear wound is on the right side of the chest while Allen's innocence is obviously on the left since it's part of his heart. So it's close, but not quite right. Maybe it's just artistic licence? I still think it's close enough to warrant a connection between the two.

2008-05-04, 19:09	Link #798
Arsanii Member Join Date: Jul 2007	umm... this really doesn't pertain to the plot or story-line of DGM at all but how come animesuki doesn't have a forum for it? It does have an anime (up to 81 at the moment unless a new ones been released) and it's pretty popular... (at least from what I've seen around. It's ranked pretty high)

2008-05-04, 21:27	Link #799
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	The Anime is popular *now*, but back when it first started there were alot of complaints... __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2008-05-05, 05:30	Link #800
yezhanquan Observer/Bookman wannabe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 39	It's a very long shot, but I guess it wouldn't be wrong to say that there is an Asian Noah somewhere. Hence, my crazy theory that it could be Komui. He represents "resolve"; as such, he is the only Noah that can touch Innocence without it harming him or giving him away. I know: crazy theory.