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Nerroth · 2009-04-05, 12:20

No a bad ep at all - and having been used to watching the English dub the last time around, it was interesting to hear the Japanese cast!

(I like how some of the VAs make the effort to sound different based on the role - I heard little of Regene in Ed's voice, and ditto for Nena/Shana/etc in Al's, for example - but that others like Shinichiro Miki can use the exact same voice in every series and still sound awesome!)

And as regards Lust... I guess it us just as well that Sanae-san had Akki to eat her bread in a parallel universe!

Oh, and who were the VAs voicing Maes' wife and daughter?

bayoab · 2009-04-05, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooral

What I meant was that visuals and sound don't compliment each other and are out of synch. And as Littm mentioned animation isn't too great.

I don't want to get a warn for posting too many images so here:
http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/0149...5d5f5c416dd05/

My personal favourite screenshot from the opening:

You watched a copy that was encoded and IVTCd incorrectly. There should be no ghosting at all in the opening. The lyrics and visuals match up extremely well too.

Kitsu · 2009-04-05, 12:31

I like it, but I've saw better. It did have that nostalgia feeling which of course is a plus. It's FMA you just have to like it. The voices are fine with me...okay I need to get used to Roy. His voice changed did it? The animation was most of the time quite good.
But I'm a little worried about Winry...did she had a seizure attack in the OP or wtf was that? But I liked the OP Animation dunno why, the timing quite good. And the scene in which we see Ed and Al lose the bodie(Parts) was great... And I thinkthe whole episode is a little bit to foreshadowing.

Kirku · 2009-04-05, 12:33

I loved it! Ed and Al ftw! The first Full Metal Alchemist was one of my favorite Animes, but the way this is already starting it, it looks like this version might be even better

Sundays can't come fast enough now lol.

Zu Ra · 2009-04-05, 12:41

Luckily FMA airs on Sunday so something for the weekends now that Gundam is over . I will have a detailed post later but before that, had to say 2 things

1st its awesome Shinichiro Miki is voicing Roy Mustang. I was like hell yeah man !!!

2nd the animation in the op has come out really nice . At first I felt the track was too slow but later it grew on me

Gooral · 2009-04-05, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayoab

You watched a copy that was encoded and IVTCd incorrectly. There should be no ghosting at all in the opening. The lyrics and visuals match up extremely well too.

I don't think so. Watch opening frame by frame and you should be seeing it too.

What I meant by out of synch is: melody doesn't add up to the scenes that we see !!! I don't know how describe it better in English. Example of opening with good visual & sound synchronization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nch8lwnEfA
Melody fits to what we actually see.

Another example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLBPKf7mT8

Archer · 2009-04-05, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooral

I don't think so. Watch opening frame by frame and you should be seeing it too.

What I meant by out of synch is: melody doesn't add up to the scenes that we see !!! I don't know how describe it better in English. Example of opening with good visual & sound synchronization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nch8lwnEfA
Melody fits to what we actually see.

Another example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLBPKf7mT8

You have a bad RAW, plain and simple. It's only just you.

aardvark · 2009-04-05, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooral

I don't think so. Watch opening frame by frame and you should be seeing it too.

What I meant by out of synch is: melody doesn't add up to the scenes that we see !!! I don't know how describe it better in English. Example of opening with good visual & sound synchronization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nch8lwnEfA
Melody fits to what we actually see.

Another example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLBPKf7mT8

The picture you posted is a result of the TV capture

When you see the OP on the DVD or Blu-Ray, you will not see such a thing.

Even so, what is your point with the picture? Are you trying to imply its bad animation? Because it isn't.

quigonkenny · 2009-04-05, 13:00

All I've got to say is that anyone who has problems with the animation quality is doing something wrong. The animation was absolutely gorgeous. This series will be epic on blu-ray.

That said, if anyone had any problem with the character designs, I understand (but disagree), and Roy's and Hawkeye's seiyuu (while good) are going to take some getting used to.

But there's no reason to troll if you're upset for some reason. Listing your problems with the episode is certainly understandable, but using your disappointment as an excuse to toss out unnecessary spoilers and try to ruin it for everyone else is just straight up trolling...

But I can't get over how beautiful this animation is. I hope they keep it up.

Terrestrial Dream · 2009-04-05, 13:04

Really glad to see FMA anime back, nice first episode imo. I glad that it was original anime story and it was interesting story as well. I liked the overall action of this episode right pace and great animation. And I still love the Ed being short gag always make me laugh also Armstrong's gag as well.
If this is the quality that is going to come in the future well then I think this anime could be quite amazing.

The Avatar · 2009-04-05, 13:10

I liked it, the animation was great and the voice acting was stellar. I will have to get used to Lockon/Mustang though.

I am a little disappointed however. I don't know maybe it was some of my expectations or my memories of the first series or that I already knew a lot of spoilers about characters and events because of the last series but this episode didn't seem like a great first episode. I'm going to try to dig up my old dvd's to refresh my memory but I feel that the first episode of the first series was better than this one. My opinion might change after I rewatch the last seres first ep though. Still not a bad start for the new Fullmetal Alchemist.

Terrestrial Dream · 2009-04-05, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooral

You've got to be kidding me! This episode was total disaster. Lots of fireworks and condensed story. I didn't like anything. Opening is poor (both visual and sound), although lyrics are good. Plot is one big filler, water alchemist that can't be defeated by Ed and Al working together and is killed with one Bradley's slash (this is a big spoiler and example of poor writing). What's more we had had standard shounen moment, after mentioning human transmutation Ed suddeny gains advantage... And WTF was with Kimblee's comment when Isaac died? How did he know that? What annoys me the most though is choice of seiyuu.

This episode is basically a special/bonus episode for people who watched FMA before and people who are reading the manga. And those things are not bad writing, Ed did not power up or anything. Instead Ed winning set the mood of his anger and it showed how angry he was over his mentioning of human transmutation, would t make sense to see Ed angry and losing? And Bradley killing Issac is not a spoiler it is called foreshadowing and not a example of foreshadowing. Also it is implied that Kimble knew about Issac's defeat because the stone disappeared.
Damn even in FMA forum there are people who nip picks flaws and think it is bad writing.

Nerroth · 2009-04-05, 13:15

Oh, and I forgot to mention - the little face on the end of Ed's weapon was hilarious!

Zu Ra · 2009-04-05, 13:18

Though this episode wasn't spectacular I am satisfied. Never knew how the 20 minutes flew by .

Souryu · 2009-04-05, 13:21

And...

MAJOR SPOILERS FROM THE MANGA

Spoiler:

bayoab · 2009-04-05, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerroth

Oh, and I forgot to mention - the little face on the end of Ed's weapon was hilarious!

I'm guessing we'll be seeing news from a JP company that decides to turn that into a real item soon... either a bat or a dildo.

Nerroth · 2009-04-05, 13:24

Ok, now I'm liking the idea less.

Cheers for that...

Terrestrial Dream · 2009-04-05, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerroth

Ok, now I'm liking the idea less.

Cheers for that...

That is an awesome idea... of course I am talking about the bat

Nerroth · 2009-04-05, 13:26

Well, I suppose based on the end of that episode, there'd be at least one person who'd make a pre-order...

Sheba · 2009-04-05, 13:33

Late in the FMA train, I actually only watched fragments of the episodes of the first series here and there, and Shambala movie in full.

The first episode did a fine job to introduce me to most of the main cast. Action and choregraphy of mentioned action was rather neat, it was all good to me. Count me in as one who will follow the train.

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2009-04-05, 12:20	Link #101
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 44	No a bad ep at all - and having been used to watching the English dub the last time around, it was interesting to hear the Japanese cast! (I like how some of the VAs make the effort to sound different based on the role - I heard little of Regene in Ed's voice, and ditto for Nena/Shana/etc in Al's, for example - but that others like Shinichiro Miki can use the exact same voice in every series and still sound awesome!) And as regards Lust... I guess it us just as well that Sanae-san had Akki to eat her bread in a parallel universe! Oh, and who were the VAs voicing Maes' wife and daughter? __________________

2009-04-05, 12:31	Link #103
Kitsu The unlucky one Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hiding	I like it, but I've saw better. It did have that nostalgia feeling which of course is a plus. It's FMA you just have to like it. The voices are fine with me...okay I need to get used to Roy. His voice changed did it? The animation was most of the time quite good. But I'm a little worried about Winry...did she had a seizure attack in the OP or wtf was that? But I liked the OP Animation dunno why, the timing quite good. And the scene in which we see Ed and Al lose the bodie(Parts) was great... And I thinkthe whole episode is a little bit to foreshadowing. Last edited by Kitsu; 2009-04-05 at 12:46.

2009-04-05, 12:41	Link #105
Zu Ra ✖ ǝʇ ɯıqnɾl ☆ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mortuary : D	Luckily FMA airs on Sunday so something for the weekends now that Gundam is over . I will have a detailed post later but before that, had to say 2 things 1st its awesome Shinichiro Miki is voicing Roy Mustang. I was like hell yeah man !!! 2nd the animation in the op has come out really nice . At first I felt the track was too slow but later it grew on me __________________

2009-04-05, 13:00	Link #109
quigonkenny Sav'aaq! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hyrule Age: 51	All I've got to say is that anyone who has problems with the animation quality is doing something wrong. The animation was absolutely gorgeous. This series will be epic on blu-ray. That said, if anyone had any problem with the character designs, I understand (but disagree), and Roy's and Hawkeye's seiyuu (while good) are going to take some getting used to. But there's no reason to troll if you're upset for some reason. Listing your problems with the episode is certainly understandable, but using your disappointment as an excuse to toss out unnecessary spoilers and try to ruin it for everyone else is just straight up trolling... But I can't get over how beautiful this animation is. I hope they keep it up. __________________ FGO Info: (JP) 055835281 \| クワイガンケニー ==== (EN) 952525630 \| quigonkenny

2009-04-05, 12:33	Link #104
Kirku Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008	I loved it! Ed and Al ftw! The first Full Metal Alchemist was one of my favorite Animes, but the way this is already starting it, it looks like this version might be even better Sundays can't come fast enough now lol.

2009-04-05, 13:04	Link #110
Terrestrial Dream 勇者 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tesla Leicht Institute Age: 34	Really glad to see FMA anime back, nice first episode imo. I glad that it was original anime story and it was interesting story as well. I liked the overall action of this episode right pace and great animation. And I still love the Ed being short gag always make me laugh also Armstrong's gag as well. If this is the quality that is going to come in the future well then I think this anime could be quite amazing. __________________

2009-04-05, 13:10	Link #111
The Avatar The Avatar of Death Join Date: Dec 2005	I liked it, the animation was great and the voice acting was stellar. I will have to get used to Lockon/Mustang though. I am a little disappointed however. I don't know maybe it was some of my expectations or my memories of the first series or that I already knew a lot of spoilers about characters and events because of the last series but this episode didn't seem like a great first episode. I'm going to try to dig up my old dvd's to refresh my memory but I feel that the first episode of the first series was better than this one. My opinion might change after I rewatch the last seres first ep though. Still not a bad start for the new Fullmetal Alchemist.

2009-04-05, 13:15	Link #113
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 44	Oh, and I forgot to mention - the little face on the end of Ed's weapon was hilarious! __________________

2009-04-05, 13:18	Link #114
Zu Ra ✖ ǝʇ ɯıqnɾl ☆ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mortuary : D	Though this episode wasn't spectacular I am satisfied. Never knew how the 20 minutes flew by . __________________

2009-04-05, 13:21	Link #115
Souryu nothing at all... Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 38	And... MAJOR SPOILERS FROM THE MANGA Spoiler: even if you don't like this first episode, no worries, since the first episode of the first will eventually show in the series, since Lior appear more than once in the manga. Maybe they will cut the whole train highjack thing though.

2009-04-05, 13:24	Link #117
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 44	Ok, now I'm liking the idea less. Cheers for that... __________________

2009-04-05, 13:26	Link #119
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 44	Well, I suppose based on the end of that episode, there'd be at least one person who'd make a pre-order... __________________

2009-04-05, 13:33	Link #120
Sheba Shitpost Gremlin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	Late in the FMA train, I actually only watched fragments of the episodes of the first series here and there, and Shambala movie in full. The first episode did a fine job to introduce me to most of the main cast. Action and choregraphy of mentioned action was rather neat, it was all good to me. Count me in as one who will follow the train.