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View Poll Results: Do you like Orihime? | |||
I liked her before... | 50 | 5.66% | |
I love her! | 208 | 23.53% | |
I like her. | 190 | 21.49% | |
Don't really like her, don't really hate her. | 190 | 21.49% | |
I dislike her.. | 87 | 9.84% | |
I HATE HER. | 143 | 16.18% | |
Other. | 16 | 1.81% | |
Voters: 884. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-09-15, 00:57 | Link #981 |
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If he was a good writer, then he would make Ichigo reject her, and Orihime bravely overcoming the trauma that comes afterward. Seriously, Ichigo is just so...unlikeable anyway. Even if he did hook up with Orihime, he'd put his friends in front of her, and no girl likes her guy worrying about others over her.
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2008-09-15, 04:45 | Link #982 | |
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We As one are not intertwined As two: do not share the same form Of the third: we simply don't have eyes Of the fourth: we have no hope in that direction At the fifth therein lies the heart Nice see what kubos done here hes taken Orihimes 5 liftimes one love and turned it compleatly on its head - you may love him for 5 liftimes orihime but if you don't have a strong bond with him it's a fruitless love. Anway on argument if kubo was a good writer he would go with the relationship he has developed the most and that is ichigo and rukias it has never been stagnet it has always been developing and no doubt it wont stop until the end of the manga Last edited by starshine; 2008-09-15 at 09:06. |
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2008-09-15, 07:09 | Link #983 | |
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I was tempted to remove this string of coversation by thinking it's another one of those shipping-in-disguise (I wasn't too far removed ), but after reading Debbiechan and Sinta in response to Kakashi's post, I'll leave those posts intact. Please stick to the discussion without bringing shipping on the table. If you are wrecking your brain for trying to figure out how to do that, then you've my sympathy. Also be warned, stay away from this thread or any other, if you've shipping in mind. You won't have to deal with me.
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2008-09-15, 07:19 | Link #984 |
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Wow...Sinta is killing Ichigo and Hari hates him
Sinta...(Killing him is worse) Hari... @Sinta...no it's not objective in a hate thread. But as far as shipping goes it is. I can totally separate business and personal. If I asses characters and character relationships I keep my personal feelings out of it. I just look at the evidence. Which is why I hate the "Orihime is threat" when it's directed at me. I seriously believe she isn't one. When I see evidence that she is...I won't say that. @Kenshin...she's so special Ichigo has to be reminded about her when she's standing next to him. He loves all human beings, but they aren't all special to him. She's an acquaintance ... @Debbie. I am not demeaning the fans. I am talking about the ship not the shippers. I laugh at the characters not the people (Not always true in some cases, but I don't make it a habit ) That's the thing people keep misinterpreting. I don't like the character so I laugh at her ass, not her supporters. Except HT and My neglectful husband... |
2008-09-15, 07:28 | Link #985 | ||
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"I will love you 5 times" is VERY uninteresting and boring but most of all, it's not going to happen. A person who has shared many experiences with another can say this. But she is 16. I'm not using her age as excuses for mistakes, that's the last thing I'll ever do in Orihime character debate, but to say you'll love someone for 5 LIVES is impossible at that age. She'll have so many chances Why people pity Orihime? If I was her(and if she was real) I would like people to admire me for things I've done but not to feel sorry for me(especially strangers) because I've tried to get to a guy but I couldn't. Orihime cannot comprehend her words. She may be more mature than all teenagers but in the end, she still doesn't have experience. Not enough to say she'll love a guy for so long and she hasn't really shared ENOUGH with Ichigo to say she'll love him forever. Bad writing will be if Kubo makes Orihime's love shared because her character, due to her crush, makes her doubt herself, makes her underestimate her powers and thanks to her love which is supposed to make people better, she starts lacking confidence. You can love a character for its flaws when they are acceptable and PART of her personality. Orihime being so insecure and dependant is not part of her real personality, it's part of her love for Ichigo. Orihime's fans should wait forward to Orihime getting over Ichigo and being what she is. Because what Orihime around her nakama is and what Orihime around Ichigo is are two very different things. Bad writing is to leave a character undeveloped in the end of the manga(because Orihime has flaws that CAN be defeated-but not as long as she loves Ichigo). But what's certainly wrong is to say bad writing is to make one-sided couple suddenly two-sided. And to add, I'm not starting a shipping war. I'm not trying at all-I am jusy trying to say discuss Orihime's character because like it or not, her love for Ichigo is part of this. Also, my post is connected to her fate and what I think will happen-don't delete it please. Quote:
However, what fans CANNOT get is very worthy and deserving girls can suffer from unrequited love-it's not something you judge by personality or appereance. People don't choose who to fall in love with.
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2008-09-15, 07:47 | Link #987 | |
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2008-09-15, 08:19 | Link #989 |
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huh, i don't think Ichigo could reject her. Though I'm not say he likes her but if you were talking to Orihime how could you be mean to her? Besides you never know I mean Sakura from Naruto is slowly getting out of her crush (or love from what she says) on Sasuke. I doubt Orihime will love Ichigo as long as she says she does.
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2008-09-15, 09:24 | Link #990 |
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Well you never know, Shirley from Code Geass never let Lelouch go. Her love for him was deeper than other of his love interests in the series!
Anyways, I thought Orihime's character development was her self worth and confidence, not getting over Ichigo? I don't think he makes her weak at all, he's like her motivation to get stronger or improve herself so she can she's worthy of being his girlfriend. IchiRuki happening would be okay I guess...But I'm not a fan of two leads ending up with each other...it just doesn't seem fair to me, how the side character always loses. >_< Last edited by Scarlett_Rain55; 2008-09-15 at 09:40. |
2008-09-15, 09:53 | Link #991 | ||
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Also, she starts DOUBTING herself because of him. Blah. Read my post about 5 lifetimes, one love. You'll get my point. Quote:
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2008-09-15, 10:16 | Link #992 | |
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Spoiler for 286...:
No she isn't. I say it all the time. The job comes with risks. Ichigo saves people because he wants to. He's not really that noble. He would risk life and limb for a stranger. Orihime is a school mate so he would do for her too. However they aren't friends at all. She is creepy and a stalker... She used to be cute (Mom commented yesterday as I was watching an anime re-run that they way her eyes are drawn. She looks pathetic, and she could see 0 self esteem a mile a way. She thought KT was really clever to be able to show that)...Now she's ugly to me...so I hate her! |
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2008-09-15, 11:24 | Link #993 | |||
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*Wonders if discussing Orihime's feelings for Ichigo crosses into shipper territory. If so, apologies, excuse this monir.* |
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2008-09-15, 12:19 | Link #994 | |
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2008-09-15, 12:39 | Link #995 | |
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My point was that bashing shippers and invalidating their arguments by saying "oh they're just threatened" is a no-no. That's avoiding discourse and getting personal. You really can't (and shouldn't) put down real people or groups of people in order to defend your argument about fictional people in a manga. I mean, I could EASILY make gross generalizations about the nature of IchiOri shippers or UlquiHime shippers or people who like Orihime or people who hate Orihime---forgive me if I'm mistaken, but is this thread allowed to disintegrate to grotesque stereotyping? I know Orihime lovers who are twelve year old girls and think she's awesome, some who are 23 year boys and think she's hot, some who are forty year old women and think she's endearing. Her haters cover the spectrum too. So you can't say that people who argue against a particular ship have one motive and motive alone: they are threatened by the other ship and have some serious psychological problem that keeps them from being happily entertained by just enjoying their own favorite ships. Some people (and again, I take OD as an example) just seem to like shipping debate the way some people like football. And some people ENJOY hating Orihime. That never bothered me. She's one of my favorite characters but I know the hate expressed here can't hurt her; what CAN hurt, though, is hate is expressed at real people and real fans.
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2008-09-15, 12:42 | Link #996 | |||
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Please leave my pedo-bear-ess-2-D(He's under 17) male complex alone! Quote:
It does not mean you know them. It does mean you are bonded to them. It's when you share your deepest feelings and the times when you don't have to with someone. That is knowing and loving someone's personality. She knows what she knows "of him" not because she really knows him. <---That's why I keep saying they are not friends. They lack intimacy.Like you said she could find out ...some things that turn her off For her to swear five lifetimes to someone she doesn't really know or have a real relationship is not good. Quote:
(for some it is part of the reason they hate her. How many people said that's why? Not being able to discuss them just makes this a pointless hate thread. *Again;No Beef*) Which is not what I am about . I want to bash her I can just wear one of my sigs...* Shipping is big... |
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2008-09-15, 12:46 | Link #997 | |
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2008-09-15, 14:13 | Link #998 | |||
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in a way she is trying to protect him she doesn't want him to get hurt for saving her like in the S.S arc where he saves her. Quote:
die remindes me of Naruto. So you hate her because she looks pathetic? "Now she's Ugly to me...so I hate her!" that was harsh that doesn't make me hate or like her. Quote:
didn't really talk intell they got powers and they both need help. I think she has 3 choices Sado Ishida Ichigo those are the main three she can form a relashinship to me.
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2008-09-15, 14:19 | Link #999 |
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friend and acquaintance can go hand in hand, Orihime may not be a close friend like Tatsuki or Rukia, but she is a friend nonetheless, and she's not a stalker, couldn't trump up enough evidence to prove it to me |
2008-09-15, 14:34 | Link #1000 | |
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people have to realise to make ichigo and orihime believable as a romantic outcome -kubo needs to build a mutual strong bond between the two -but so far its all a one way street Last edited by starshine; 2008-09-15 at 15:12. |
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