(L) D.Gray-man (Season 2)

[yezhanquan]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I was under the impression that he had used his new Ark for that job?

I don't think so, since....

Spoiler for details:

Lulubell's objective is to retrieve the Akuma plant, the Egg, although later on, there seemed to be a retcon on the situation.

[Calth]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I was under the impression that he had used his new Ark for that job?

(The gate looks different after all)

Correct, and it's at least kinda implied from how I remember the Ark works that Lulubell had to sneak into HQ in order to open the gate to the new Ark, they couldnt just pop in from the outside anytime they wanted.

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

I don't think so, since....

Spoiler for details:

Lulubell's objective is to retrieve the Akuma plant, the Egg, although later on, there seemed to be a retcon on the situation.

Spoiler for response:

The egg is moved out of the Order ark in both manga and anime, so not sure what your point is here

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

I don't think so, since....

Spoiler for details:

Lulubell's objective is to retrieve the Akuma plant, the Egg, although later on, there seemed to be a retcon on the situation.

What? Wait wait, that's not it.

Spoiler:

She had TWO objectives.

One was the egg, the other was the Skulls.

[yezhanquan]

Spoiler for Skulls:

Not exactly. Invoking the manga, and my theory that there was a retcon.

Later on, the Earl actually mentioned that he didn't mind the loss of either the Ark or the Egg. He claimed to have created more Skulls to work on the repairs of the Egg. This really made me question why he got so worked up when the Ark and Egg was "stolen" earlier on.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Okay okay, stop right there, anymore would be too much information for here.

We'll move this to the manga thread.

[yezhanquan]

Anyway, kudos to the anime crew for the swimming pool in the omake. It is really funny.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Yeah, that's my only concern if the end of the season should come about.

Well, I guess it's up to the fans...

Well it really is up to how each fan feels about it. Will they go right into the manga or just wait however long it takes for a new season to come out? I could likely put up with the wait long as I'm sure that a new season will come eventually.

Originally Posted by Calth

Correct, and it's at least kinda implied from how I remember the Ark works that Lulubell had to sneak into HQ in order to open the gate to the new Ark, they couldnt just pop in from the outside anytime they wanted

Well that would make sense. Since if he could just pop inside at any time this would have been settled long ago. Still tough to defend against Lulubell and her changing shapes. At any rate they are inside now and its going to be incredibly difficult to get them back out again.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Well it really is up to how each fan feels about it. Will they go right into the manga or just wait however long it takes for a new season to come out? I could likely put up with the wait long as I'm sure that a new season will come eventually.

I've been wanting to catch up with the manga for months now, so the stop will give me the final push that i need to do so.

[FullMetalKid]

The anime has gotten close to catching up to the manga. For the most part i'm satisfied as it remains pretty true to the manga.

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I just hope it doesn't end soon there is still too many unanswered questions.

[ffantasy24]

Originally Posted by SkoolRumble4Ya

This omake was kind of creepy seeing that Hitler guy popping up lol.

agrees
despite his attempt at trying to sound cute with the "yay" it just made the whole thing feel even creepier *shivers*
Same thing with the cake
Scary-hitler-looking guys should not try act cute, AT ALL.

[Guido]

Right now my current job doesn't allow me much free time, even if it's a tiny bit, to surf the net and be in communication with the forum.

Thursdays and Fridays are the only days when I can spare enough time to discuss and comment in the threads.

On-Topic

There was too much information going on in this episodes, that I cannot process it simultaneously on my head, hence, I'll be discussing it detail-by-detail.

First, I'm surprised that the writers and animators were able to fit two manga episodes (chapters 137 and 138) into the running time of this single anime episode, as faithfully adapting the material with very few additions.

Spoiler for Central:

The organization that runs the Order from above is owned by a bunch of sleazy bureaucrats and narrow-minded clergy from the days of the Inquisition.

They were fishy the moment that Rouvellier did not deny that they knew about the Egg and the Ark all along.

They knew that the Noah clan is composed of 13 members in total; the 14th Noah's betrayal and death; and the will the 14th left Marian, the old man discussed, and presumably to Allen.

Well, it should be obvious that the old man, which Central is protecting, confessed most of the information he got relayed from the 14th himself.

Spoiler for the Noah Family:

As Link was explaining about the family to Allen, I'd recognized the shadows belonging to Tykki, Road, Jas&Devi, Lulubell, and I think I saw Skinn's as well.

However, I identified three or four other shadows belonging to different Noah's that have yet to appear in the storyline, leaving aside the 14th's shadow.

This is a foreshadowing that more and new Noahs are about to come into the storyline, which is great!

Spoiler for Lenalees' interactions with Rouvellier:

From Lenalee's current memory and her previous ones shown sparsely throughout the series, the Order is definitely not corrupt-free.

- We already know that the Order forcefully takes individuals, identified as potential conformers with the Innocence, once they are discovered.

- Some if not most of those individuals have experienced severe instances of trauma, desolation, and depression while being locked inside the Order. As was Lenalee's case.

- Order experimented on non-conformers, in order to create brand-new Exorcists, but those experiments failed in the form of Togaochi.

- Central agents, such as Rouvellier, have inflicted a deep trauma upon certain conformers, as they are conditioned for battle against akuma, in order to meet their standards.

Several people in the thread were disappointed that Rouvellier did not sound or look menacing upon his introduction in the previous episode.

Well, he did sound highly menacing to me in Lenalee's flashback uttering that low and raspy voice to her.

Spoiler for Changes made in the anime:

1. The anime left out completely the topic about Allen's rescue of Suman when several of the staff were engaging in rumours at the cafeteria.

2. The most drastic change happened towards the end:
Johnny's in high spirits doing his job. He goes to Bak, Reneé, and Andrew not to interfere with work. Andrew goes threatening eyes, as Johnny gets speared on the front. Then Lulubell reasumes her true form upon the astonished looks of Bak and Reneé.

In the manga, Johnny was still frustrated by everyones' rumours about Allen from before. He unknowingly got speared from behind. Then, the rest occured as in the anime.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Guido

The anime left out completely the topic about Allen's rescue of Suman when several of the staff were engaging in rumours at the cafeteria.

Funny really, 'cause after Johnny started to shout out, i was waiting for the Suman incident to be mentioned. Though they've gotta be careful with what they do and don't add --- not enough time in one episode.

[Traece]

Actually I was expecting him to mention Suman too, but apparently he's been branded as a traitor as well for yet more stupid Order reasons.

Anyone else shake their head at the repetition of the phrase, "orders from the Orders?"

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Traece

Actually I was expecting him to mention Suman too, but apparently he's been branded as a traitor as well for yet more stupid Order reasons.

More stupid Order reason?

Suman sold out his comrades by giving their position to the Tykki. Six Exorcists died along with over a hundred Finders.

[yezhanquan]

Like I said, old "Hitler" himself had a past.

The Suman issue is a non-issue to me. He gave info to Tyki, and he was judged by his Innocence. It's just that.

[Guido]

Since the anime has gotten that far into the storyline, the Suman case is closed and buried.

For now what's been the center of attention is Lulubell's invasion of the Order via the Black Ark.

Never feel to trust about a weapon that's been on enemys' hands for thousands of years ago.

[Calth]

Originally Posted by Guido

Since the anime has gotten that far into the storyline, the Suman case is closed and buried.

For now what's been the center of attention is Lulubell's invasion of the Order via the Black Ark.

Never feel to trust about a weapon that's been on enemys' hands for thousands of years ago.

As I said earlier, the invasion comes from the Earl's Ark, not the Order's Ark, which is why Lulubell had to sneak into the Orders' HQ to open the gate. The Order's Ark is completely safe and under their control.

[Ultenth]

Originally Posted by Calth

As I said earlier, the invasion comes from the Earl's Ark, not the Order's Ark, which is why Lulubell had to sneak into the Orders' HQ to open the gate. The Order's Ark is completely safe and under their control.

Correct, Lulubell seems to have used the Earls incomplete but still fully operational Death Star....errr I mean Ark, and they are invading the order HQ in order to gain access to the Egg so they can complete the download for the new ark.

[Fynal_Fyre]

Whatever the Earl has left of the incomplete ark is still capable of accessing the Order's ark, albeit only as a gateway.