prevention of illegal threads

[boneyjellyfish]

Why don't we merge all of the ideas into one enormous er... illegal thread prevention idea lovefest? For example:

Newbie (or as I like to call them, n00bles) takes the test. If newbie passes, newbie gets all of the rights and priveleges of a regular animesuki member (a.k.a. "veteran"). However, if the newbie fails, then s/he is unallowed to create new threads until s/he reaches 25 posts (I really think 50 is a bit excessive).

This could be put a step further, though. Let's introduce some sort of a warning system to the forum. Allow all people to be warned, but only allow "veterans" to do submit warnings. I'm not sure how to check whether or not someone is a veteran... maybe if they have above 20 reputation points? I don't know, I'm just throwing out crazy idea after crazy idea here.

There are many methods available to prevent these illegal threads, but many of them are very moderator-unfriendly. For instance, some sort of screening process in which new applicants to the forum have to explain what the rules mean to them would be probably the most effective way of eliminating "n00bles", but it would be extremely taxing on the moderators because they would have to read dozens of these things every day.

Also, I doubt that these "veterans" you guys are speaking of would really go to such lengths to create an illegal thread. If they do, fine. Let's give them a permanent ban and get it over with, they should know better by now. Don't forget to give me a perma-ban too, I'm just a rotten troublemaker. Yeah, yeah. I can see you grinning a mile away.

Another way of keeping out the rabble is by privatising the board so one can only get in by reference, but that would probably kill the board. Another method of discouraging people to post is to make their default avatar and signature for their first 10 posts something REALLY embarassing. I mean really, really, REALLY embarassing. Make it dependant on whichever forum they post in first, too. For instance, if they post in the Naruto forum first, make their default avatar and signatures be images of yaoi fanart. If they go into DVD & Licensed, have them be images of, oh I don't know, Kai Doh Maru or Virus Buster Serge. Fansub forum can be Cosmopolitan Prayers, Suggestions can be Ebichu, etc. Make it so that if they're REALLY serious about joining, they'll be willing to be humiliated for the sake of joining our amazing forum. By the way, have I even mentioned that GHDPro is the greatest person who ever lived?!

An even better idea: ignore the ramblings of a lunatic and forget you ever read anything I just said. It's good for your health.

[JAppi]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the odd locked thread here and there. It's hardly a perfect world. Why do we worry about these things? Some of my favourite posters started out making bizzare threads that made no sense. *winks at Gwavie*

[Shii]

I think we should just ban everyone and get it over with.

[babbito2k]

I don't like to see "illegal" threads but I don't think creating barriers to posting or starting threads is a good idea. It sounds like a lot of work, for one thing. For another, it's unusual in that other forums in my experience do not do that sort of thing. And I don't see the harm in illegal threads being open for up to an hour or so until a moderator takes care of it.

[Lexander]

whatever123 is a resident of the Naruto forum just like me ... and there is no better location to hand out some Darwin awards other than the Naruto forum. If there is a way to have this apply only to the Naruto discussion forum ... that'd be great.

[hobobaggins]

Originally Posted by JAppi

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the odd locked thread here and there.

we dont either. 1/3 of the threads in the naruto forum are closed cuz people break the rules.

[ ] Fansubs
[ ] Where to download warez
[ ] When episode 371 of "Nadzuto" is gonna be released by fansub group X
[ ] Who is the mangaka for "Hidori no Mibi", and what else has he made
[ ] Where to get anime/game OSTs (Original Sound Track)

dont forget to take out ambiguous questions though. it is fine to BUY anime/game osts.

you need to make that a little more clear.

[AG3]

Originally Posted by hobobaggins

dont forget to take out ambiguous questions though. it is fine to BUY anime/game osts.

you need to make that a little more clear.

Actually, no. The point is that it is ok to ask about OSTs, like "how many songs are there on this OST", "is this OST domestically available", and "where can this OST be found"<-- Legally, of course, as getting them the "other" way is covered under the "warez" question. Illegal aquisition of OSTs ("Ripped Music CDs" it says in the rules) is listed under the same forum rule as warez, "other illegal materials". This isn't ambiguous, really. But you have to read the forum rules properly to get the answer right.

Think about another possible option:

[ ] Licensed Anime

Note that there is no rules disallowing asking about licensed anime either, but against asking where to illegally aquire them. Options like these might seem ambiguous, but they're not really. They do, however require you to have read and UNDERSTOOD both the rules and the questions.

The point of this wouldn't just be to make people read the rules, but to actually make them understand them and the policy of AnimeSuki.

Well, since it won't be realized, all of this just becomes a mind-game.

[Lexander]

It got super lame when someone posted that animal porn Naruto Movie and at the same time ANBU was half a week behind their regular schedule...

[hobobaggins]

Originally Posted by Lexander

It got super lame when someone posted that animal porn Naruto Movie and at the same time ANBU was half a week behind their regular schedule...

are you serious?

.. ... ...

that just proves there needs to be a limit.

[OutPhase]

Originally Posted by boneyjellyfish

I can't think of any reason why it would be complicated. Since the forum runs off php and mysql software, something as simple as this would do the trick.

$query = "SELECT ID FROM (Insert name of table where posts are stored) ";
$query .= "WHERE author = \"" . $user . "\"";
$query = mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
$numrows = mysql_num_rows($query);

if($numrows > 50)
        print (Insert code for "New Thread" button here);

Even though the implementation of the feature is fairly simple (I'm not actually sure if vBulletin works like that, so don't take my word for it), I'm still against the idea of a minimum post count.

I didn't know it was that easy. This could actually work, along with a test for what topics you can make and not make. There's hope for this not-so-complicated idea.

Another cool idea that would also work is if you could lock and delete your own topics in case you feel things are too out of hand.

[kj1980]

create something like 2ch + Allow proper usage of Shift-JIS characters and spaces = instant monars and AAs to bash bad posts

[Shii]

Originally Posted by kj1980

create something like 2ch + Allow proper usage of Shift-JIS characters and spaces = instant monars and AAs to bash bad posts

Ahaha, this is the best suggestion by far. (By the way, kj, the "bash bad posts" technique has developed independently on the American forums "Something Awful". The parallels between SA and 2ch are pretty amazing, in my opinion.)


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[JOJOS'STAR]

Deja vue...

Anyway the last same thread had the conclusion of not doing so. I seems the N00bs have intresting topic and fresh idea to start threads
... As a matter of fact lots of the good thread are noob-creation ^^

But as I said then, 50 posts seem like a great improvement and a reasonable fuss ^___________________^

[hobobaggins]

Originally Posted by kj1980

create something like 2ch + Allow proper usage of Shift-JIS characters and spaces = instant monars and AAs to bash bad posts

... ... no they shouldnt have the power.

then all of the comments within the thread would be destroyed. or sealed.

that power should reside exclusivly with the mods.

[The1Voices]

No Test...
No minimum amount of posts.

Everyone has the right to express thier opinions, and if they break the forum rules then they should be warned and if they do it again banned (Temp or Perm).

[Taboo]

I don't think a quiz idea to create threads would be bad. Or it could even be something simple as a trick. Like at the top of the "You must read this rules page" say something in bold like Click the finish button only AFTER you have read the rules. But in a rule, give the real link to finish. I saw this in the rules on a different site, not a forum. Out of curiousity I clicked, the fake finish and it just said to go back and read the rules this time. Its simple, but may help.

Although, I really don't mind seeing the occasional locked thread, as long as the mods get there before a ton of hazing goes on.

[Akichan]

A 50 post thread creating limit...can I just say daaaaaaaaamn! I personally have less than 50 posts and I'm not that new here. In fact, I've been on the forum for about eight months and I've started two threads in the seeding request area. I just don't talk a lot.

I have to say, having that kind of limitation is irritating, if you do follow the rules. And don't forget you can just spam threads that are already made.

And a quiz? No offence meant, but even though I have read the rules (I can't remember why I did that...curiosity i think and all the quoting in the Naruto forum...) I'm still not perfect. And besides that, with everything I have had to memorize for my university courses, I don't want to sit here and memorize these rules for a quiz that essentially means very little in the grand scheme of my life.

Honestly, people are going to do what they want to, in the end. They'll start illegal threads if they feel the need to and while some are pretty funny, some aren't and I understand that the mods have a lot of work to do on that, but that's kind of their job. I mean, if there were no illegal threads, they'd have nothing to do, right?

I don't know what can be done for prevention, honestly, but I think the current system is fine. The mods are on top of things which is commendable.

Akichan ^^

-Disappointed today because she can't get on RIZON

[The1Voices]

<-----I joined this forum about year and a half ago and I visit almost daily, and yet I have less then 40 post. Granted I lost most my post previous to the quote unquote big crash, when ever that was. I forget. Just b/c someone has made a-lot of post, doesn’t Necessarily mean that they are experienced. Odds are they probably just talk too much. To ask for someone to have 50 pervious post in order to start a thread seems hollow, because you can’t always determine someone’s experience, maturity or what they have to offer this way.

The only idea I’ve liked so far is to have people read the forum rules page before they join.

[JAppi]

Originally Posted by The1Voices

To ask for someone to have 50 pervious post in order to start a thread seems hollow, because you can?t always determine someone?s experience, maturity or what they have to offer this way.

Yes, it would probably also lead to alot of mass naked spammage events.

[luckme10]

OMG, THE ILLEGAL THREADS, THE HORROR!(see references to heart of darkness and Apocalypse Now. Ok now that i got my one liner out of the way. Picture this.
Little bobby had just seen an episode of Dragon Ball Z. He was intrigued by the cool fighting sequence, fine art, raw emotion, and ongoing plot that can only be provided by the great Dragon Ball Z. Little Bobby does some digging and ends up in the animesuki forum. Little did he know that by signing up and posting that he would be SHOT DOWN by the clutches of big bad otakus who got picked on one too many times in middle school. They laugh at little Bobbyand Bash him at every corner. They tell him dubbin sux and use poor internet derived short cut keys such as lol and l33t. They also telling him DBZ SUCKS WATCH and to "Teacher ください！", blah blah and blah. Pretty soon little Bobby's life is corrupted, he's watching お願い twins and getting off on 10 year old anime kiddy porn while attending cosplay conventions with excessively ugly pitiful excuses for human beings. All because he posted one thread about DBZ.

All that's said and done. I agree with Whatever and his 368 "constructive" posts for containing these raping illegal threads. Think of the children.