2008-07-17, 16:49 | Link #601 | |
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The connection isn't entirely that clear at first glance due to how convoluted it may all seem, which is why the last re-release of Chrono Trigger includes scenes that refer to future events in Chrono Cross (e.g., Lucca finding Kidd—who is actually a part of Schala—and adopting her). |
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2008-07-17, 19:41 | Link #603 | ||
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Really bad character designs and character themselves It was a great RPG though I'll give them that, a lot of variety and fun boss battles too! Your Nomura hate is about as cool and edgy as hating chrono cross because it's the cool thing to do |
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2008-07-17, 22:24 | Link #604 | ||
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"Cool gamers" hate Nomura and everything SE-related (including FFXII) just for the sake of it. I give my reasons--and I also give them a chance. I feel FFXIII has potential--at last, there's a female lead since FFVI. But I don't have high hopes for Versus XIII and the intention of making a whole new FFVII-esque deal out of the Fabula Nova Cristallis or whatever its name is. Quote:
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2008-07-17, 22:54 | Link #605 |
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Well shit
I had a sort of reply going there, but it seems my browser crashed and took my words along with it. Sigh Tell you the truth I am a bit tired so I'll be heading out of this thread for now, I'll just say this, FF is a very big franchise, a lot of the time they're just supplying what they can to the demanding fans, don't be so angry at S-E/Nomura.They're a business after all. |
2008-07-17, 23:02 | Link #606 | ||
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2008-07-17, 23:11 | Link #607 | ||
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OTOH, Kingdom Hearts and Versus XIII are directly his doing. Quote:
Personally, I'm no fan of Nomura's work. However, he's unfairly scapegoated as much as he's worshiped. |
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2008-07-18, 04:09 | Link #608 |
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Some people blame Nomura, others blame Kitase... for FFXIII no longer being exclusive to the PS3 (being ported over to the XBOX 360).
Here's a video dedicated to "Sony Fanboys" and Gundam SEED fans as well : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhdI-WL-02M |
2008-07-18, 12:16 | Link #609 | ||||
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FFXIII needs an epic story with a twist of romance and I'm happy I don't even care what they do to the rest of the game. Making the gameplay fast paced is nice touch though( ala FFX-2). |
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2008-07-18, 13:49 | Link #610 | |
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2008-07-18, 15:15 | Link #611 | |||
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Of course, rabid fans just want more of the same, so no one managed to enjoy it for what it wanted to do. And SE screwed it up even more by axing Matsuno during planning stage. Quote:
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2008-07-18, 16:06 | Link #612 | |||
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For the vastness could be enjoyed if I didn't get attacked every step I took. Didn't help the battles where slow as hell too(I admit it was normal paced for rpg standards). Exploration adds to the experience in a RPG if you ask me, but doesn't define it. Exploration is better suited to games like Zelda, Okami and Shadow of the Collosus. Where you don't get frusted out of your mind when you explore the world. I don't really get what you mean by npc diolog and non linearity. It was still pretty basic. Persona 3 shows some real non-linearity(the main story is still pretty linear though, I disliked this game btw ) and makes the side quests/stories interesting. The side quests in FFXII you just did it for the sake of doing a side quest or aquiring an item. Quote:
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Here I was thinking they where loved to death...Oh w8 a sec I finally get what you mean Squaresoft made FFX and SE FFXII, so FFXII is bad since it wasn't made by SS. So people are hatin on the merger? Haha, meh what can I say. SE did bring out KHII and DQ8, those where good no? xD |
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2008-07-18, 16:42 | Link #615 |
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It's just like Star Ocean 4, and Infinite Undiscovery. Everyone says its made by Square but they're not they're published by Square ( basically like Square is getting paied to put there names on it). Though Square does actually own the Dragon Quest series(an Enix IP) they just got Level 5 to make it for them and published the game when it was finished.
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2008-07-18, 16:48 | Link #616 |
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As a veteran player of pen & paper RPG like dungeons & dragons, I will say that cRPG will never offer the same degree of freedom and customization as a P&PRPG will do. The best a cRPG can hope to offer is an "illusion" of freedom, offer alternative ways to get around obstacles and subtle ways to get back to the main story, should the player derail. This is where the Fallout series, Elder Scrolls or Deus EX has succeded.
I am a SE hater because they have money and power to lead the RPG genre where the fuck they want, and as I see what they are doing now, they are killing what RPG stood for when Gary Gygax has written Dungeons & Dragons. |
2008-07-18, 17:27 | Link #617 |
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Heh They can rape, strangle, stomp on whatever it was that RPG stood for when Gary Gaygax wrote D&D.They can offer me however shallow or deep an illusion of freedom as they please.
As long as they bring me something mildly entertaining(i.e not made by bethesda) I don't care how linear a game is, whatever entertains me, challenges me, and makes me laugh I'll play. Thankfully it seems they understand. Ah yes it's a little hard not to sometimes, porn is the sole inspiration for a lot of my ramblings. |
2008-07-18, 17:29 | Link #618 | ||
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If people are too idiotic to understand what a true RPG means, then they should stay that way.
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2008-07-18, 18:03 | Link #619 | |
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Hoo those be pretty harsh words Knightty boy.You seem like a very dedicated person
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Let me ask you something, do you think that people who prefer I guess Illusionary, fake rpgs like the final fantasy games are idiots? don't have good tastes? infidels? |
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2008-07-18, 18:14 | Link #620 | ||
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Also, don't drop me together with Alex Kierkegaard, the guy whose article I quoted. He's got a very extreme view about video games, philosophy and life itself, much of which I don't share... but he's not an idiot. He's intelligent and makes very good points. For example, when it comes to explaining the reasons why JRPGs came to be, which is the only reason why I quoted that article. Perhaps I should've put a disclaimer before doing so. But seriously, more people need to read his articles, if only to have their views challenged (and thus, through this challenge, strengthen them).
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