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Ekul · 2009-07-13, 18:05

Honestly, three years of expectations take their toll. I remember waiting like, three years for Super Smash Brothers Brawl to come out. Oh, it was great and all, but it just didn't live up to my expectations. Just like when Haruhi couldn't wait to go to High School to meet John Smith, it can't possibly be as good as we thought. Maybe that's what they're doing, just like they're trying to show us how irritated Nagato can be, they're trying to show how Haruhi's expectations were let down! /optimism

Oh crap, that applies to the light novel too doesn't it?

Ithekro · 2009-07-13, 18:13

What I find interesting is the number of auto "1" responces, before people actually saw the episode. Responces based on the simple fact that the loop repeats again without a resolve. Yet the actual episode is well done. I gave it an average because of the loops and several stills, but otherwise the episode if good.

Jaden · 2009-07-13, 18:16

Could tweak the OP lyrics a bit if the authors really wanted to troll people. Week by week, unzari da yo ne?

OverMaster · 2009-07-13, 18:20

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Originally Posted by fish eric

Does anyone want to talk about the episode? Im bored with the whole like/dislike that its still a loop. Its been 45 pages now. Some like it some hate it.

The loop is all there is to it, so until there is something actually new, we can't discuss anything new.

panzerfan · 2009-07-13, 18:24

Perhaps the very act that is defined as trolling comes from the fact that all of these episodes, despite its very same plot for the last 3 and some variation in the original one are all animated from scratch is so revolting that...

those that wanted to fault the animation firm for rehashing the 'same' animation over and over again are now in turn getting a thumb up the nose by this act, leading them to vote an automatic 1 out of indignation and spite...

and those wanting to see a conclusion finding themselves back in the same place over the maze, only to be presented in a different shade of color, leading them to vote an automatic 1 out of frustration and mockery...

while those wanting consistency is finding variation of this magnitude so distasteful that the entire palate is soured, leading them to vote an automatic 1 out of rejection and bias...

as for those that as inherently intolerant or unaccepting of the animation firm or the story for whatever reason, there is all the more reason to vote an automatic 1 out of steadfast belief of their own principle...

now for those seeking a reason to find certain thing of worth out of the story, this recursion might yield little to nothing for them, leading them to vote an automatic 1 out of emptiness an unentertaining.... suck in another word.

With no doubt, this personal musing falls short, but those are what I can summarize as a subset of why 1's are handed out so liberally. I wish I can get a better summary than this nevertheless.

I will repeat Tomo's chant again for magnumcyclonex:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomo, Azumanga Daioh

today's the first day of the school term, today's the first day of the school term...
today's the first day of the school term, today's the first day of the school term...
(hahahahaha)
the summer vacation will continue... let's go together to the blue ocean,
crack that watermelon open~ Beach volleyball is fun~ (repeat)

O sweet irony, what cruel mistress thou art.

magnumcyclonex · 2009-07-13, 18:40

I'd like an Endless Summer Vacation. Wouldn't we all? But I do hope that we don't have to watch anymore variations.

Malkuth · 2009-07-13, 19:05

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Originally Posted by fish eric

Does anyone want to talk about the episode?

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Originally Posted by OceanBlue

We already have. For 3 weeks.

So true!

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

At this rate, the next episode's poll should have a question about "Are you going to drop the show?"

Come on, no one will drop, we will just wait for E8 to end and then resume watching the actual show, instead of the failed artistic and monetary adventures of KyoAni and Kadokawa

Ithekro · 2009-07-13, 19:08

It has been years, but Tomo is still relevent...as is Osaka.

And somehow I doubt Chiyo-chan's motivation method will work here either. (Yomi's method will work)

Mint Kashiro · 2009-07-13, 19:17

I personally voted a 1 because I am incredibly bored and unsatisfied with how they're handling this. Sure, I didn't watch the whole episode, but that's because I don't have to. I've seen the episode before, and seeing it in a slightly different way doesn't make it any more interesting unless there's a conclusion to it. I'm also upset that I'm probably going to wind up buying the dvds anyways and therefore paying for 4-5 episodes that are essentially the exact same thing. I know I won't be rewatching these episodes anytime soon.

Malkuth · 2009-07-13, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Mint Kashiro

I personally voted a 1 because I am incredibly bored and unsatisfied with how they're handling this. Sure, I didn't watch the whole episode, but that's because I don't have to. I've seen the episode before, and seeing it in a slightly different way doesn't make it any more interesting unless there's a conclusion to it. I'm also upset that I'm probably going to wind up buying the dvds anyways and therefore paying for 4-5 episodes that are essentially the exact same thing. I know I won't be rewatching these episodes anytime soon.

Then why buy them? I guess it is this kind of attitude that drives studios to defy the audience.

In my case E8 removed Haruhi from my BD list.

Ruezu · 2009-07-13, 19:28

I'm afraid of summer vacations now, please do end

Mint Kashiro · 2009-07-13, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkuth

Then why buy them? I guess it is this kind of attitude that drives studios to defy the audience.

In my case E8 removed Haruhi from my BD list.

I'll probably wind up buying the rest of the season if it is good, and I like having the full set. =( If the rest of the season is a let down though, I won't buy any of it.

Shadow Kira01 · 2009-07-13, 19:47

Ignoring the fact that this is a different variation of the past few episodes, it is actually pretty good. Thus, it deserves a good rating.

However, I happen to share the same pain as Nagato of witnessing the same time loop over and over again. Thus, I got to say that I am actually slightly annoyed. From the looks of the scores and the reviews, it seems that other people are a lot more annoyed and unhappy about it. So many "1" scores...

SealkidHaruhiism · 2009-07-13, 20:04

The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya part 00

Spoiler:

Lost-Wisdom · 2009-07-13, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruezu

I'm afraid of summer vacations now, please do end

I encourage it to continue. Let it go on for up to 8 episodes. Like it intended from the title "Endless Eight".

I wouldn't mind, at least they're reanimating everything. Though I wish the still shots would disappear.

Dakota · 2009-07-13, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SealkidHaruhiism

The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya part 00

Spoiler:

Ok, I see you post all the time, I thought you were just being loud and obnoxious, but this is the funniest thing you have ever posted in your entire life.

Mushi · 2009-07-13, 20:46

I'll buy the DVDs just for the auteur nature of this arc. I see it as a bold stroke.

TinyRedLeaf · 2009-07-13, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mushi

I'll buy the DVDs just for the auteur nature of this arc. I see it as a bold stroke.

Aye, indeed. I recall how the studio tested everyone's patience back in Lucky Star with multiple live-action episodes of Minoru Shiraishi singing — very, very badly. It takes guts to give your fans a massive finger and still have them worshipping at your doors.

As for the venting of frustrations by so-called trolls, for once, I have not much sympathy for fans who still try valiantly to defend this arc. I'm not criticising its production quality, by the way, which is quite above average. But you are meant to be annoyed and very, very angry. So don't be a pandering fanboy. Let it rip. That's what the producers expect you to do.

OkamiNoKaze · 2009-07-13, 21:28

Yeah but in the case of Lucky Star, at least that was the credits, and didn't really effect the show itself much. I heard more complaints however about the Lucky Channel segment, then the live action singing.

TinyRedLeaf · 2009-07-13, 21:36

^ Well, then, one could say that KyoAni has taken self-referential mockery to an all-new high. The vicious satire is brilliant to behold. They're deliberately behaving like hedonistic rock stars, supremely confident that no matter what they do, the fans would still come crawling to beg for more.

So RAGE, my dear Haruhi fans, RAGE. Doing otherwise would only make us much more pathetic than we already are.

View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 05 Rating
Perfect 10	54	13.99%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	20	5.18%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	23	5.96%
7 out of 10 : Good	25	6.48%
6 out of 10 : Average	27	6.99%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	16	4.15%
4 out of 10 : Poor	10	2.59%
3 out of 10 : Bad	8	2.07%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	7	1.81%
1 out of 10 : Painful	196	50.78%
Voters: 386. You may not vote on this poll

2009-07-13, 18:13	Link #922
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 47	What I find interesting is the number of auto "1" responces, before people actually saw the episode. Responces based on the simple fact that the loop repeats again without a resolve. Yet the actual episode is well done. I gave it an average because of the loops and several stills, but otherwise the episode if good. __________________

2009-07-13, 19:08	Link #928
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 47	It has been years, but Tomo is still relevent...as is Osaka. And somehow I doubt Chiyo-chan's motivation method will work here either. (Yomi's method will work) __________________

2009-07-13, 19:28	Link #931
Ruezu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	I'm afraid of summer vacations now, please do end __________________ ~Robo

2009-07-13, 20:46	Link #937
Mushi Hopeless Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: On bended knee asking Belldandy to marry me	I'll buy the DVDs just for the auteur nature of this arc. I see it as a bold stroke. __________________

2009-07-13, 18:05	Link #921
Ekul Transdimensional phoenix Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Trash Can	Honestly, three years of expectations take their toll. I remember waiting like, three years for Super Smash Brothers Brawl to come out. Oh, it was great and all, but it just didn't live up to my expectations. Just like when Haruhi couldn't wait to go to High School to meet John Smith, it can't possibly be as good as we thought. Maybe that's what they're doing, just like they're trying to show us how irritated Nagato can be, they're trying to show how Haruhi's expectations were let down! /optimism Oh crap, that applies to the light novel too doesn't it?

2009-07-13, 18:16	Link #923
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Could tweak the OP lyrics a bit if the authors really wanted to troll people. Week by week, unzari da yo ne?

2009-07-13, 18:40	Link #926
magnumcyclonex Cyclone Magnum Join Date: Apr 2004	I'd like an Endless Summer Vacation. Wouldn't we all? But I do hope that we don't have to watch anymore variations.

2009-07-13, 19:17	Link #929
Mint Kashiro Member Join Date: Nov 2007	I personally voted a 1 because I am incredibly bored and unsatisfied with how they're handling this. Sure, I didn't watch the whole episode, but that's because I don't have to. I've seen the episode before, and seeing it in a slightly different way doesn't make it any more interesting unless there's a conclusion to it. I'm also upset that I'm probably going to wind up buying the dvds anyways and therefore paying for 4-5 episodes that are essentially the exact same thing. I know I won't be rewatching these episodes anytime soon.

2009-07-13, 19:47	Link #933
Shadow Kira01 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: PMB Headquarters	Ignoring the fact that this is a different variation of the past few episodes, it is actually pretty good. Thus, it deserves a good rating. However, I happen to share the same pain as Nagato of witnessing the same time loop over and over again. Thus, I got to say that I am actually slightly annoyed. From the looks of the scores and the reviews, it seems that other people are a lot more annoyed and unhappy about it. So many "1" scores...

2009-07-13, 20:04	Link #934
SealkidHaruhiism Haruhi Suzumiya rules!! Join Date: May 2009	The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya part 00 Spoiler:

2009-07-13, 21:28	Link #939
OkamiNoKaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	Yeah but in the case of Lucky Star, at least that was the credits, and didn't really effect the show itself much. I heard more complaints however about the Lucky Channel segment, then the live action singing. __________________

2009-07-13, 21:36	Link #940
TinyRedLeaf Moving in circles Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 49	^ Well, then, one could say that KyoAni has taken self-referential mockery to an all-new high. The vicious satire is brilliant to behold. They're deliberately behaving like hedonistic rock stars, supremely confident that no matter what they do, the fans would still come crawling to beg for more. So RAGE, my dear Haruhi fans, RAGE. Doing otherwise would only make us much more pathetic than we already are.