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Old 2009-07-16, 07:05   Link #961
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There is no absolute truth.
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Old 2009-07-16, 07:19   Link #962
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i see soo it another 50:50 rumor

o well i havent palyed much this month since its midterm month Y_Y
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Old 2009-07-16, 07:26   Link #963
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There are a lot of people that are just late, since DotA is very volatile. Simple example, people still hype over old heroes that have been nerfed to oblivion a long time ago, so take everything with a grain of salt.
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Old 2009-07-16, 07:40   Link #964
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whaaaa. the new version's a little confusing! and i agree razor's like storm spirit now! haha.. ♥
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Old 2009-07-16, 08:09   Link #965
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wow.. I haven't played that game for so long.. I played just a while ago and won 4 games straight..

Tauren Chieftain = Imba
Pipe of Insight = Raijin's former Barrier Skill
Vengeful + Aghanim = Imba swaps..
Viper + Force Staff = no escape
Stygwyr + Force Staff = oh noes!
Enchantress + Force Staff + Pipe of Insight + Shiva = Immortality..
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Old 2009-07-16, 08:37   Link #966
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is it me or am i finding kardel a bit more less usefull on int type heroes???
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Old 2009-07-16, 09:03   Link #967
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Kardel is useless against most int heroes in the lane most likely when he encounters Zeus in early game. His job is just to stay behind and avoid spams..
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Old 2009-07-16, 09:46   Link #968
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i see no wonder i got owned last time i played >_< and its up against zeus >_<
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Old 2009-07-16, 11:18   Link #969
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^only early game^ ask someone to switch a lane with u if u lane with zeus or any nuker ints. once u get ur core items wit snipe. u can face off the ints.
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Old 2009-07-17, 00:46   Link #970
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i see

hmm soo its all on how fast i can farm my items

any way

im am wonder wich should i buy 1st

empty bottle or the boots(that add movespeed)??
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Old 2009-07-17, 01:35   Link #971
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empty bottle or the boots(that add movespeed)??
I buy neither.
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Old 2009-07-17, 07:10   Link #972
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I buy neither.
why??

is there any 1st item better than that stuff??
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Old 2009-07-17, 07:41   Link #973
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GG branches.
Boots first is bad idea, really bad, unless you're Yunero, and with a decent teammate.
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Old 2009-07-17, 09:01   Link #974
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Yeah, in most games people get one or two of the early stat items (bracer/band/null) and a return scroll, INT users tend to get BoT as their 4th item (although I prefer phase for the extra def). The reason to leave boots for later is simple, you'll be at the same lane for quite a while and boots give MS, which you won't be needing at first.
I still get boots to turn to treads on heavy melees because I just can't stand "normal" attack speed, but then again that's the reason I mainly use agility heroes
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Old 2009-07-17, 09:29   Link #975
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usually I start with cheap items.. just 5 ironwood and 6 tango of essification (we call it tango of satisfaction) then we stay strong in the lane. If we don't get pawned in the lane, we can manage to buy some dmg items and treads.

well it depends in your companion.. I usually play with my friends whom I trust in the game. We usually start ganking if we already reach lvl 6 above..
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Old 2009-07-17, 12:09   Link #976
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Most of the time I start with 6 Tango, 4 gg branches and a chicken. After that just use your chicken to bring whatever you need, or share it with your teammate.
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Old 2009-07-19, 01:19   Link #977
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Chiken + Salve/clarities + scout/prot/sobi depending on hero. Weird combination, but works for me.
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Old 2009-07-19, 01:34   Link #978
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any way is there a good way to annoy the heck out of lina?? cuz people here are totally pro in using her especially when she has the dragon slave to level 4 and hell it annoys me when i face her
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Old 2009-07-19, 01:55   Link #979
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any way is there a good way to annoy the heck out of lina?? cuz people here are totally pro in using her especially when she has the dragon slave to level 4 and hell it annoys me when i face her
O_o I hardly find dragon slave annoying. The stun is what makes Lina annoying. For counters, NA's mana burn, Riki's cloud, and AM mana break/spell resistance are pretty nice.
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Old 2009-07-21, 17:46   Link #980
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I find krobe's skills annoying... Carrion Wave has a lesser cooldown becoz of the Witchcraft, she has Silence, her Exorcism hurts a lot and heals her too. I'm glad they nerfed her 3rd skill, no more MS bonus for Krobe..
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