speculation on how naruto will end

[Crossfire]

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[christinemarie]

Speculations and going ahead to the future


Naruto - DragonBallZ similarities

The reason for the collection of 9 Monster's Chakra was to enable to request any wish they desire. Madara's plan was already stated but thanks to Hachibi's former container and Naruto's new technique Kyuubi-Sennin Mode they defeated Madara.

Sakura still will get married to a different guy in the end run probably after Sasuke and Naruto reconcile but it won't happen that soon. Hinata's father might threaten Naruto to marry her daughter probably another misunderstanding.

several years passed

We could see a new hero very soon in the Naruto-verse. Child of Naruto. Naruto successfully transferred the 9tails to child of Naruto without the cost of his life thanks to the Kyuubi-Sennin Mode. Everyone is against it but Naruto said Kyuubi won't hurt his son since they have a agreement.

Naruto leads Konoha fight other powerful countries that remain unknown outside their area.

Naruto will get killed by Sasuke's Chidori Kirin (Nature Chidori) to kill the powerful enemy that Naruto lock upon since it's too powerful for both of them. Danzou would take over Konoha after Naruto's demise and held Naruto loyalist in prison others have escaped. But Naruto's body disappeared without a trace. Naruto was shocked to learn he is in some sort of dimension where he met again his father and Grandpa Sarutobi. Both his father and Grandpa Sarutobi can't get out of that dimension and it would be rather pointless since their bodies both diminished seems Naruto is capable of doing so with the Kyuubi Senin Mode which defeated Akatsuki and there some sort of other powerful jutsu inside that dimension far powerful than Naruto would like to teach him a new jutsu if he's willing to train that hard.

Sasuke will train Naruto's child to become powerful like his father at first he gets impatient since Naruto's child is to shy and scared to death. It seems the frogs knows a way to revive Naruto since he still have few Kage Bunshins active in their lair. They would require the rest of other Jinchuuruki's chakra to revive Naruto and gather them all. The 1st tail up to 8th tails have been scattered across the world. And Sakura and the gang been working very hard to collect them without killing the container.

And two years have passed by, everyone is training very hard then the powerful country ever other than Konoha have send 3 powerful ninja's to annihilate Naruto's Konoha. It seems Danzou is not that powerful after all and beaten into rags by one of those three powerful ninja's other get killed until the ones that trained finally came. Kiba, Shikamaru, Neji, Yamato, and Chouji. (Sakura, Sai, and Konohamaru's gang still searching for the Jinchuurukis)

When the training of Sasuke and Naruto's son semi-finished they joined the battle but found out Akamaru and Kiba dead, Yamato dead protecting Shikamaru, Neji and Chouji severely wounded as Shikamaru still can't believe it happened.

Two of the three powerful sent by the most powerful country started attacking Sasuke. As the most powerful of the three seems not moving and let the other two attacking Sasuke. Since it's some sort of stalemate the other one attacked Naruto's son this makes Shikamaru use his last ounce of chakra to stop it. Naruto's son still keep on crying and can't even fight back until Shikamaru finally gave in and collapsed. One of the three is trying to deliver the powerful attack to Naruto's son as Chouji used the powerful medicine even his father and ancestors never used since it would cost their life afterwards and defeated the other one of the three and in return he died with Shikamaru crying. Seems Chouji's sacrifice just put that one in critical condition. One still fighting Sasuke then the 3rd started moving now by firing a powerful chakra energy blast on Naruto's son Shikamaru still getting his ground and powerless to help this makes Sasuke use drastic measures to save the child at the cost of his life. As it get worst than that Naruto finally arrived (after others successfully revived Naruto, seems the Nine Tails didn't leave the boy's body despite his chakra drained by the revival of his father). He use his father's technique to move away the collapsed boy from the battle.

The 3rd one didn't move again and let the 2nd attack Naruto, Naruto seems getting it easy until he used the Sennin Mode and defeated the 2nd one. The 2nd one crawling to the 3rd one to help him out but the 3rd just blast him to death.

Now it's the last ninja vs revived Naruto.

[Corn]

The way I see it, there is only one outcome. Naruto and/or Sasuke will have to die.


How can you people imagine anything else? Reconcile? No way. The entire series is build up around their struggle. as peers, as friends, as ninjas and as rivals. in the end they will have to kill each other, or one will have to die and the other will have to get revenge. it's always revenge.

Kishi won't care because he has plenty of characters like Konohamaru to take over as the next lead...


Kinda how the characters in Dragon Ball GT took over from does in Dragon ball Z...



Also if you look at it in full, The Hokages have gotten worse and worse. The first two where legendary. The Third Hokage was really good, and Orochimaru was supposed to have been next, but he wasen't "ideal" according to the old senile fool, so they had to "settle" with the Fourth hokage. not that he was that good. He couldn't survive the kyuubi.

look at what the first accomplished compared to him.

And Tsunade?`What a loser. The Hokages got worse and worse. Naruto will be the next, but he will die shortly after. The Hokages always die. there is no safety for him. not in this world.

Naruto does not deserve happiness either. He was a product of his enviorment, yes, and he suffered due to the ignorance of the other villagers, but he was also a brat who wanted attention and wanted to Hokage just so people would respect him - not because he was a good person. His selfish reasons was always number one.


I don't think Akatsuki will be the end of it either. Like so many other villains in other stories, these characters are using flawed logic to push toward world domination.



Yamato will die soon. So will Tsunade. They are weak, and can do nothing. Yamato in particular is a joke... a complete talentless joke.

[Kafriel]

Compared to your average ninja (see Iruka) Tsunade is exceptionally strong. The 3rd had the greatest variation of attacks so far, and he took on the "legendary" other two in full power, and topped orochimaru after taking care of them. The 4th was dangerous enough to have a "retreat on sight" command issued on anyone who encountered him, and time-space jutsu is apparently the toughest to learn/master.

He couldn't survive the kyuubi.

which incidentally could lay waste to an entire village with as much as a tail whip.

I don't think Akatsuki will be the end of it either. Like so many other villains in other stories, these characters are using flawed logic to push toward world domination.

That's the point, when Pein sees he was wrong and dies, his part will be over...so that only leaves Madara,who will most likely pick a fight with the thunder country and die when reinforcements arrive.
Sasuke's still a mystery, too many things could happen there.

[Corn]

When the Third fought the First and the Second, they where not at their full power???


The first fought Madara + the Kyuubi without dying.

It just seems like Tsunade and The Fourth wheren't that great?

Maybe Tsunade though has medical skills than the others didn't...


What did The Fouth have then? Orochi was superior. Oro was better than Ero-Sennin also.

[Gamma_Sennin]

Originally Posted by Corn

When the Third fought the First and the Second, they where not at their full power???


The first fought Madara + the Kyuubi without dying.

It just seems like Tsunade and The Fourth wheren't that great?

Maybe Tsunade though has medical skills than the others didn't...


What did The Fouth have then? Orochi was superior. Oro was better than Ero-Sennin also.

Well firstly it never is stated anywhere that the first and 2nd where below full strength... all the first lacked was the ability to control a bijuu as he didnt have access to one... plus defeating the kyuubi is somewhat different that having the power to control it... the first can control bijuu all he want's, but what happens when he has nothing to fight with him? well exactly what happened when Oro summoned him...

Minato is hard to gauge in terms of ability, as he died so young... yet we know he defeated the kyuubi at the cost of his life, without an inherited ability to control it, which is rather impressive.. not to mention he along with madara are the fastest ninja we have seen to date, and J_Man mentioned he was a genius that only comes around once in a generation.......

Also Oro is better than J_Man?... *puts his Jiraiya Fan Boyism aside for a moment* ... Id like to hear exactly why u think btw.. however seeing as he was one hit by Itachi, yet itachi respected J_Man enough not to engage him whilst naruto was with him.. admittedly he was with konoha all along... but then kisame also agreed... Pain mentioned J_Man was capable of defeating him, and if we go by something as fickle as the databooks then he has the highest overall rating along with itachi (which means nothing but yea)... personally I believe Oro is stronger in Genjutsu and variety of jutsu.. yet J_Man's stamina, speed, strength are greater and he has jutsu which are just as powerfull.. Id say there were equal at the peeks of there power.. lastly dont forget J_Man was asked to be Hokage to...

As for tsunade, I wouldn't call her useless, she has just performed something none of the previous hokage could have done, healed and saved an entire village from extinction... and No all the hokage's would have not defeated pain before he blew up.. seeing as they were in the process of gathering information, which is the main reason for his downfall atm, and the only way to defeat him... she might not posses the offensive abilites as a minato, or sarutobi but then she is said to be un-killable in battle with her genisis of rebirth

One last thing.. hokages are getting worse?... well one of the ones coming up will be be stronger than all of them... he's loud, blonde and has a fondness for rasengan watch out for that

[Corn]

Well firstly it never is stated anywhere that the first and 2nd where below full strength... all the first lacked was the ability to control a bijuu as he didnt have access to one... plus defeating the kyuubi is somewhat different that having the power to control it... the first can control bijuu all he want's, but what happens when he has nothing to fight with him? well exactly what happened when Oro summoned him...

I just assumed that. If it really is the way that Sarutobi fought Oro + First + Second, all at full strength, when he was 70 years old.(I recall Oro saying, that he would have won if he was 20 years younger... so ninjas around 50 years old are still in their prime?), then I have a ton of respect for Sarutobis power.

It must have meant though that Sarutobi is not that much older than First and Second. Of course they died young, but Sarutobi probably already was a full fledged Jonin when First Hokage, became the hokage. basically, he was not choosen. Maybe he was to young... or maybe First's wood just made him superior.

Minato is hard to gauge in terms of ability, as he died so young... yet we know he defeated the kyuubi at the cost of his life, without an inherited ability to control it, which is rather impressive.. not to mention he along with madara are the fastest ninja we have seen to date, and J_Man mentioned he was a genius that only comes around once in a generation.......

The question is, if Second or Third would have been any better? They said Second Hokage was equal to first in every way... even if he didn't have wood.
So would Second have been strong enough? Third did nothing! He would have been around 60 years old around the time of Nine-tails. Maybe 4th Hokage was much stronger at that point, or maybe he just wanted to prove himself...
It just seems to me that Third would have been strong enough to defeat it and survive, at 60 years old.

Also Oro is better than J_Man?... *puts his Jiraiya Fan Boyism aside for a moment* ... Id like to hear exactly why u think btw.. however seeing as he was one hit by Itachi, yet itachi respected J_Man enough not to engage him whilst naruto was with him.. admittedly he was with konoha all along... but then kisame also agreed... Pain mentioned J_Man was capable of defeating him, and if we go by something as fickle as the databooks then he has the highest overall rating along with itachi (which means nothing but yea)... personally I believe Oro is stronger in Genjutsu and variety of jutsu.. yet J_Man's stamina, speed, strength are greater and he has jutsu which are just as powerfull.. Id say there were equal at the peeks of there power.. lastly dont forget J_Man was asked to be Hokage to...

I think Itatchi was a smart Ninja who wouldn't fight an impressive opponent unless he really really had to. Smart, and sneaky, Itatchi remains one of the most Ninja-like characters in all of Naruto.

I think Jiraiya in many ways, is an older Naruto. They are both goofy in a way, and misunderstood. The third told Jiraiya to be more like Oro in the old days, which is tragic, but also demonstrates how cool and awesome Jiraiya really is. He is much more than your fictional mentor character.
So I think Jiraiya had hidden talents, and was surprising to many of his enemies and allies... even The Third. Kinda like Naruto. Surprising, and often underrestimated.
I think Jiraiya is not that strong if peasured by strength or as a teacher. I just think he clicked really well with Naruto. Obviously he is a Sannin, and the three Sannin has the same set up as Team 7 had.

Orochimaru/Sasuke(The Born Genius. Everyone expects them to do the best) Nr. 1 Ninja.

Jiraiya/Naruto(Both have been told to be more like, or learn from Oro/Sasuke. Both are misunderstood, and not that strong, but are always able to turn the tide by being underrestimated. Unpredictable-ness is their greatest asset). Nr. 2 Ninja.

Tsunade/Sakura(Strong and hard working and carring, compared to normal Ninja who have different talents in medical jutsu, but not as strong as the two other parts of the group). Nr. 3 Ninja.

One last thing.. hokages are getting worse?... well one of the ones coming up will be be stronger than all of them... he's loud, blonde and has a fondness for rasengan watch out for that

Naruto is a fool. He is a flesh relic of the Kyuubi. He is not good at all. He might be Hokage but he ain't that strong. Maybe he can stand up to Tsunade and weak fools like Yamato(LOL... yamato is weak IMO) but he wont be on par with the first, second or third I think.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by Corn

I just assumed that. If it really is the way that Sarutobi fought Oro + First + Second, all at full strength, when he was 70 years old.(I recall Oro saying, that he would have won if he was 20 years younger... so ninjas around 50 years old are still in their prime?), then I have a ton of respect for Sarutobis power.

It must have meant though that Sarutobi is not that much older than First and Second. Of course they died young, but Sarutobi probably already was a full fledged Jonin when First Hokage, became the hokage. basically, he was not choosen. Maybe he was to young... or maybe First's wood just made him superior.

Spoiler for slight manga spoilers:

Sarutobi was, at most, 10 years old when Hashirama became the first Hokage (Konoha has only been around about 60 years or so (give or take a decade or so)).

Additionally, just based on what was seen during Madara's flashback, it has been heavily specualted that Hashirama (and the 2nd) that fought back in Part I were not as powerful as they were when they were alive (a common theory used to describe why they were not as powerful, deals with the fact that the bodies used to facilitate the technique, were chuunin level at best, and it seems a bit far fetched that a chuunin level body could house the full soul of a Kage level shinobi...but this is just a possible theory ).

[Kafriel]

but he wont be on par with the first, second or third I think.

He smashed a Pain with one hand in a single move and he hasn't used kyuubi powers ever since the incident with orochimaru. He may be predictable and mundane, but he got his own huge chakra reserves and has better control over sage mode. PLUS, he's one of the few ninja who use senjutsu,he knows forbidden techniques (kage bunshin) and SS-rank ones (complete FRS). No mater how much you don't like his personality, you can't shove him off as a weakling.

[Gamma_Sennin]

Originally Posted by Corn

Naruto is a fool. He is a flesh relic of the Kyuubi. He is not good at all. He might be Hokage but he ain't that strong. Maybe he can stand up to Tsunade and weak fools like Yamato(LOL... yamato is weak IMO) but he wont be on par with the first, second or third I think.

Have you been reading the last few chapters? you do realize that he is single handedly taking pain apart body by body... he is super fast, strong, durable, his frog katas catapulting his taijutsu above anything we have seen... has the greatest pool of chakra in the series, and has rasengan variants that are comparable to chidori.. not to mention a throwable FRS which ranks near the top of the high lvl'd jutsu we have seen thus far... to say he is "not good at all" is rather laughable... in many ways ive considered him to be rather overpowered... especially seeing he hasn't even reached anywhere near his full potential... we are yet to see him attempt to control the kyuubi in the same manner as Kirabi and remember he and sasuke are 16?.. it took Oro and J_Man there entire lives to become what they were.. and yet these 2 have surpassed both before they can even drink.. and lastly.. who is to say he isnt stronger than the 1st and 2nd atm? he is being compared to both J_Man and Minato...

[Corn]

Yeah, but I think Madara will screw Naruto up so bad, that Pain will be nothing in the end.

And Madara got screwed over by the first, and since the second was equal to his brother, then how can you make the argument that Naruto would ever be able to reach the first or the second?


Naruto has the advantage of his clone training, and his massive chakra, but what allows him to do that? kyuubi? the natural born genes of his father? No matter how you spin it, Naruto was lucky to get so much handed to him. he suffered during his early childhood, but quickly, got to learn from the most powerful ninjas konoha had.

It' just does not impress me what Naruto is doing. Well, it's admirable that he has gotten stronger, and at a nice rate, but I just feel that Konohamaru or someone elese younger, will take over.

The thing is that, Naruto was about him being hokage and being acknowledged. that's all his goal is. But do you guys see naruto just owning everyone and let that be it? No. I predict that naruto will kick some ass(what he is doing now), and then suddenly Madara will come out of nowhere and kill naruto or completely destroy him. it will be a big omfgbbq plot twist. maybe naruto will be hokage for a little while, because Tsunade is to weak. she won't survive it all. naruto will be hokage and get his wish granted, but gets killed defending the villagers, and thus the circle is continued. he died like the others who all died to defend the village.

it's perfect and it makes sense. still villains to be left alive, and new heroes like Konohamaru to be the next. the current generation of Neji, Lee and the others will become real adults and train the new young shonen heroes so they can power level and get revenge on the evil and uber powerful madara and the few akatsuki that will survive. revenge, power levelling kids and motivation to kill the villains will all be established.


I imagine that Kishi will think it's a good idea, to let Konohamaru and others go through the same training that naruto did, but then he will twist it up, with hamaru, like learning twice as fast as naruto, because he has the blood of the third within him, and so on...



I don't understand how you guys can predict a positive outcome for Naruto. It's written all over him that he is going to die. He is only doing good now, so he can fall extra hard, when the enemies from the shadows come form, and completely destroy him. or something like Sasuke/Akatsuki member, will do something to break the seal and thus unleashing the kyuubi again, which makes naruto having to sacrifice himself to save the village.

Im 100% certain that Naruto is being build up as a martyr. maybe narutos death will make Sasuke change and give him redemption. I agree that its hard to predict sasuke. since we where introduced to him as a kid, he was only so simple as to training and having revenge and fighting strong oppponents.

Naruto is less simple, but in the end he is doomed. I think it will be emotional when Naruto gets killed in a big way.

And I think it's to bad because Konohamaru is a weak annoying character to him. if you have worked with children or know someone who has children who has had a rough life, you can see that the naruto was behaving was very realistic(being a prick to get attention). It's by far one of the most humanistic and true aspects of the entire series, and one that applies a great deal to our lives.

If only more school teachers and parents understood, that kids are products of their enviorments and what they have(and haven't) been exposed to during life. Kids are not evil. the villagers who hated him where just stupid simpleminded people.

[Gamma_Sennin]

Originally Posted by Corn

Yeah, but I think Madara will screw Naruto up so bad, that Pain will be nothing in the end.

And Madara got screwed over by the first, and since the second was equal to his brother, then how can you make the argument that Naruto would ever be able to reach the first or the second?


Naruto has the advantage of his clone training, and his massive chakra, but what allows him to do that? kyuubi? the natural born genes of his father? No matter how you spin it, Naruto was lucky to get so much handed to him. he suffered during his early childhood, but quickly, got to learn from the most powerful ninjas konoha had.

It' just does not impress me what Naruto is doing. Well, it's admirable that he has gotten stronger, and at a nice rate, but I just feel that Konohamaru or someone elese younger, will take over.

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Well firstly madara fought the first 60 odd years ago? You could also argue that an elite ninja doesn't just sit around all day and not progress at all as a ninja, who's to say he isn't stronger now... also I think a big part of shodai's strength was his ability to control the bijuu... which is rather impressive... and seeing as the 2nd doesnt have the ability, then I would venture to say that they are equal to each other in ability outside of the confines of his bijuu hax.. hence why an aging sarutobi defeated them both... in other words, with bijuu he can compete with the madara of his era.. without it from what we have seen, and what we can assume of madara's strength he wouldn't stand a chance... Also minato is said to be the greatest hokage? whether that entails strength is something that many dispute... but remember the name of the person who is surpassing him, is what the show is called

As for naruto dieing... it is a real possibility... however Im more inclined to the notion that naruto dieing will be the end of the manga if it happens... I find it hard to believe they have another timeskip after in which we follow the life of konohamaru-.-

Lets just say that if kishi doesn't find that idea abit crazy.. the editors will definitely laugh at him at the prospect of a minor character who isnt even that popular take the lead... can you say FLOP!

[uzzy11]

I really don't know how is the end, but I enjoy to watch Naruto
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[james0246]

There seems to be some confusion as to what Naruto's Dreams/Goals are: Naruto wishes acknowledgement, but he also wishes to surpass all the previous Hokage. And while Naruto has clearly gained the acknowledgement of the Village, he has not surpassed the Hokage. So, in order to do this, Naruto must complete the various tasks left by the previous Kage.

Spoiler for manga spoilers:

Shodaime - known for his creation of the villages, his fight with Madara, and splitting the Bijuu amongst the villages. In order to surpass the Shodaime, Naruto must Defeat Madara once and for all; create peace amongst the villages; and figure out how to deal with the Bijuu.

Nidaime and Sandaime - Both foolishly let the Uchiha Clan (and arguably the Hyuuga Clan, specifically their use of the Curse Seal) suffer within the village. Consequently, great injustices were performed by and against the clan(s), and in the Uchiha's case, the clan attempted to start a coup which led to their destruction. So, in order to surpass the Nidaime and Sandaime, Naruto must (abolish the Hyuuga Curse Seal and) either destroy the Uchiha Clan for good, or bring them (Sasuke) back.

(Additionally, ROOT was developed during this time, and left unchecked, they now are about to attempt a coup. So, Naruto needs to destroy ROOT/NI as well.)

Yondaime - known for his high powered techniques and his defeat of the Kyuubi. The only way Naruto can surpass the Yondaime is to destroy the Kyuubi...somehow. (Surviving Shiki Fuuin could also technically count as surpassing the Yondaime.)

Godaime - failed to defeat Pain before he could destroy Konoha. To surpass the Godaime, Naruto need only defeat Pain.

Obviously this is a rough list, and some of these details could be false or unneeded for Naruto to surpass his predecessors.

(If it wasn't obvious, I am a Naruto Fan .)

[kimholm]

I wouldn't say that it's written all over him. Maybe Kishi will do a shonen and let him win against all odds. And wouldn't it be stupid to kill the main character to introduce a new one when the name of the serie is Naruto?

[Kafriel]

Naruto won't be a Hokage even if he defeats Pain and Madara and makes over 9000 jutsu. By his own quote,

how can I be a hokage if I can't save a single friend?

So until the whole Sasuke story is over...hey wait, is naruto still officially a genin?

[kimholm]

Well technically he is a genin of sorts. I guess he is a sage, but if it has any impact on his "rank" or not is not really clear.

[Blaine]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Naruto won't be a Hokage even if he defeats Pain and Madara and makes over 9000 jutsu. By his own quote,
So until the whole Sasuke story is over...hey wait, is naruto still officially a genin?

Yes officially naruto is still a genin since he was away with jiraiya for 3 years he never had chance to take the chuunin exam.

[Justin Kim]

Lol Naruto weaker, than Tsunade, and Yamato? I think you might need to read the manga a bit more higher, heck I think Naruto isn't even on par with Sasuke anymore...-_-

[-Sho-]

In the end naruto and sasuke will be like sangoku and vegeta !
Naruto with Hinata : give birth Norauto (Sangoku with Chi-chi : Sangohan )
Sasuke with Sakura : give birth Sousuke (Vegeta with Bulma : Trunk )