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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 138 | 42.07% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 61 | 18.60% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 52 | 15.85% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 29 | 8.84% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 18 | 5.49% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 8 | 2.44% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 3 | 0.91% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 3 | 0.91% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 0.61% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 14 | 4.27% | |
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2008-06-30, 22:30 | Link #841 | |
Knowledge is the solution
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[/snarky] Though I'd accept that lying even to the audience would be quite the underhanded trick from the writers
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2008-06-30, 22:30 | Link #842 | |
Old to the New
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The lurker goes to lurking once more...
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2008-06-30, 22:33 | Link #843 | |
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Ah Shirlly... it really must suck to be her... she gets mindf*cked in every which way; first by the turth that the man she loves is responsible for her father's death; then having he mind erased for her own girl only to find a note that told her the truth again; then having her mind rewritten to cancel THAT out aswell; and now having the geass on her cancelled putting her back to the way she was when this all began but know with the knoweldge that her mind has been messed up with... the girl really can't catch a break can she...
Grant it, part of me is kind of glad with that turn of events... as one of the things that really annoyed me was, at the begining of season 2 when we found out that everyone in the acedemy had their memories altered, i couldn't help but ask; "what the hell was the point of the girl finding that note and regaining the knowledge she lost"... And now we know it was to add to how messed up she would be after having her geass cancelled... Though one thing i do kinda wonder... now that the geass has been cancelled, does that mean lelouche can geass her again? i'm quick to assume, yes he could... though he'd have to realize that first. (i'm praying we don't get a repeat of what happened with Euphemia... as in he talks to her without his contact lens unknowingly geassing her into a killer) As for Cornelia, she WILL need to confront her father eventually... her goal is to clear Euphemia's name by exposing the geass, and that will mean confronting her father since he's the man behind the Geass. not to mention she will be pretty pissed knowing that her father could have cleared Euphemia's name at any time... i doubt cooperation between her and Lelouche though... She's got too much contempt for him to work with him... However, they probably will end up moving against their father at about the same time out of sheer chance(plot). Though i do question what Lelouche would do if he were to find out she plans to clear Euphemia's good name... the quick answer is to kill her as clearing Euphemia would mean exposing what he did; She would either destroy his name, or destroy Zero's name... If this happens before he destroys britiania, then this will horribly ruin his plans... if it happens after, it ruins his hopes of returning to normal life after all of this is over (depending on if she exposing that Lelouche is Zero; or if the world finds out on it's own that Lelouche is Zero)... but i think it may be quick to say he would kill her... after all, he has been changing for the better and he does severely regret what he did to Euphemia; he may actually sympathize with Cornelia's goal This kinda makes me wonder why Suzaku doesn't share the same ideal as clearing Euphemia's name... he cares about making Zero face justice, but i don't think he has shown much for clearing the girl's name like Cornelia does. Ofcourse, the only way to do that would be for him to go against Britiania's emperor as he would need to expose the geass, and that might complicate his plans of changing Britiania for the better form within... just a little conflicting priorities... Quote:
Considering Euphemia's purity and personality, the knowledge that she killed hundreds of innocent japanese with her own hands is a fate worse than death. Even if she knew she was not in control, was not responsible, it was all the geass's fault, AND the world knew it wasn't her fault, it would have done NOTHING to ease her soul. Something like that could have driven her into depression and madness... Cornelia knows Euphemia and would have quite a bit of trouble arguing against the action when question "what would she have done"... she'd probably be rendered speechless since she understands what Euphemia would have gone through and would have no real answer of her own, but at the same time could never agree with killing her. Lelouche didn't have to kill her, but there was really no way to save her from knowing what she did... the only thing i can think of is basically forcing her into a bubble life; secluded from the rest of the world where she could NEVER hear news from the outside and thus never be told of what she did in japan... Basically an imprisoned life... better than death, but not by much depending on who you ask. The harder part is convincing how he accidently turned Euphemia into a killing machine... best way would be trying to to tell her how he loss control of the geass and drove her insane... it would be a hard story to swallow... one supporting factor would be if Cornelia's research into the geass included finding out that the geass users do indeed loose control of their geass over time; that would help lend support to Lerouche's story Ain't perfect, and may not work, but it's the best chance Lelouche got |
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2008-06-30, 23:02 | Link #844 | |||
The Dark Knight
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
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The emperor simply told Suzaku that he's the only Rounds member that is aware of geass and so far that seems to be the case with the exception of Knight of One. Quote:
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2008-06-30, 23:23 | Link #845 |
Golden Justice
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Location: Quebec, Canada
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This may be a little bit out of topic, but it struck me as soon as I saw the scene and I wonder if anyone else made the same link that I did.
Direct Link. They look reaaally similar there, just thought I had to show the comparison because I think there are people who speculate about them being allies in the future (I think it may be true)
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2008-06-30, 23:29 | Link #846 | |
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2008-07-01, 01:03 | Link #849 | |
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2008-07-01, 01:04 | Link #850 |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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As far as we know he was the first or at least one of the first to have a geass in this era. He also had them conducting expiraments about C.C. Don't forget the big glowing room that has something to do with V.V. and C.C. and the geass. Also, I think it was mentioned in the first scene that Britaninia had been searching for all of the ruins which has something to do with Geass. Lelouch, is just getting into the Geass business. ALl of the answers lie with V.V. and the Charles
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2008-07-01, 01:07 | Link #851 | |
The Dark Knight
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This is in regards to the contract that Charles made with VV just like it is with Lelouch and CC. CC will help Lelouch but in the end he'll have to fulfill his part of the deal just as Charles is doing now. VV is the leader of the cult who runs all the geass stuff, he's the man behind all of this. |
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2008-07-01, 01:16 | Link #852 |
Observer/Bookman wannabe
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I think that C.C. and V.V. are their own sides. But, there may be a higher power above them, who created them, and expected them to be under control (which wasn't the case obviously).
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2008-07-01, 02:02 | Link #856 | |||
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for what purpose? to clear Euphemia's good name. As it stands history will go on record that Euphemia used a false hopes and promises in order to trap the japanese and then commit genocide against them, even going so far as to killing them with her own hands. Her name will be cursed around the world for centuries... this is why cornelia's main goal has been to correct history and reveal the truth Quote:
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There were several possible outcomes... Peace in ignorance, knowledge of what she did followed by suffering and death, or knowledge of what she did a long life of internal suffering... for Euphemia to choose for her self would require her to have knowledge of what she did which was certain to result in her suffering greatly; the only question is whether she kills herself out of grief, or keeps living WHILE suffering (falling into madness is very possible)... making certain she NEVER found out what she did (which renders her unable to determine what her own fate) truly was the ONLY way to make sure she did not have to suffer what to her, would have been a fate worse than death... When it comes down to it, Lelouche didn't kill Euphemia when he shot her, he killed her the moment she shot that first japanese under the influence of the geass... her life was completely over after that moment... keeping her ignorant of what she did, and ending her life was probably the one of the most merciful things to do... the other being keeping her alive and ignorant in a bubble where she could never hear news of the world (depending on how much freedom you could give her and depending on who you ask)... and again, there's no way to keep her ignorant AND give her these kind of choices |
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2008-07-01, 02:05 | Link #857 | |
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To keep Euphie alive after the incident, I believe you'll have to paralyse her and lock her in a cell. Otherwise, she'll find the first opportunity to kill herself.
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2008-07-01, 02:37 | Link #858 | |
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2008-07-01, 02:49 | Link #859 | |
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Man, that is such a Rape the Dog scenario, it's really disgusting.
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2008-07-01, 03:24 | Link #860 | ||
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