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View Poll Results: Favorite Pairing in Code Geass R2 | |||
Lelouch Stays Single | 141 | 13.51% | |
Lelouch x C.C. | 678 | 64.94% | |
Lelouch x Kallen | 340 | 32.57% | |
Lelouch x Millay | 54 | 5.17% | |
Lelouch x Harem | 121 | 11.59% | |
Suzaku Stays Single | 148 | 14.18% | |
Suzaku x Nunally | 60 | 5.75% | |
Lloyd x Millay | 23 | 2.20% | |
Viletta x Ougi | 179 | 17.15% | |
Rival x Millay | 93 | 8.91% | |
Lloyd x Cecile | 116 | 11.11% | |
Kanon x Nina | 45 | 4.31% | |
Xing-ke x Tianzi | 150 | 14.37% | |
Todou x Chiba | 81 | 7.76% | |
Gino x Anya | 52 | 4.98% | |
Cornelia x Guilford | 142 | 13.60% | |
Zero x Kaguya | 87 | 8.33% | |
Others (please list) | 96 | 9.20% | |
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2008-10-09, 21:33 | Link #8481 |
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My mistake. You should have made that clear, though. Still, she had an active role because the Gawain is a two-seater, then took it upon herself to simply drown our beloved Jeremiah.
He'd be dead, so it wouldn't really matter. In any case, that doesn't lend itself all that well to romance. She is someone who from the beginning has inserted herself into his life. He more or less can't hide things from her.
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2008-10-09, 21:45 | Link #8482 | |
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She became a means for which, I'd assume, Lelouch could learn more about Geass and possibly Marianne and Charles. Which actually became unrealised. But again, C.C's relevance was only towards one part of the plot which was geass, outside that the writers kept her involvement to a minimum. Lelouch did not act differently around her, he acts differently mostly around Nunally. There are scenes that does show through though but with C.C and others as well they mostly went nowhere. Having an impact on one thing does not constitute as a major character. |
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2008-10-09, 22:36 | Link #8483 |
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Well, ChiChi was the one that told Lelouch to depend on a friend, which led to him meeting and 'being betrayed' by Suzaku, which led to his 'confession' being played to the BKs, which basically led to the rest of the series. So C.C. was significant for that reason (has little to nothing to do w/ romantic development though and one could almost consider ChiChi and C.C. separate characters).
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2008-10-09, 22:43 | Link #8484 | |
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2008-10-09, 22:48 | Link #8485 | |
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I'm a huge fan of C.C., but it's this kind of argument that can prove Clovis and the likes are all key characters. |
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2008-10-09, 22:57 | Link #8486 | |
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Season 1 she is a main character. Season 2 she is a secondary character and plot device. This plot device problem isn't limited to her character, Shirley was also used as a plot device with her death. It started the chain of events that led to the betrayal. To the best of my knowledge, only Kallen was never used as a plot device to move Lelouch in some direction in R2. Episode 7 is an open decision on her part to find him and move him to return, not drive the plot in some arbitrary new direction. Shirley and the Student Council with being conveniently present at the school were a far larger plot device. Kallen can argued to have been a deus ex machina in saving him, but that isn't limited to her. Rolo was also nothing more than plot device after plot device, his character was also secondary. Even Nunally was at a point in time a plot device, Episode 6 and 18. How about this explanation: No one would have made much notice of it if the spoiler writer hadn't misinterpreted the band-aid for a ring. There is nothing to say that it was anything aside from coincidence. Not to mention that the implication is worse than a siscon, because its taking advantage of what would be an ignorant ten year old girl. |
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2008-10-09, 23:01 | Link #8487 | |
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And what do you think of the band aid? I hope we will get an explanation, it's on my list of unanswered things about c.c.. |
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2008-10-09, 23:05 | Link #8488 | |
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As for what the writers why the writers decided to make that particular finger bleed, it was most likely fanservice like the Kallen scenes so that C.C.XLulu fans wouldn't feel completely unsatisfied with the ending. |
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2008-10-09, 23:08 | Link #8489 |
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You know, Narona, this is a forum for discussion. If you do not like someone's opinions then you can just put them on ignore list or just not pay attention to their posts but you do not really have to antagonize them. You said it yourself, all opinions are equal, by openly telling someone not to waste their time though you are implying that their opinion is worthless or beneath notice.
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2008-10-09, 23:10 | Link #8490 | ||
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I don't think that the kallenXLelouch scene were fanservice, nor that the band aid was. I prefer to think that it has a meaning, maybe not only about the romance plot but a meaning |
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2008-10-09, 23:17 | Link #8491 | |
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It's like fishing with a hook without any bait and seeing how many fish would get into the mentality that there's actually bait there and use their own minds to create a bait and then bite on it. |
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2008-10-09, 23:21 | Link #8492 | |
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If it was just fanservice, it was really bad. All the LxK scenes amounted to the kiss in 22 but it seems like they didn't go anywhere with the LxC scenes...(unless you think Lelouch is alive of course ) They could have done something else! Didn't have to raise our hopes |
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2008-10-09, 23:23 | Link #8493 |
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Well, heres the thing about the ring finger. Under what cultural lense are we supposed to be looking at this through? Not all cultures have the same "ring finger", and especially not 600-ish years ago (which is the mind frame ChiChi was in). So we don't really have to much information to run on with this. Sure, if they gave it the modern japanese understanding of the ring finger, it can work. If ChiChi is originally from a country that did so, then it could work (although thats a huge can of worms right there. If she sealed herself to her mindframe from 600 years ago, what languages does she know? or does this imply she's from japan? But even thats iffy because languages suffer all sorts of changes due to time O_o) . But if those factors aren't true....
Basically, I'm not sure we're given enough information to really say where the ring finger band aid is going or coming from. We can speculate, but its kinda hard to make headway on this.
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2008-10-09, 23:29 | Link #8495 | |
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2008-10-09, 23:29 | Link #8496 | ||
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Taniguchi: Lelouch goes with x! Okuochi: No way! Lelouch will be ending up with y! Taniguchi: I'm the director, OBEY ME! Okuochi: You need me and you know it! Taniguchi: ... Okuochi: ... *Five Episodes Later* Okuochi: I'm not going to work with this and you can't make me! Taniguchi: Fine... geez. We'll compromise and screw over all the fans. Quote:
You seem to delve quite deeply into entertainment... you weren't the same person that calculated Kain's jumping air velocity and the impossibilities of him breaking the laws of physics in Final Fantasy IV, were you!? Could you also be the one that brought up the infinite recurssion theory for the Item World-Item-Item World-Item relationship in Disgaea!? |
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2008-10-09, 23:36 | Link #8497 |
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I've been wondering, is English still called English in the CG world, or is it called Britannian? I would assume at the very least Lelouch, Suzaku, C.C. and Kallen would have to fluent in both in order to get by (Lelouch and Kallen would even need to pull it off w/o much of an accent). It just never made sense to me that an invader would adopt the conquered country's native tonge.
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2008-10-09, 23:36 | Link #8498 | |
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2008-10-09, 23:38 | Link #8499 |
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The only reason I've delved deeply into this particular matter is because of how fairly deep other matters of Code Geass are developed. This show has a surprising amount of depth to it's backstory and understanding of things. I would just find it peculiar for that particular scene to be lacking such depth. Basically, if the same yardstick can't be applied to most of the scenes are supposed to find "deeper meaning" in (such as interpreting the band-aid as a ring), it sort of defies the purpose of having that yardstick, doesn't it?
I find your speculation that Taniguchi & Okouichi might have been shipping for different pairings highly amusing though XD. Just think......we weren't trolled in the end for giggles, but because Taniguchi & Okouichi had their own private shipping wars for the previous 2 years, and this was the result of a peace treaty XD
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Oh yeah, youngde. This is anime, the creators and the majority of the viewers don't care about details like that >.<. |
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