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Rising Dragon · 2008-07-19, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Ronin Aquila

Just wondering.

Does the female version of "that" fluid leave permanant stains like the male version?

Cos if it does, the Student Council WILL find out what Nina did to Table-Kun one day!!

This... isn't really the place to discuss this, you know.

Ronin Aquila · 2008-07-19, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

This... isn't really the place to discuss this, you know.

Yeah, but we do a LOT worse in the Hate Posts (for characters like Rolo and Suzy-Boy) in this forum, involving nailing the soap in the jail showers to the floor so Suzy get love every evening.

Tokkan · 2008-07-19, 22:37

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Originally Posted by She-Chan

not only this, they changed alot others, that's why I hate dubbing.

... I see nothing wrong with changing a few lines to sound more natural in English. There's a lot of Japanese phrases that make no sense or don't carry as much power when said in English.

Aquaman OS · 2008-07-19, 22:39

And "protect" is one of said phrases. Along with "unforgivable".

darkchibi07 · 2008-07-19, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Tokkan

... I see nothing wrong with changing a few lines to sound more natural in English. There's a lot of Japanese phrases that make no sense or don't carry as much power when said in English.

Here, here! Having the English VAs acting out lines are direct translations of the Japanese only leads to some pretty awkward readings and weird inflections. There's a reason ADR scripts exists.

Rising Dragon · 2008-07-19, 23:46

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Originally Posted by darkchibi07

Here, here! Having the English VAs acting out lines are direct translations of the Japanese only leads to some pretty awkward readings and weird inflections. There's a reason ADR scripts exists.

Yeah, we don't want another case of CATZ, you know?

Silver Soul · 2008-07-19, 23:56

Fans are just pissed because Rebecca didn't say desu while playing Nunnally

She-Chan · 2008-07-20, 11:55

That's not a reason for the fans to get pissed + in dubing there is no need for japanese words like desu.

rpgman1 · 2008-07-20, 12:42

The dubbing isn't that bad though. Sure, it sounds over-the-top like other anime which is hard to reproduce from the original Japanese dialogue. There is a parallel with Shirley from ep.13 1st season and ep.13 2nd season. What was Nina doing to that table?!

youngde · 2008-07-20, 13:29

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Originally Posted by rpgman1

The dubbing isn't that bad though. Sure, it sounds over-the-top like other anime which is hard to reproduce from the original Japanese dialogue. There is a parallel with Shirley from ep.13 1st season and ep.13 2nd season. What was Nina doing to that table?!

Sorry to say man, but if you need to ask what Nina was doing with that table, you might need to have a little talk with your parents rather than learning it out here on the streets.

Aquaman OS · 2008-07-20, 13:50

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Originally Posted by She-Chan

That's not a reason for the fans to get pissed + in dubing there is no need for japanese words like desu.

Which is why Japanese is the most superior language in the world! Even though the fans aren't really paying attention to the words aside from the handful of words they do know (and can't pronounce anyway) and only read the subtitles but hey its Japanese. English sucks etc. lets all move to Japan and eat pocky and watch anime all day. Cause thats what they do you know.

It's the like people who hate the Naruto dub because Naruto sounds annoying. Clearly they weren't actually paying attention to his Japanese voice at all.

She-Chan · 2008-07-20, 14:51

but still I could find that the japanese VAs are matching with the characters more than the american VAs.

Aquaman OS · 2008-07-20, 15:01

I rarely see that these days. Most fan problems stem from the VA's not sounding like the original VA's. Example Kate Higgins does fit C.C. she just doesn't sound like Yukana. Which is fine. Her job is to voice C.C. not channel Yukana.

I find the characters voices the fans seem to really like are the ones that do sound like the originals (Jeremiah, Cornelia etc)

She-Chan · 2008-07-20, 15:14

It depends, I like Kate Higgins because her voice fits C.C. and her voice doesn't look to adult on C.C. but I don't like Deborah Sale Butler as Cecile.
In American VAs you can feel as if they are acting unlike the japanese VAs that's the problem.

Aquaman OS · 2008-07-20, 16:20

Actually the Japanese VAs do sound like they are acting. It just doesn't sound that way to someone who doesn't converse in Japanese often. Nobody in Japan talks like anime people do in real life. It's not supposed to sound natural at all.

She-Chan · 2008-07-21, 04:25

but not all the anime fans japanese or even know how to speak japanese.

Mr.Mo · 2008-07-21, 12:32

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Originally Posted by She-Chan

but not all the anime fans japanese or even know how to speak japanese.

isn't that besides the point >.<

She-Chan · 2008-07-21, 12:52

I know but........

rpgman1 · 2008-07-23, 20:52

There are only 2 VAs in the entire industry that know Japanese. One is Janice Kawaye, an actual Japanese woman, but she has only a few roles. The other is Yuri Lowenthal, who is actually fluent in Japanese and he has plenty of roles. His wife Tara Platt probably does know some Japanese but not at Yuri's level. He honestly said he prefer the Japanese version. I would love it if he did ADR scriptwriting, but it wouldn't make sense since we don't know common Japanese phrases (it worked somewhat for MoHS and LS). Code Geass is supposed to appeal to anime fans and casual viewers since it's on AS Saturday night (Sunday morning).

Yu Ominae · 2008-07-24, 06:06

Samantha Inoue-Harte was raised in Japan for most of her life next to Italy and the Philippines, so she's pretty fluent in Japanese.

2008-07-24, 06:06	Link #440
Yu Ominae ARCAM Spriggan agent Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada/Quezon City, Philippines	Samantha Inoue-Harte was raised in Japan for most of her life next to Italy and the Philippines, so she's pretty fluent in Japanese. __________________ Even if we were at odds with each other, I still thank you for training me, Instructor Bowman - Yu Ominae, reflecting on Bowman's death after killing him in Phantom Island

2008-07-19, 22:39	Link #424
Aquaman OS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	And "protect" is one of said phrases. Along with "unforgivable".

2008-07-19, 23:56	Link #427
Silver Soul Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edo Japan	Fans are just pissed because Rebecca didn't say desu while playing Nunnally

2008-07-20, 11:55	Link #428
She-Chan Anime no Tono Graphic Designer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England Age: 31	That's not a reason for the fans to get pissed + in dubing there is no need for japanese words like desu.

2008-07-20, 12:42	Link #429
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	The dubbing isn't that bad though. Sure, it sounds over-the-top like other anime which is hard to reproduce from the original Japanese dialogue. There is a parallel with Shirley from ep.13 1st season and ep.13 2nd season. What was Nina doing to that table?!

2008-07-20, 14:51	Link #432
She-Chan Anime no Tono Graphic Designer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England Age: 31	but still I could find that the japanese VAs are matching with the characters more than the american VAs.

2008-07-20, 15:01	Link #433
Aquaman OS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	I rarely see that these days. Most fan problems stem from the VA's not sounding like the original VA's. Example Kate Higgins does fit C.C. she just doesn't sound like Yukana. Which is fine. Her job is to voice C.C. not channel Yukana. I find the characters voices the fans seem to really like are the ones that do sound like the originals (Jeremiah, Cornelia etc)

2008-07-20, 15:14	Link #434
She-Chan Anime no Tono Graphic Designer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England Age: 31	It depends, I like Kate Higgins because her voice fits C.C. and her voice doesn't look to adult on C.C. but I don't like Deborah Sale Butler as Cecile. In American VAs you can feel as if they are acting unlike the japanese VAs that's the problem.

2008-07-20, 16:20	Link #435
Aquaman OS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Actually the Japanese VAs do sound like they are acting. It just doesn't sound that way to someone who doesn't converse in Japanese often. Nobody in Japan talks like anime people do in real life. It's not supposed to sound natural at all.

2008-07-21, 04:25	Link #436
She-Chan Anime no Tono Graphic Designer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England Age: 31	but not all the anime fans japanese or even know how to speak japanese.

2008-07-21, 12:52	Link #438
She-Chan Anime no Tono Graphic Designer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England Age: 31	I know but........

2008-07-23, 20:52	Link #439
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	There are only 2 VAs in the entire industry that know Japanese. One is Janice Kawaye, an actual Japanese woman, but she has only a few roles. The other is Yuri Lowenthal, who is actually fluent in Japanese and he has plenty of roles. His wife Tara Platt probably does know some Japanese but not at Yuri's level. He honestly said he prefer the Japanese version. I would love it if he did ADR scriptwriting, but it wouldn't make sense since we don't know common Japanese phrases (it worked somewhat for MoHS and LS). Code Geass is supposed to appeal to anime fans and casual viewers since it's on AS Saturday night (Sunday morning).