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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 78 | 50.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 23.08% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 13.46% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 7.05% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.28% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 2.56% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.64% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 1.92% | |
Voters: 156. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-06-29, 20:01 | Link #301 | |
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Mostly it's from discovering that girls are not for fighting That and Meltrans getting hit by the POWER OF ROCK |
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2008-06-30, 01:58 | Link #305 | ||
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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"Think carefully about how Ranka-chan must feel to come out here despite the risk" Not sure how correct the translation was, but I think Lunar is usually best when it comes to context. Except for some strange liberties with slang they seem to take... Anyway, my point being... ya, it was a crappy move, but he's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. |
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2008-06-30, 02:38 | Link #306 |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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You know, not only did Ranka risk her life to resolve the crisis, she did so knowing she might do irrepairable damage to her career by possibly missing her debut concert. Something she's spent probably months now working at it. If not for the lucky break with the movie, she'd still be trying to sell carrots.
Putting it into that context would have made more sense than making an appeal to Alto to be sensitive to Ranka's feelings. The fact that she selflessly risked everything should be obvious even to a dunce like Alto. If Ranka wants Alto to fly her home, he'd better get flapping. |
2008-06-30, 02:59 | Link #307 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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I don't think Ranka wants anything! Michael, being Alto's superior, basically ordered him to do it without it sounding like an order... (or guilt tripped him into it, take your pick) Though it would've been nice to see Alto say good-bye to Sheryl... |
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2008-06-30, 03:04 | Link #308 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Plus, on a more calculating level, being able to attach her name to legends like Minmei and Basara who used music to end conflict is not likely to be all that damaging to Ranka's career in the world of Macross, although it's possible. |
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2008-06-30, 03:10 | Link #309 |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Actually, when you look at it, Ranka just had her debut concert. She did come in expecting to perform, after all.
It's a matter of perspective. As a friend who's been giving Ranka an ongoing push to go after Alto, Michael sees Ranka's perspective, but he probably doesn't see Sheryl's yet. Had he seen a semiconcious Sheryl struggling to get out of bed just to give Alto his chance at fulfilling his dream, then perhaps he would have been more inclined to let Alto decide on his own. An idol's number one priority is her health. If Sheryl doesn't go out and perform, then she jeopardizes her career, which is something that she's spent her entire life working on. It's one hell of a sacrifice, and it's certainly not one that I would have ever expected from any character in this series. Alto's not a dunce enough not to recognize that, which is why he resists. In all fairness, though, after what she did, I'd say that if Sheryl wanted Alto to give her a tour of that endless sky, then the only decision that Alto ought to make is about how to fit her sick bed into his VF. |
2008-06-30, 03:19 | Link #310 |
Michiko Malandro = Sexy
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bryan/College Station, Texas USA
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Alto is a misguided and lost angsty teenager that makes decisions not based upon what other people feel but what he wants in that moment. All impulse decisions. And he's rather oblivious of what's going on around him in the emotional sense. I suppose he's your typical teenage male anime character who are almost always morons in most regards. So it's not that he's an asshole on purpose, he's an asshole by nature. So are most of these types of anime male characters.
This type of stereotyping with male characters is so bad and so over used that almost any main male character that is shown to be in touch with his female friend's emotions is considered a weakling or homosexual or very shounen ai. I for one don't like the stereotype as it's overused constantly. |
2008-06-30, 03:29 | Link #311 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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And Alto wasn't precisely taking a joyride. He was taking Ranka home, because she had an important concert the day after. Sheryl, we can assume, would be fine after a few days of rest, but she wasn't in any state to go flying anyway. Sure, he could have told Michel to bring Ranka back, but that would have been ungrateful to the one who just saved all their lives. Sheryl'll understand. She'd probably kick his ass if he used her illness as an excuse to snub Ranka. She'll also understand the time constraints - she's a pro, after all. |
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2008-06-30, 04:22 | Link #312 | |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
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Alto was an ass leaving Sheryl, with Ranka in episode 11 you can kinda see that he may have called and couldn't get through so he sent Michael. 12 he has no excuse since Sheryl was right their. Hopefully Sheryl Misa slaps him.
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2008-06-30, 04:55 | Link #314 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Orange County
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Sheryl will definitely feel guilty about what happened to Alto since she was the one who talked him into it. And just like Westlo(was it?) said, Michele will get a good look of the relationship from Sheryl's view in the next episode. |
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2008-06-30, 05:10 | Link #315 |
Michiko Malandro = Sexy
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bryan/College Station, Texas USA
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Why are you guys viewing Sheryl and Alto as a couple who is in love with each other and would rather not live if the other one does not? I don't understand this mentality. If anything they are "interested" in each other, Sheryl more for Alto than vice versa. So if a girl you just met a few weeks ago and you decided you liked her was sick in bed you would drop your entire life and responsibilities to stay by her bed? Lets look at the larger picture once in a while.
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2008-06-30, 05:50 | Link #316 |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
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Who's acting like they are a couple? If he can't even say goodbye to someone who he escorted and is friends with than he's an ass period. The same person who desperately wanted to give him his present, the scene which moved him enough he tried to sneak out and grab his vf-25 so he could do something. Likewise he's an ass if he didn't even try to call Ranka in 11 and just sent Michael, but not enough evidence there... and I doubt we will ever know if he tried to call her. Michael/Sheryl scenes (whys Michael always gotta do Alto's dirty work ) next week otoh will let us know if Alto said goodbye or not.
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2008-06-30, 06:03 | Link #317 | |||
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2008-06-30, 06:08 | Link #318 |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
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What does Michael seeing that Sheryl is actually serious got anything to do with betraying Ranka? You've read the spoilers, you know the general outline for what happens, you know what her condition is in 15, add them together and if he can't see that she's serious he's as clueless as he thinks Alto is.
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2008-06-30, 06:21 | Link #319 | |
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