2009-07-27, 18:40 | Link #21 | |||||
Flying Dumb-ass
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
Age: 33
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Now, lets translate the metaphor. 1. The cost is negligible in the acquisition of the vehicle, as it is in the acquisition of both anonymous and normal P2P programs. There is no cost, therefore it is negligible. 2. The basic safety features of the cars are the equivalent to the basic features of the P2P software. The ability to reduce upload/download speed, assign a port for connections and the capability for connection control. These features are essentials, not additions. 3. The drive to work is a metaphor meaning both programs (vehicles) will be used in the same way. Both programs will serve the same purpose. Weather conditions were simply included for arguments sake. 4. An anonymous P2P program (SUV) minimises a risk which in reality is already very small. The extra protection it provides is far outweighed by the disadvantages it brings with it. But we will discuss them later. 5. A standard P2P program (intermediate car) doesn't provide the additional safety of the SUV, but comes with it own set of advantages. These will also be discussed later. .....Later has arrived You argue that speed is the only problem, but I beg to differ. The slower speed causes a domino effect, which creates further problems. The slow speed increases the time required to complete a download. Time is a precious resource, not one which should be wasted unnecessarily. As humans are only mortal we are limited in the amount of time we have to spare. The increased time requirement also means that your computer must remain switched on longer. Electricity costs money, so the longer your computer is on, the more expensive the download becomes. The increased electricity bill will leave you with less disposable income, which will have a detrimental effect on your hobbies. Less money for anime, manga, or figures Another potential problem I can see, based of the estimated data you provided, is the limited number of files you can share. The network is so small I doubt I would have access to the files I actually want to download. This proves very problematic to anyone who is interested in switching to such a network. I agree, being anonymous is a good thing, but its currently not worth making the jump. The risk involved in using normal P2P are minuscule, the networks and number of files shared are larger and the download speeds are significantly higher. Quote:
"On June 10, the French constitutional council declared the main part of the bill unconstitutional, therefore making it useless. The council found that the law violated the 1789 Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, and in particular the presumption of innocence, separation of powers and freedom of speech." The bill has been rejected on so many occasions its laughable. Politicians really don't know how to properly legislate and enforce online piracy laws without invading civil rights. This is because it's close to impossible to do so. The idea of P2P friendly ISP's is very much alive and kicking. As long as these companies don't openly support piracy they have a very bright future. It won't succeed using that USP alone, but it will provide excellent market penetration. Quote:
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.......lol now I'm tired. Thanks for the detailed replies, I will leave good rep in the morning, but now I sleep Oh yeah! Sorry if my post in some parts seems aggressive. When I'm on a roll with a good point it's difficult for me to stop lol Last edited by miscs; 2009-07-28 at 04:28. |
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Don't assume the ISP and the major would remain ignorant about Internet forever: they're much smarter than people think. The HADOPI is a proof of that: the copyright associations saw that suing people wasn't very effective, so they are pressing the ISP very hardly, but not with imposition, but with cooperation. Making the ISP media sellers, with the relative revenue, would make them automatically interested in suppressing p2p. To complete the new strategy, they make mandatory for ISP to reveal the identity of people behind an ip and disconnect them if they repeat the copyright infringment offense three times. It's MUCH faster than suing people, going to court and such. Quote:
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That's the reason why they're a bit more complex than second generation p2p, but there are three generation p2p software as simple as the second generation one. Quote:
The same concept applies to I2P and Freenet: the more the better! Quote:
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Anyway there is instant messaging software even for Freenet or I2P, so don't get the wrong idea: slow bandwidth doesn't mean a message will take hours to arrive... but only a bit more seconds usually, and a bit more minutes in the worst case scenario! Quote:
BTW the more time needed by the anonymous p2p would be a temporary problem: when there will be tens or hundreds of peers all around the world, the speeds won't be different than ones that can be reached with Emule or Bittorrent. Tons of files on both these network have a few peers already and they're slow as hell, and this in the regular Internet. This is proof that's just a matter of missing critical mass (peers), not a problem of the various anonymous p2p software in themselves. Quote:
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