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MidnightViper88 · 2008-12-13, 00:54

"Mastered" can be a subjective term though, since it could be argued that Naruto has not yet been able to create a Futon Rasen-Shuriken without the aid of shadow clones, much less with Rasengan...

In either case, Naruto hasn't mastered Futon Rasen-Shuriken until he can use the technique without the double-edged sword effect of damaging himself...

Freya · 2008-12-13, 01:42

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"Mastered" can be a subjective term though, since it could be argued that Naruto has not yet been able to create a Futon Rasen-Shuriken without the aid of shadow clones, much less with Rasengan...

In either case, Naruto hasn't mastered Futon Rasen-Shuriken until he can use the technique without the double-edged sword effect of damaging himself...

Nah. More like until he can actually throw the stupid thing.

APastelPainting · 2008-12-13, 01:43

I like how supposedly that attack continually cut Kakuzu's body but I wish like the attack actually chopped up his body (it was still in one piece when it hit the ground).

Although I guess they can't have that because, according to the preview, they bring back the body to examine it.

I was also very impressed with the arc overall, and I think this episode wrapped it up nicely. I wonder how Sakura will react when she sees Naruto (<3?)

CuXe · 2008-12-13, 06:34

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Originally Posted by APastelPainting

I like how supposedly that attack continually cut Kakuzu's body but I wish like the attack actually chopped up his body (it was still in one piece when it hit the ground).

Although I guess they can't have that because, according to the preview, they bring back the body to examine it.

I was also very impressed with the arc overall, and I think this episode wrapped it up nicely. I wonder how Sakura will react when she sees Naruto (<3?)

yeap... I also thought there for a sec that such nuclear warhead was going to disintegrate kakuzu's body.... kinda disappointing it didn't...... but hey all things considered it made a fan outta Kakashi

Mr. DJ · 2008-12-14, 10:29

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I like how supposedly that attack continually cut Kakuzu's body but I wish like the attack actually chopped up his body (it was still in one piece when it hit the ground).

you'll have your answer soon

lordblazer · 2008-12-14, 13:23

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The episode was worth it just to see such a nicely animated attack. However, I found myself agreeing w/ thervltn to a degree. That is to say, I have little problems with the actual episode. My issues are mainly directed towards the story including the manner to which Kakuzu was defeated and Naruto's supposed progress as a fighter.

While the attack is definitely powerful, I can't help but wonder how useful the attack really is when
-He still needs shadow clones to create it
-It's extremely noisy
-It still has to connect at point blank range to be effective.
-he gets roughed up even if it does connect

Also, since the attack is so noisy, how did Naruto manage to completely muffle the sound of his attack while sneaking up close enough behind Kakuzu for him not to have any time to react? I mean one would think Kakuzu should've been able to hear the attack coming a mile away. But I guess not.

In hindsight, I think it would've been better for Naruto to end the fight at the beginning of the episode with the first attempt. That way, they wouldn't have messed with the momentum they built from the previous episode of making Naruto look & feel like he made some actual progress, and it also wouldn't have downplayed Kakuzu in the process. Had the attack connected the first time around, at least I could've blamed Kakuzu's loss on the element of surprise having never seen the attack before and not knowing what to expect.

Secondly, is Naruto ever going to learn a technique as powerful as this new one, but that's actually difficult to evade? Because I have to say, even with the Fuuton Rasen-Shuriken, I still feel like this probably pales in comparison to fighters on Sasuke and Itachi's level (with all their hax no jutsu's).

*sighs*
I think Choji was onto something. This technique would've been much more worthwhile if he could somehow throw it.

</rant>.

It's a cartoon I think everyone should take a chill pill and just enjoy the fact that they didn't drag the fight out as long as they usually do with important Naruto battles. Also lets just enjoy the show, and stop comparing it to the comic book.

Biswa · 2008-12-14, 14:04

I think this episode was really good. It animated the rasengan very well and they made it seem impressive. Much easier to see it animated than guess from the manga.

The only problem I have with it is the sound/music. I think they could have gotten stronger sound effects to show the rasengan's power. Also they could have used better music, like more serious tones during the actual attack. It's a freakin menacing move, so they should really emphasize it.

Anyway, I watched this episode only for this scene. I didn't watch most of the episodes before this, so I guess I may be a bit unbiased (in a bad way).

snowyhands · 2008-12-14, 14:19

the last episode was awesome.

shika's scene in this episode was awesome.

Naruto's scene was still lame even with the suped up rasengan. "completely NEW Naruto"; what's that guy smokin?

Kakuzu looked retarded. He should have just reused his strands to rensnare the entire group after that explosion, but he just stood there. Then he actually faught Naruto.

Kakuzu faught Naruto

It was scary when he attacked shika and the original group comprising asuma, it was incredible when he was fighting kakashi; it was retarded when he fought Naruto

That's like a grown man arguing/fighting some one in first grade and then losing

The technique was kindof cool but was lame with how the entire episode was orchestrated.

can't even describe, can only rant

CoreyPmc1 · 2008-12-14, 15:38

Naruto haters, who still watch Naruto, are annoying.

DJ* · 2008-12-14, 16:04

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Naruto haters, who still watch Naruto, are annoying.

Indeed, discussion isn't welcome here. You lot act as if this is a forum or something

.

On another note, it was nice to see the FRS animated.

Shame they couldn't make Naruto's battle with Kakuzu even remotely interesting. With all of his fight experience, his plan on fighting clones was to ignore them and focus on the one he can only assume is the real one.

He still looks the silly amateur beaten by a ludicrously simple trick that he did in the manga, but there's nothing the animation team can do about that given the source material.

I've found the last 2 episodes pacing pretty slow (especially the 'special'). Hopefully this story expansion will be better as they can actually make some scenes up to stretch things instead of simply focussing on static images of characters faces for seconds at a time and using flashbacks.

sayde · 2008-12-14, 16:20

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