2008-08-26, 18:19 | Link #681 |
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thank you for your reply james0246.
your anwsers are like the things i thought. but there is one thing so the WG are equal with the yonkou togetter while yonkou see each other as an enemy? if that's right then the WG could take out a single yonkou at a war. but then the WG should have some loses in power what will set other yonkou on the move. while writing this i came up with one other question. what is left for the yonkou to do? making money? expand their crew? searching for OP? a combo of those possibilities? |
2008-08-26, 18:24 | Link #682 |
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Actually the shichibukai are one of the world powers.
So its not: Yonkou=WG Its: Marines=Shichibukai=Yonkou. Otherwise known as the three balancing powers, which for some reason doesn't include the revolutionaries. (Poor Dragon)
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2008-08-26, 18:30 | Link #683 | ||
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While I fully admit that this is how Oda originally presented the three groups, recent circumastances call this balance into question. But, since this is a Q & A Thread, I will agree that the information should be presented and I overstepped myself by voicing an opinion rather than a fact. |
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2008-08-28, 12:28 | Link #687 |
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In the Sky Island Arc, there's like no-one on any of the translation teams who figured this out: The Guy Who was Called Priest Oumu Is really Priest OHM. I mean...it's really obvious, but none of the manga translators seemed to get it...
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2008-08-28, 12:43 | Link #688 | ||
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sjaako, The reason why there is uch a huge difference, is because of the Marine admirals' and the Shichibukai's inability to exhibit such powerful Haki, or Spirit Power as the Yonkou. The known Yonkou so far both have the to ability to immediately dismiss anyone without an relatively equal amount of strength of will at a glance. Both Whitebeard and Shanks. Whitebeard has not used his Haki in a direct combat situation so far, but it is assumed that he and his fleet commdanders have awesome Haki, since they didn't pass out form Shanks' Burst of Spirit which was so powerful, that without lifting a finger, he was able to knock out more than half of Whitebeards crewmen, and cause PHYSICAL damage/ to Whitebeards' ship. Neither Shichibukai nor Admirals can do this... It is theorised that Sengoku, whom Whitebeard says, 'knew how the sea was in the old days of Gol D. Roger' would have some knowledge, and mastery of this power...possibly... Because think about it: How powerful could Sengoku Really be? How could he be more powerful than Kizaru, Aokiji, and Akainu at the same time? It's pretty like that he's a Logia user, yes, but ...Is that really enough? I believe he has a powerful Haki...And that he could own all three admirals with his eyes closed... Why don't the admirals have powerful Haki, too, then? ...I dunno... But it seems that powerful Haki is something one attains from a strong, vital spirit, and from constantly putting ones' life on the line, fighting with all of ones' spirit... And admirals just laze around Headquarters twiddling their thumbs...so... But probably someone like Smoker would be like to develop strong Haki in future... So I believe the correct explanation is: The Huge gap is in the fact that most people, when brought before Whitebeard or Shanks would be gone in an instant... To much sheer strength of will to handle...
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2008-08-28, 14:42 | Link #689 | |
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im comparring some views about shichibukai, yonkou etc.. with my own. those who really think it through always say something i didnt thought about. i agree that haki is awesome but i dont think haki itself is usefull in a battle with tough guys. i think if you have haki, your power has reached a high level. when you reach a certain point of power, watching your own limit, you can use haki. so i dont think haki is really that powerfull as a weapon. |
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2008-08-31, 15:49 | Link #692 |
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Oda mentioned that none of the characters he creates ever dies in the One Piece story even though it may seem like it. i.e. Bellamy and Spandam. What's the deal with letting such characters survive and others get to die? (i.e. Bellemere, Banchina, Tom, etc,)
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2008-09-04, 20:00 | Link #694 |
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The rule is "nobody dies in one piece present".
But since you an get thrown out of the story (Arlong, Krieg, Enel, Crocodile etc.) and even mistirously revived side characters (Peruh) don't play a big role anymore that's not grave on my watch. |
2008-09-08, 21:12 | Link #697 | |
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Oh and as proved by Shanks, Haki doesn't affect strong people. So even if the Shichibukai knew Haki they would still have been wasted if not for Blackbeard. |
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2008-09-17, 04:12 | Link #698 | |
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it is actually more like Yonkou = Shichibukai + Admirals and if you look carefully it wither it is admirals or marine it is not WG, which mean the amry forces and other military unit like CP9 under WG is not included in these equation. and in my opinion the Yonkou also include the other pirates that work under them. the other thing, Haki doesn't effect strong people mean it doesn't knock them out, but i doesn't mean it can't effect them.... in Shanks case he release his haki while walking toward WB ship to protect himself from the weakling trying to attack him and as defensive measure, he never send his Haki or tried attacking one of WB commanders with it.... which doesn't prove it can't knock them out, it only means that shanks didn't release strong haki to knock them up... it is like he want to protect him self but at the time he doesn't want to decalre war against WB. |
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