2009-05-28, 08:29 | Link #2742 | |
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2009-05-28, 08:37 | Link #2743 |
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If a war is fought, it would be for unification. The destruction of the N.Korean communist party is probably the only way to permanent peace. The Chinese are also fed up over this "ally" of theirs.
Like I said, everything will be on the table. The US/S.Korean alliance would do well to inform China beforehand, so that the Chinese would be able to stop N. Koreans from flooding the border. If the Chinese could be assured of future deals with the new Korea, we can expect a two front war, which could be the way to go.
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2009-05-28, 08:44 | Link #2745 |
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Yes. Dealing with the devil (china) could help, but the aftermath will be a problem. North Korean civil society is built around the dear leader. When that rat's gone, they will have to be built from the ground up. The south will ultimately be unable to bear rehabilitating the North on its own. That's why unification is out. It's better to set up a temporary UN administration in any post-war North Korea.
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2009-05-28, 08:48 | Link #2746 |
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The choice is reunification, or Chinese intrusion into N.Korean territory. The nationalist backlash against China could hold this new old country together. They have been together longer than they have been apart.
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2009-05-28, 14:21 | Link #2749 | |
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NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR THREAT / Should Japan possess an attack capability?
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There seems to be no other alternative to North Korea's nuclear threats as of now when taking a realistic approach to the issue. Possessing nuclear bombs aren't necessary, however as that true military conflicts should never include nuclear weapons as that. Pre-emptive attacks had existed even before the Sengoku era, it has nothing to do with Bush and his copycat tactics. |
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2009-05-28, 14:32 | Link #2751 | |
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2009-05-28, 14:40 | Link #2752 | |
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Aso, Hatoyama fail to shine in debate
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Nations that use nukes during military conflicts are somewhat cheating as that they don't need careful strategic planning, tactics, military technology and fighting capability. All they do is launch some nuclear warheads or drop them off from typical jet fighters. The battle ends in minutes. Most unfortunately, nukes target civilians more than the military and this questions its existence in the first place as that it is in fact an inappropriate deterrent. |
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2009-05-28, 14:54 | Link #2753 | |
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2009-05-28, 16:56 | Link #2755 | |
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Through the formation of six-party talks, it is well-known that the involved five nations are to support North Korea financially and provide them with necessary technology to aid their survival if they were to abolish their nuclear complexes but instead.. They decided to build nukes and test missiles, for what purpose does it serve to perform hostile actions? Its not that I can hardly fault North Korea's reasoning but that North Korea have absolutely no legitimate reasoning to begin with. |
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2009-05-28, 16:58 | Link #2756 |
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That's infuriating enough, but what's more infuriating is that the "rational" nation-states are more than willing to put up with it (the unreason) . (i.e Sunshine Policy, food and fuel by the truckloads etc).
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2009-05-28, 17:00 | Link #2757 | |
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If a paranoid state on the verge of collapse, convinced that its enemies are about to strike, wants to ward off any threat of military invasion, what better way than nuclear weapons? Anyway, the blame for the collapse of the Agreed Framework lies partly with the US. The closest North Korea came to opening up was under Clinton. |
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2009-05-28, 18:17 | Link #2758 | |||
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Not every paranoid state on the verge of collapse may possess nukes at the time of happening and in that case, what action will the leaders of those particular nations decide? First, they should keep their diplomatic channels open and prepare to engage to communication with their enemies as that most nations aside from a few peculiar ones (not going to point fingers) are always hoping to avoid needless bloodshed and thus, peace treaties are always formed whenever it is necessary. Most nations would never attack an enemy if they do not have the will to fight as it hurts the pride and honor of the attacker as if they are the villians even though it may not be the case. For that matter, a better method of deterrent to nukes would be diplomacy that involves peace treaties and cease-fire agreements. Quote:
1) they do not have enough troops as that too many of them are already deployed to the Middle East, 2) they do not have sufficient military fundings as that American citizens are already sick and tired of the Iraq War and they do not support or approve any further military conflicts that would harm the already collapsing American economy, and 3) with China acting as North Korea's main veto-wielder backer, the US would not want to offend this rival/enemy of theirs as that China is a nation to be feared because they have the guts to sacrifice those treasury debts of theirs to accomplish some long-term goals and if that's the case, the US economy will take a severe blow and the Americans will no longer be the leading nations in the world to maintain balance and order globally as that they won't be capable of doing so. More importantly, the United States cannot do anything in terms of coming up with a UNSC resolution that has "teeth" as long as one or more of veto-wielders don't support it, it will not get passed deeming their actions useless. And thus, North Korea has one great opportunity to carry out their ambitions that consist of primarily a nuclear threat to the national security of Japan as that they are most likely to fire their missiles and nukes at Japan rather than any other nation. Chances are they will try to avoid hitting South Korea as that they would like to control the territory for themselves, gaining access to a large sum of cash flow; Korea Republic's economy is much greater than that of DPRK. Supposedly, North Korea would also attack the States but for now, they don't have the sufficient capability to do so with the exception of Hawaii as that is closest to their target range. And thus, the blame of the agreed framework has nothing to do with any nation as that the agreed framework was trash to begin with; it was merely something China came up with to stall time which benefits everybody as that nobody want to be involved with a military conflict or sour bilateral ties with the problematic North Korea, yet at the same time.. Nobody wishes the collapse of their regime as that their citizens may end up as immigrants that feed on the economy of others. In other words, regardless of the administration or leadership of the United States, it does not matter when it comes to dealing with North Korea as that things are proceeding the way it should have been, no matter how you look at it even from different perspectives. North Korea's actions are most likely predicted and it happened just the right timing too. |
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2009-05-28, 20:46 | Link #2759 |
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After the Civil War, the South was devastated and now everyone respects each other.
After WWII, those crazy Europeans become reasonable beings again. Etc... See: if the destruction is great enough, the aftermath is always brighter. Those yearn for hell mostly have no idea what hell is. Why not let them taste a bit of it? I bet a couple of nukes would bring those people to their sense. At this rate, the world is only trying to avoid the inevitable. |
2009-05-28, 21:34 | Link #2760 | ||
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Well it was the capital of one of the three kingdom, Goguryeo, which was the strongest kingdom and controlled even Manchuria.
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