Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Discussion & News [Spoilers]

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Gundam 00 is certainly not a train wreck IMO. Sure it has some elements I would have done differently. But so far, I'm enjoying it.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

but yeah, zero discussion value.

Pretty much. Even if the link had information of value, or it expressed points that you wanted to bring up, it'd be much better if you actually posted those points rather than just post a link to someone else's arguments. It'd be even better if you come up with original arguments yourself. Posting stuff to the degree of "Here's what some guy on the internet wrote, what do you think of it?" doesn't accomplish a whole lot.

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Gundam 00 is certainly not a train wreck IMO. Sure it has some elements I would have done differently. But so far, I'm enjoying it.

I have some grave doubts about the show, but I still wouldn't characterize it as a trainwreck. The term has seen so much overuse and etymological mutation that it's all but meaningless nowadays (at least in relation to anime). A more original poster would use different terms to deliver the same message.

[aeriolewinters]

I think 'trainwreck' nowadays means "Show I don't like".I think a true trainwreck is a show that does not have a redeemable value.

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by midnightlumina

I think 'trainwreck' nowadays means "Show I don't like".I think a true trainwreck is a show that does not have a redeemable value.

No. A trainwreck is something that at its base has the potential to really good, but ends up failing epicly in meeting up with that potential and often times ends up the opposite of what it should be. It's like a locomotive that got knocked off the tracks, hence the use of the term "trainwreck".

[Miles Teg]

And for me the good definition of Train Wreck should be something like that “Something so horrible or morbidly fascinating that you can’t help but look on in horror and amusement”

[Levy]

..and for me is only the latest fad of the fandom: conventional word used as some sort of badge for people that take amusement in seeing the fandom go all hyper.
" We call this trainwreck because this will raise arguments and bring on the fun! : D "

I can't bring myself to take 'rage posts' and screams of 'trainwreck!!' too seriously... they might be actually funny sometimes... ^^;
also, the fact that some people do not like something doesn't alter the value of the thing itself in anyway, why should we bother?

[4Tran]

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about the broken link having no news or discussion value. I guess I'm going to have to clarify: this thread is supposed to discuss NEWS about Gundam 00 from official sources. While a blogger may post occasional news items, that doesn't automatically make everything said blogger posts of news value. As such, I removed the chatter.

I'm also going to let the above posts about the definition of "trainwreck" go. I think that they serve as a good indicator of why the phrase is relatively meaningless.

You may now continue with the regularly scheduled programming.

[Nerroth]

Does anyone know what, if anything, the text on the CB logo says?


Most of the pics I've seen are to small for the text to be legible...

[Wuzz]

Reading off a scan from a CD booklet



The Celestial Being are in possession of Mobile Weapon Gun /break/

The Celestial Being are /break/

Mobile Weapon Gundam /break/

Celestial Being are in possession of Mobile Weapon Gundam

[Nerroth]

Oh, I see.


I was kind of hoping for something a little more poetic, but how and ever...

[HazardNights]

Has anyone else not been that interested in Gundam 00 since season 2 started? I really enjoyed season 1 but season 2 has been kinda meh for me. I've watched every episode so far but the direction things took so far has been interesting but as it goes on I find myself less excited and having less of a desire to watch each new episode. I've ended waiting several weeks before going back and watching episodes as a result. Compared to that with season 1 where I even checked out the raws before the subs were released. It held my attention that much.

[brightman]

Originally Posted by HazardNights

Has anyone else not been that interested in Gundam 00 since season 2 started? I really enjoyed season 1 but season 2 has been kinda meh for me. I've watched every episode so far but the direction things took so far has been interesting but as it goes on I find myself less excited and having less of a desire to watch each new episode. I've ended waiting several weeks before going back and watching episodes as a result. Compared to that with season 1 where I even checked out the raws before the subs were released. It held my attention that much.

Its the reverse for me... Season 1, especially in the middle, completely lost my interest and I stopped watching the raw every morning. The much improved scripts, more likeable characters, and more coherent storyline in S2 has managed to keep my attention thus far.

[zgmf-x19a]

There are only 5 episodes left and I'm wondering how they are gonna wrap things up between Setsuna and Graham and also Setsuna / Tiera and Ali and also Setsuna and Marina :s the fights Setsuna had with Ali and Graham didn't really last long which was a shame.I wonder if Setsuna might end up having to kill Louise too to protect himself or any member of Celestial Being

[Seibee]

From Official File 3 and Good Haro:

- Bring and Devine are of the same genetic type.
- Veda has been moved somewhere from the dark side of the moon.
- Anew’s consciousness was sealed off at the beginning, she was unaware that she was a spy.
- Ribbons and the others give Louise special treatment because they want to make her humanity’s first Innovator.
- Sergei, Hercules, and Holly were friends when they were in military academy.

Not much we didn't already know, although it's interesting to note that Veda's been shifted from the moonbase to somewhere unspecified. Maybe the icebergs outside Ribbons' window weren't just his pic of the day?

- Anew’s consciousness was sealed off at the beginning, she was unaware that she was a spy.

Almost totally vindicated. I feel better now. ^_^

[D-KLAC]

well maybe any bets on setsuna vs g.m.b./ali/evil amuro yea very 3 on 1 thing if setsuna pull a "cena" moment.

[C4B0S3]

What i conclude on the last episodes is that Setsuna will be an Innovator himself. Not an Innovator from Ribbons Camp, but like Tieria.

Setsuna has those mutative GN Particles in his body, like Louise. While she get her medicaments from Ribbons, which could have the same effect as the GN-Particles from 00, simply because they both havent died yet and Louise is now an Innovator. In episode 19, Ribbons also said, "that a change is going to happen".
It was stated that the Twin Drive System was foresawn by AS and that he also created Ribbons. So it was indeed his Goal to bring Humanity to a new level. Not as insane innovators, but people that can share thoughts and are all connected to a big computer, Veda (like Wikipedia )

I think Ribbons will beat Setsuna in the last episode, but Graham will help setsuna, because he cannot let his "love" die.

[D-KLAC]

who knows maybe g.m.b. help setsuna rid evil amuro then setsuna vs g.m.b. one more time?

really like do i've say maybe out of nowhere mom-marina will make a trip to space in any of the final 5 eps?

[ragux]

wow the twin drive convert a human in a imnovator, in the final setsuna will use the twin drive to convert the entire wolrd in imnovators

[GundamMeisterLockon]

@ seibee um so anew isn't evil? but how did she know what she was doing and revive said to anew do as we planned which suggests that they planned this b4 hand so i an't so sure if anew is 100% innocent ah well it doesn't matter since she is dead carry on lol

[Dream_Traveller]

Obviously they planned it, shut her consciousness away and waited for the right time to execute the plan.