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Old 2009-03-16, 22:25   Link #281
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Refused, refused, refused.

For this game, the blue words stand for theories only (green is also an option).
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Old 2009-03-16, 22:36   Link #282
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Haruyan... you could have said wrong wrong wrong.

very well.. lets make it easier for you.. Pukukukukuku~

Repeat :

-At the first twilight, there were 6 real corpses altogether, be it found or hidden.
-Maximum number of people in the Guesthouse was 13.
-Number of people in Jessica's room never went above 3 when the second twilight occured.
-Except for the number of survivors in the guesthouse, there were 2 people outside, including Shannon when she went to get the weapons.
-There were 3 humans(can be a corpse) in the boiler room when the corpse was burnt, all 3 are Ushiromiya members.
-Only Maria and Battler was in the locked room, the number never exceeded 2.
-More than 2 people were in the chapel when battler died
-Number of shots fired = 1
-Less than 5 people survived

EDIT: i hope u like the number game =)

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Old 2009-03-16, 22:51   Link #283
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Who do you believe yourself to be, mortal?

- At the first twilight, there were 6 corpses found, there were no corpses hidden.
- There were no less than 12 people in the guest house
- The number of people in Jessica's room is 2+
- After Shannon went outside, the number of people in the house (living and dead) was 11
- When Maria and Battler were locked in the room, the number of people there never exceeded 2
- When Battler died, the number of people in the chapel was 1+
- Number of shots fired +1
- Number of survivors = -2
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:01   Link #284
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ohohoho i like this game Haruyan.. extremely entertaining

Repeat:

-At the first twilight, 6 REAL corpses were found, none were hidden.
-There was no less than 12 people at 11:00am of Oct 5th
-Number of people in Jessica's room was less than 4
-Shannon left, chasing after someone. / -Shannon saw someone before leaving the house. (crap.. this point has nothing to do with numbers.. oh well)
-There was a distance between the culprit and Battler at the chapel.
-The culprit shot more than 1 shots, only 1 hit Battler.

Rosa was the only survivor. Hideyoshi strangled Maria after he killed Natsuhi and was then Killed by Rosa. Kinzo was killed after 11am of Oct 5th. Rudolp was killed and thrown into the boiler.
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:06   Link #285
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-During the first twilight, NO CORPSE WAS HIDDEN
-Battler was killed with one shot
-Number of people in Jessica's room -5


The rest are refused, and your theory is wrong.
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:15   Link #286
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Im confused.. can corpse be faked? and if it can.. does "corpses" in your red truths allow that possibilty?
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:18   Link #287
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The corpses are not faux bodies.
Read the faux body definition.
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:20   Link #288
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Can I join?

There's been a lot of interesting theories so far and it makes me kinda sad that I probably won't match up.;_;

Repeat it in red!

-Kinzo was killed after the 1st twilight corpses were discovered.
-Rosa went along with Eva's plan.
-Eva's plan was last-minute.
-Eva's plan was planned before coming to the island. (eh both ways for more info?@_@)
-Battler was killed immediately after the photo was taken.
-Genji is still Kinzo's most trusted servant.
-Krauss never left the island a week before the family conference.
-Jessica had an asthma attack while she was with Kanon upstairs.

Bah.
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:20   Link #289
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corpse =/= faux bodies.. very well..

OMG! Does this means.. No one from the first twilight.. was the culprit? OMG!!
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:22   Link #290
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FIREwing, yes you can join.

-Kinzo was killed after
the 1st twilight corpses were discovered.
-Eva's plan was planned before coming to the island.
-Battler was killed immediately after the photo was taken.
-Genji is still Kinzo's most trusted servant.
-Krauss never left the island a week before the family conference.
AS STATED BEFORE, JESSICA DID NOT HAVE AN ASTHMA ATTACK
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:29   Link #291
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Wait... Does Corpse = People faking death?

Anyways repeat:

-The 6 corpses found during the first twilight were Kumasawa, Kyrie, Krauss, Eva, Rosa and George
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:31   Link #292
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The 6 corpses found during the first twilight were Kumasawa, Kyrie, Eva, Rosa, Krauss and George.

Faux body is any kind of body (resembling a human body), of any kind of material (wood, wax, plastic, etc.) that is NOT human.

People pretending to be dead do NOT fall in the faux body cathegory.
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:48   Link #293
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Corpse =/= Faux body

Faux body =/= Faked deaths

therefore... a Corpse can be a faked death ...

So it still has a possibility that the culprit is from the first twilight.

Repeat:

-Eva's motive wasnt about the 10 tonnes of gold

Lets replay the number game:

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-Number of people in the shed = 1
-Number of people in the shed and the garden = 1
-Number of alive people in the mansion when Shannon died was no more than 2
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:52   Link #294
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People in the shed = 1
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Old 2009-03-16, 23:59   Link #295
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-people around the shed =1

I think i exhausted the parts about numbers.

-Kyrie, Krauss and Kumasawa were alone when they were attacked

Define attacked. Does it have to succeed?

Anyways, Krauss, Kyrie and Kumasawa must be dead then.

Repeat:

-Shannon only conversed with George on the Night of oct 4th
-Nobody talked to Kinzo on the Night of oct 4th
-Shannon retired after talking with George
-George retired after talking with Shannon
-George talked with someone else after that
-Eva was attacked
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Old 2009-03-17, 00:02   Link #296
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So only Hideyoshi, Genji, Nanjo ffff. Lack of sleep. I meant Rudolf.. Hideyoshi, Rudolf or Maria could possibly be one of the survivors. Also, blue txt is for theories that need judgement right?

Repeat it in red!

-Godha was killed before the 2nd twilight corpses were discovered.
-Shannon obeys all orders.
-Battler never submitted to the "Beatrice that Maria speaks of at the chapel".
-Kinzo left his study due to one of the 18. (In any way, either by begging him or if they're in danger)
-Maria's "Beatrice" was dressed to look like her.
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Old 2009-03-17, 00:02   Link #297
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Nobody talked to Kinzo on the Night of oct 4th

'rest are refused.

Attacked - definite attempt to hurt, kill or otherwise.
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Old 2009-03-17, 00:05   Link #298
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so its just an attempt.

very well..

State !!

-Krauss, Kyrie, Kumasawa and George no longer Physically existed after the first twilight
-Kinzo was still alive on the first twlight
-Eva's plan never succeeded because she no longer physically existed after the game
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Old 2009-03-17, 00:07   Link #299
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-Kinzo was still alive on the first twlight

And wth with the physically disapeared?
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Old 2009-03-17, 00:10   Link #300
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erm.. no longer physically existed means they absolutely died. They did not faked their deaths.. just died.

Alright..

i just thought of this:

-Kanon and Jessica were not Knocked out.
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