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Old 2009-07-02, 21:58   Link #801
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"I guess I'm just a big kid, then."

Nah. I usually just tell them that anime is a medium, just like film or comics. I don't suggest anything if they aren't looking for it, but I explain that just like there are kids movies and adult movies, there's mature anime, kids stuff, and everything in-between.
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Old 2009-07-02, 22:53   Link #802
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a swift slap in the face usually shuts them up pretty quick. maybe only girls can get away with that though...
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Old 2009-07-03, 10:05   Link #803
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He's a huge history buff.
I haven't paid attention to this thread for a while, but might I suggest showing him the movie Millennium Actress, which portrays 20th century Japanese history through the career of a film star? The other obvious choice would be Monster, but it is 74 episodes long.

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The problem with the current issues is that he is very conservative so he would probably view it as "Anti-American".
I'd avoid Grave of the Fireflies, then.
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Old 2009-07-20, 19:01   Link #804
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It depends on what anime and what genre.
If it's a mystery, horror, or bloody anime that will be really bad for kids, example Higurashi no naku koro ni and Elfen Lied.
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Old 2009-07-20, 22:31   Link #805
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I'd respond that saying "Isn't anime for kids?" is something naive to say. Not all animes are for kids, although a good bunch of them are.

There are plenty of animes that are for more grown-up people. Welcome to the N.H.K. is a great example of that. It maybe a cartoon, but it's about real things.
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Old 2009-07-21, 00:46   Link #806
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My response: "Then, you won't mind if I show your kids my hentai collection, would you?" . Though I do not have one, nor have I seen one.
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Old 2009-07-21, 01:04   Link #807
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My response: "Then, you won't mind if I show your kids my hentai collection, would you?" . Though I do not have one, nor have I seen one.
Wanna borrow mine?
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Old 2009-07-21, 01:04   Link #808
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meh... they'd just assert that "hentai is for big kids"
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Old 2009-07-21, 01:07   Link #809
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meh... they'd just assert that "hentai is for big kids"
They I would tell them to watch some of the stuff that I don't watch...
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Old 2009-07-21, 01:45   Link #810
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Sure, anime is for kids...but not JUST for kids. It's not like we're watching doraemon, and what about anime that got a live-action film later on? Would someone watch the Death note movie but totally disregard the anime?
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Old 2009-07-21, 02:09   Link #811
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My response: "Then, you won't mind if I show your kids my hentai collection, would you?" . Though I do not have one, nor have I seen one.
Not sure if replacing one bad stereotype with another is a good solution
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Old 2009-07-21, 02:13   Link #812
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Not sure if replacing one bad stereotype with another is a good solution
Well it is just the way people look at it some like it some don't. Thank god all my friends just accept it. Except for the gaming friends online.
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Old 2009-07-21, 03:13   Link #813
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Sure, anime is for kids...but not JUST for kids. It's not like we're watching doraemon, and what about anime that got a live-action film later on? Would someone watch the Death note movie but totally disregard the anime?
agreed, but i will say i dont mind watching Doraemon too

i feel its the same about "video games are for kids?" question
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Old 2009-07-21, 03:21   Link #814
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agreed, but i will say i dont mind watching Doraemon too

i feel its the same about "video games are for kids?" question
True. Although they have official ratings. Doesn't anime have that too?
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Old 2009-07-21, 04:44   Link #815
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I tell them that originally anime was not meant for kids.In most anime there is adult content.There is anime that is meant for kids..(Sailor Moon,Card Captor etc) but most is not.
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Old 2009-07-21, 05:24   Link #816
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"This is a common misconception. I am not saying that all shows are written and targeted at a mature audience, anime for children certainly exists. At the surface, to a non-anime fan, anime is considered to be simply a cartoon. Cartoons are perceived by the majority as a form of entertainment for children. The reason for this perception, or for a better word fallacy, is because of Disney. The Disney corporation is one of the most well known, trusted creators of children's entertainment in the world. Walt Disney created some of the first animated shorts, which were designed for children. Disney later went on to create the first fully animated movie, Snow White, hugely successful making Disney the world leader in family/children's entertainment. Pixar Animations, now a part of Disney, currently dominates the C.G.I animation market, creating big budget kids/family entertainment. Disney, to its own gain, has created a blanket of ignorance in the western world. This Disney mindset has alienated many anime fans from discussing there hobbies in public. Anime fans have been driven to the Internet to discuss their hobby, or reduced to gathering at conventions to meet people with their interest. Anime is much more diverse than you have been lead to believe, it is similar to that of conventional television. There are lots of genres to appeal to a wide variety of tastes, and anime that appeals to children is only a small part of anime. Your way of thinking was created by Disney, and by thinking in such a way, your playing right in to their hands. I challenge you to look at anime, with an open mind. See what anime truly is. Throw away the glasses of ignorance and embrace the truth. You may even find a whole new form of entertainment which you never previously considered. Anime is not just for kids. Anime is for everyone. I will happily show you some of my favourite anime/manga and I would love to hear your opinions.

Thank you to anyone who reads my thoughts.

Summary: The anime is for kids mindset was created by Disney. A success of commercialism by one of the world's largest companies, by showing the person in question this, I think you can persuade them otherwise.

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Old 2009-07-21, 09:06   Link #817
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Look at our ages? Who gave the though that anime are for kids?
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Old 2009-07-21, 23:00   Link #818
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I would say, if you want to take my Kaiketsu Zorori from me, you'll have to take it from my cold, dead hands.

I like what I like and watch what I want to watch, regardless of what anyone else thinks.

Now, if they aren't interested, I do know enough to not talk about it in front of them.
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Old 2009-07-22, 01:33   Link #819
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"Anime isn't only for kids. Its just not for really for old people."

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Old 2009-07-22, 01:37   Link #820
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I'd avoid Grave of the Fireflies, then.
I wouldn't, GotF strikes me as more objectively anti-war than anti-American, and there are a few scenes which some could even interpret as being anti-Japanese-patriotism. The enemies doing the bombing are rarely named nor is politics ever brought to the forefront.

But anyways, GotF isn't really a history film either. It's about the effects of a war on two children, but not really about political or historical facts. The setting could have been substituted for other wars and still have had similar impact emotionally.

However, generally, I would recommend it as a film for those who think anime is just kiddy stuff. Convincing people to watch a series is a tough shot, because series don't usually get to their best until a few episodes in, which is hard to convince a person to sit through if they don't like anime. But a film is easier to sell as "here, just watch this", and when you're mopping their tears off the floor after Grave of the Fireflies, I'm sure their opinion will be changed.
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