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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 Series Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 365 | 44.95% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 199 | 24.51% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 92 | 11.33% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 76 | 9.36% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 31 | 3.82% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 20 | 2.46% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 9 | 1.11% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 4 | 0.49% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 0.25% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 14 | 1.72% | |
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2008-11-01, 09:52 | Link #301 |
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the shen-hu had much more potential that xing-ke just couldnt make use of
he was fighting the guren (kasoshki) and tristain using 40% power and they both out manuvered him and bismark went even farther if kicking his ass (despite not using his geass) but if he could use it at its full potential he might have had a better chance at winning the lancelot (original) was more powerfull then any other machine in its time, but only when matched with a pilot that could use it effectivelly (other pilots could bearly make it move) gillford could match toudo's costume gekka (which for all intent and purpose, was a zangetsu without a float unit) while using a glosster (season 1 ep 25) this despite toudo matching him using his burai kai in ep 11 a machines strangth is only as such as the pilot could make use of and in that regard xing-ke is not on the same level as suzaku and kallen both were hampered by the limit of their machine potential until being given the newer 9th gens (as evident by their ability to use them effectivelly) once given the 9th gen the machine potential stopped to matter as both were now limited by their own skill level rather then the limit of what the machine could do) xing-ke on the other hand was given an 8th gen KMF (possibley the strongest 8th gen but still only 8th) and wasnt able to use its specs to its full potential he was matched evenly against toudo pushed back by the tristain and manuvered into a death trap by the guren and all and all trashed by the galahad its not likely he would have done better in a 9th gen since he couldnt even make full use of his corrent machine
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2008-11-01, 10:11 | Link #302 | |
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2008-11-01, 10:31 | Link #303 |
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he's not useless (or even anything BUT and ace pilot on the same level as toudo and the rounds)
but he's not on the same level as suzaku or kallen the more powerfull machine would only make an impact when the pilot would be skilled enough to use it the battle between the SEITEN and the conquesta was a good example of what the difference in machine potential could do but since the shen-hu is much stronger then the guren (kasoshiki) since it could match it at 40% power then had xing-ke been a better pilot he should have had an easy victory (since he could use the machine potential to a better level) instead he almost lost the fight (the power failure saved him) and in the next ep he couldnt even beat gino (or toudo) this is a case of pilot limit rather then machine limit he wouldnt have done much better in a 9th gen (if he was even able to pilot it that is)
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2008-11-01, 11:32 | Link #304 |
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the thing is though that Xing-ke was sick. he couldnt be at his best. i consider it a plot hole that this guy was consider a genius and then lose and be happer by his sickness.
i sometimes wonder if the Xing-ke would of been untouchable if it was the one to be upgraded. so much room there should be a thread on ranking the pilots and also if the all the mechas each got upgraded to a 9th generation form, who would be the best machine.
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2008-11-01, 11:33 | Link #305 |
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The 40% power refers to the Baryon cannon, not the actual machine as I recall. Plus, the ability to pilot a 9th generation frame is not a matter of skill but physical endurance. Even if he couldn't pilot it, that doesn't change the fact that his skill is on their level.
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2008-11-01, 11:55 | Link #306 |
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are you sure about the cannon
he seemed to have only used it once (against the gurens fukshado) since he seems impressed by it then and he never the less was matched by both gino and toudo the 9th gens (or at least the albion) didnt seem all that more powerfull just much faster suzkau and xing-ke were exchanging blows more or less on even ground until suzkau used the speed to get around him and chop the arm off aside from the energy wings how much more powerfull could the albion be it has better shields and energy wings (with luminus shards shooters, but without the guren's wings ability to slice things in half with them) it has better varis but thats not really a matter of the albion itself (it just carries them) it has four harkens with boosters (same as the old) has 2 MVS (same as old) it doesnt seem more powerfull by much just faster with better shields (and the luminus shards)
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2008-11-01, 12:05 | Link #308 |
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BTW while on the subject of 9th gens
i think i found one thing that might indicate why kallen says the guren should have higher specs after she and suzaku start fighting without the arm or shield suzaku drives up the platform with kallen chasing him when suzaku reaches the top kallen actually jumps over him and does a flip it might mean that the guren is faster (since it was traveling faster in order to jump that high) while on foot that might be what she ment when she said it had better specs (since at that point there was nothing else left)
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2008-11-01, 14:56 | Link #309 | |
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If you have to make up idiotic ideas like the third person who is actually equal to Suzaku, and Kallen is somehow unable to pilot their giant robots theirfore his robot is never upgraded, than you kind of just messed up. As for claiming that Xingke would be able to pilot the Albion if he didn't have the coughing blood illness, thats like claiming that Nunnaly is Lebron James equal if not for the whole she's crippled business. |
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2008-11-01, 15:20 | Link #310 | |
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2008-11-01, 15:31 | Link #311 | |
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and the powerout saved him from kallen (nothing holds for long against the radiation arm, and the shen-hu has no shields) he may be an ace pilot but not on their level
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2008-11-01, 15:33 | Link #312 | |
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The best example I am talking about is G Gundam where the Shuffle Alliance are shown to be on the same skill level by almost defeating Domon Kasshu in his God Gundam even though their Gundams are much weaker. |
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2008-11-01, 15:35 | Link #313 |
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He wasn't aiming to beat Tohdoh, and he certainly didn't lose to him. He was distracted by Tianzi, at which point Gino got him. Kallen is only one who fairly beat him, or rather would have. To say he is worse than all three is misleading. He just doesn't get the chance to perform.
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2008-11-01, 15:40 | Link #314 | |
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he's not a bad pilot (in any way) but the skill difference between him and suzkau and kallen is bigger then you give it credit suzaku could use the albion becouse it was costume built for him kallen could (my theory) pilot the SEITEN when no one else could becouse she spent so long behind the control of the guren so far that she only had to get used to the newer systems rather then learn how to fly from scrach xing-ke had the strongest 8th gen and just couldnt use it to the max so giving him a 9th gen (who requires even more skill to pilot properly) wouldnt have made all that big of a differnce IMO
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2008-11-01, 15:49 | Link #316 | |
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yet all three matched or outmanuverd him it logiclly should have been his fight if he could use it to the limit
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2008-11-01, 15:53 | Link #317 |
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AS Charred has pointed out, skill does come into play. Kallen immobilized him by grabbing his wrist harken. Gino caught him off guard and damaged a wing, and he stalemated Tohdoh. You try to portray it as if he failed miserably against these people.
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2008-11-01, 15:58 | Link #318 | |
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i never said he was defeated in any of those fights but he should have won them rather then end up at a stale mate and by the way gino was pushing him back even before the wing thing he had a machine that SHOULD have been better but he still couldnt win which in my book means he couldnt use it to the max im not saying he "failed miserably" and im sorry if thats what it sounded like im saying he couldnt win despite using a machine that was better then theirs
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2008-11-01, 16:52 | Link #320 |
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OK .. I just finished watching the whole series almost non-stop and I must say...
OMFG!!!! HEART ATTACK!!!!! ......... there was so much going on and the story kept twisting and tickling my brain it was ridiculous (in an awesome way) ... I never saw Lelouch last move coming..... to become evil incarnated and to take all the hatred with him ... Good lord, what a MASTERFUL move! .. I saw the first season and I have to say I was NOT expecting what I just saw.... totally blown away.... Also for Nanaly to play such a huge roll as well as Zusaku (sorry for the misspellings) .... this was unbelievable! This is now definitively worthy of being one of my faves and even tho I don't like the Meccha genre, I must say this is a huge exception. I am now taking a shower to calm down cause watching almost the entire series non-stop has taken a toll on my nervous system....
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