2009-01-23, 11:22 | Link #1322 |
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I'd say just about any relationship that attempts to include Lloyd is pretty much going to fail at some point or another. He's been around Cecile for god knows how long but only looks at her as a fellow scientist. His one chance of getting married to a beautiful, young girl did not interest him beyond the possibility of getting a mecha.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the animosity between Rakshata and Lloyd was pretty deep as well. Not like lovers who went their seperate ways but scientists who had a fundamental disagreement. As crazy as Rakshata is about her mechas, she at least considers human life valuable, something Lloyd does not. |
2009-01-23, 12:08 | Link #1323 |
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Mh, you are right, it's quite impossible to have a *normal* sentimental life with Lloyd, and it was surely the case for his fiancé, but I think Cécile has accepted the oddities of his personality already, and that's she prepared to what she'd found being with him.
As for him, well, he do not act as having anything but a professional symbiotic relationship with Cécile, but I think it's not impossible for her to make him change his mind. After all, she's inside Lloyd's world more than anyone else. And I agree about his animosity with Rakshata being not of romantic nature, although we don't know if the starting break-up was something this important or, as Cécile hinted in the last episode, something really small. What's for granted is that the deep reason they grew apart is what you pointed out: deep down Rakshata has some values that Lloyd has not. Anyway, Cosmic Eagle, they can make quite a humorous couple if that's what you meant. =) |
2009-01-23, 12:51 | Link #1324 | |
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Oh and btw,the reason you do not like Kallen is because she is not behaving lady-like?This is a shallow reason,should i ask you as well not to say your opinion about her? On topic,i lol hard with the poems,compare C.C and Kallen poem.Just that.You get the idea.And in general,like we Greek are used to say,Spartans with simple words,it is easy to see now: Shirlulu got a lot of scenes and in the best of all,got a line from Lelouch that said 'i do not know' about her.So for the sake of argument,let's put it 50/50 here. CluClu(lol)got nothing in the series,but for the sake of argument,let's say that those pandering moments between them,might have been something romantic.There comes the word 'equal'.Shot down. Kalulu got a lot of scenes,most of them that could be interpreted in a lot of ways.For example their kiss,CluClu fans(lol)were laughing because in their eyes at the moment was nothing.For Kalulu fans,it was what the NewType booklet came to confirm for them.It was like director's cut,when you can see the real inner thoughts of the characters. Add these to the poems in relevance to relationships as well(Shirlulu slip away,CluClu enjoying his pain,Kalulu controversial at least,because if you look at it better,it expresses some of Lelouch's thoughts as well)i think if someone says that Kalulu is not romantic,it is the same saying that C.C has blue hair.Kalulu got scenes and the meaning behind those scenes,make it move into near canon levels.Whether you like it or not.(obviously a lot of people do not like it otherwise there would not be such a ruckus.You should sign a petition to have more marketing images though,that will ease your sunken ship pain.Fiction life sucks,what can i say?) |
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2009-01-23, 13:18 | Link #1325 | |
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2009-01-23, 13:41 | Link #1326 |
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I got some spare time today and finally took the courage to actually look at PD5 full-lenght -and yeah I blushed again like a tomato at fanservice!Chiba but managed to not avert my eyes XD!
With my zero knowledge of japanese languages I do not understood anything but the obvious, that is none of the BK guys is considered a real men by the girls, except, maybe, Tohdoh-san (even though that hen thing that popped from the background after his appearance was ...weird, at least ) and that Minami has been spotted out as a lolicon also by them. XD It could be that Xiangling liked Asahina - not that I pretend someone would care about, but whatever.... Poor Sugiyama, lol =P If someone got a better clue of the dialogue, please share^^ I'm curious to know what Li was so pissed about - old women corrupting his dear Tianzi? |
2009-01-23, 14:34 | Link #1328 | |
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Even if I can't look at Lloyd without thinking: "Yep. Definitely an aromantic asexual!" xD And even if someone were to declare you a CharlesxTamaki shipper! ...Omg, I really should stop creeping myself out. Anyway, I like seeing Lloyd interact with almost everyone, and if I could see him developing a love life, it would probably be with Cecile. Rakshata is awesome, but somehow... they are too similar for my taste, even if I agree that Lloyd is certainly more of a mad scientist than her. And then there's Suzaku... if one were to add him to the mix, Lloyd and Cecile would definitely make a fascinating little family. xD
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2009-01-23, 14:43 | Link #1329 | ||
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When you say "none of the BK guys", does it include Zero/Lelouch too? Quote:
I was also a LlyodXCecile shipper, but it got no clue that those two could fall in love for each other. Instead, I was surprised when I read that back in R1, they apparently planned to hint towards a SuzakuXCecile pairing. But again, in R2, it didn't happen. As for Rakshata, I thought that "maybe" there was more behind her sarcastic comments about Lloyd (pudding Earl), but no, she just seems to have a little grudge against him. R2 didn't really deliver in term of possible romantic hints concerning those side characters. But since the pacing was already not very good, they weren't able to include more side plots, and even cut some other plots (suzaku's relation to geass for example). |
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2009-01-23, 15:09 | Link #1331 |
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Lakshata made their flight suits to increase the pilot's survival rate by causing them to inflate like that. Instead of letting inflate, Urabe apologizes to her and deflates it, choosing to sacrifice himself instead of getting out of there alive. No mystery there.
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2009-01-23, 20:52 | Link #1337 | |
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2009-01-24, 00:29 | Link #1338 | |
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Kalulu had scenes, but that doesn't mean I have to find it romantic. I've seen plenty of Kalulu fans claim the R2 Turn 7 scene as proof, but I saw that as nothing more than Lelouch being a giant asshat and Kallen rightly calling him out on it. I never shipped C.CxLulu, so I can't say anything about that, but I wouldn't say Shirlulu is any less canon (or more canon) than Kalulu. People say it ended with Shirley's death, but did SuzaEuphie end with Euphie's death? She was still an important person to Suzaku, and someone he continued to love, and she influenced his actions in R2, just like Shirley did to Lelouch. I don't believe we'll ever get a real conclusion to the shipwars for this show, unless zombie!Lelouch shows up in R3. But you can't claim a ship is sunk just because you feel your ship has more "canon weight" or "extra material", because all that is subject to interpretation.
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2009-01-24, 02:16 | Link #1340 | |
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KewellxJeremiah is almost number 1 though.
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