Valkyria Chronicles 2 (PSP) Game Discussion

[SoggySoyBean]

woo i like the new small arms upgrade system :P

and whats wrong with just having multi-turreted tanks? xD Landships

[RedShocktrooper]

Because that would be confusing. I also don't think I'd use all the turrets - just pummel the enemy with the 'main' one. Thus, why I prefer double-barrel tanks. More shells = more damage output.

[Runty]

Okay, here's another character video where I have absolutely no clue what's going on.

Spoiler for Melissa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TPfdy0PRg
The only things I know about Melissa are that she has a huge crush on Zeri, and that said crush makes her pretty much a stalker.

Beyond this, I have absolutely no clue as to what's going on. Can someone translate?

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by Runty

Doublepost, I know, but I got another two character videos, both pertaining to a certain Darcsen girl with glasses.

Spoiler for Mischlitt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ODBWJ-fCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLmP_w9wfQo

I really have no idea what's going on, so could someone please translate?

Spoiler for Mischlitt:

Some random student speak about the rebel troops attacking another Darscen village which is Mischlitt's hometown, since the school is too busy fending off revolutionaries in other parts. She asks Avan and co. to fend off the rebels. After you saved the village, she hands you the doll as a sign of gratitude for treating the Darscen not as some group that needs to be sheltered from harm but as comrades in arms

[RedShocktrooper]

Since I figure that you've gotten there by now, Cloner4000, what is there in the way of firepower and armor upgrades? Also, does any level of HT resemble a Tiger/Bengal Tiger tank? Or is it too soon to ask?

EDIT: Also, can you apply what I call attaché armor? (That would be like schüze put on Panzer IVs)

[cloner4000]

There is armor upgrades, such that in increase frontal, side or back armor. And each gun has it's various upgrades that increase fire power.

I still haven't unlock the heavy tank, I think I might be missing some events or parts. I don't really know.

What do you mean by HT?

currently I am stuck trying to gets items needed to upgrade my units to third-tier units, it turns out to be harder than I first thought. Because there is no grantee that your unit gets the type you need, and what you get seems completely random. And the battle now are no easy push over. I haven't even get to the New game +...
That's about the only thing I wish they could change.

[RedShocktrooper]

Well, if it was too easy, what would be the point of playing it? A better question is, "is it good?"

Oh, and HT is shorthand for 'Heavy Tank.'

[cloner4000]

Yea, the game is very fun, you'll probably spend a lot more time playing VC2 and it's probably one of the best game for PSP...

I suppose, if it's too easy then its no fun, but sometime it's just a bit annoying after the 5th time and you still can't get the one thing you need.

I don't think I am any where close to getting it, but the enemy heavy tank like I say before have very heavy armor and you can probably customize it quite a lot so I am sure you'll like it

[RedShocktrooper]

Good. I need at least a decent strategy game for the PSP. Since I don't have PSN, RA1 for it is out of the question.

If it's too easy, I can back that up. I like difficulty.

I suppose I'll have to get the Heavy Tank myself. If it's random like Royal weapons I'll rip my flocking hair out. I still haven't gotten the Thiemer M30R or whatever it was, and that's the only thing keeping me away from "Excellence of Armament."

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by RedShocktrooper

Well, if there is no option to mount twin 120mm guns and missile launchers, there should be D:

Yea verily, though I charge through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am driving a house-sized mass of "fuck you."

-Anonymous Mammoth tank crewman.

Joking aside, at least having the option to clone the Soviet Heavy Tank from Red Alert 1 (a midsize tank mounting twin heavy weapons) would be cool. Though I will easily settle for a tank with loads of armor - if it can take two shots to the Radiator, that's just win.

There are enemy tanks ingame who can take 2 shots to the radiator, so I'm pretty sure that unlock's possible.

...I might be the only person in this thread who's actually playing that game, albeit the Japanese version. Can't understand much (that'll have to wait for the US version), but the gist I'm getting is that there are attempts to depose Cordelia, and due to various issues the military academy kids are drafted to fight the GRA, who are the bad guys/rebels.

Very much wake up, go to school, save the day stuff.

From what I've played so far, there are 10 classes ingame. Your basic classes are Scout, Shocktrooper, Engineer, Lancer, and Armored Soldier (who carries a riot shield and hammer, and disarms mines and smacks people in close combat). From the 5 base classes, you can then further specialise in your base class, or upgrade to a further subclass: Scout upgrades to Sniper, Shocktrooper to Machine Gunner, Engineer to Bugler (who carries a bugle. Which seems to grant buffs), Lancer to anti-infantry Mortarman, and Armored Soldier to a knight (who has a greatsword, knightly armor and a huge shield).

So far, haven't really played with snipers much. I have a fair number of Shocktroopers. Machinegunners tend to fire in a wide arc, which makes them useless for killing things on their turn - they make up for that with a large salvo size though. Plus, it seems that if they're used to support other units, they focus their fire, so i'm experimenting with that a bit.

Playing it in Japanese with a rudimentary knowledge of spoken Japanese and almost zero knowledge of written Japanese is a bit of a challenge So far I'm alright, although I'm currently stuck on one of the missions in Chapter 3, wherein the crew finds themselves up against heavily armored Artificial Valkyur. It's a real pain in the ass, and I keep wishing I had Mammoth 27s or wanzers or Valkyries (last games I played were Front Mission 5 and Macross Ultimate Frontier...)

As for the delay, 6 months is better than never. English speaking fans had to wait until December 29 2009 for the full fan translation of Front Mission 5, released in 2006, because Square Enix decided not to localise it.

...so is anyone else playing the game, and if so, any suggestions/ideas? I tend to operate fairly conservatively, moving infantry up in bounding overwatch and making sure they're mutually supportive... kept positioning them to surround enemies alot at first (which shows my influences - Front Mission players, especially thos playing FM5, tend to surround whatever targets they have).

[RedShocktrooper]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Yea verily, though I charge through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am driving a house-sized mass of "fuck you."

-Anonymous Mammoth tank crewman.

I think I'll have to make myself a Mammoth Tank sig, and work that quote into it.

From what I've played so far, there are 10 classes ingame. Your basic classes are Scout, Shocktrooper, Engineer, Lancer, and Armored Soldier (who carries a riot shield and hammer, and disarms mines and smacks people in close combat). From the 5 base classes, you can then further specialise in your base class, or upgrade to a further subclass: Scout upgrades to Sniper, Shocktrooper to Machine Gunner, Engineer to Bugler (who carries a bugle. Which seems to grant buffs), Lancer to anti-infantry Mortarman, and Armored Soldier to a knight (who has a greatsword, knightly armor and a huge shield).

So far, haven't really played with snipers much. I have a fair number of Shocktroopers. Machinegunners tend to fire in a wide arc, which makes them useless for killing things on their turn - they make up for that with a large salvo size though. Plus, it seems that if they're used to support other units, they focus their fire, so i'm experimenting with that a bit.

So, from what I'm hearing, if the game lets me get twin-barrel Heavy tanks, I can also make some of my shocktroopers Heavy Weapons Guy knockoffs as well? Sweet. :hyper-^V^:

...so is anyone else playing the game, and if so, any suggestions/ideas? I tend to operate fairly conservatively, moving infantry up in bounding overwatch and making sure they're mutually supportive... kept positioning them to surround enemies alot at first (which shows my influences - Front Mission players, especially thos playing FM5, tend to surround whatever targets they have).

Well, Cloner4000's been answering a fair amount of the questions I've asked, so I'd think you could turn to him/her for some answers.

I found myself going a considerable Brute Force route in VC1 (preferring the Edelweiss over the Shamrock for its armor and firepower), and I was an avid Shockie user. I'm also an active Soviet, GDI, and Chinese player in C&C, and those are all Brute Force factions. It probably does have to do with your 'background' in games.

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by RedShocktrooper

So, from what I'm hearing, if the game lets me get twin-barrel Heavy tanks, I can also make some of my shocktroopers Heavy Weapons Guy knockoffs as well? Sweet. :hyper-^V^:

Yep, it can be. Still experimenting - it helps that it's easier to level up Shocktroopers than Scouts: you need roughly 20-odd kills to unlock the subclass upgrade, and Shocktroopers tend to be better at killing things than Scouts. Moar dakka!

Well, Cloner4000's been answering a fair amount of the questions I've asked, so I'd think you could turn to him/her for some answers.

I found myself going a considerable Brute Force route in VC1 (preferring the Edelweiss over the Shamrock for its armor and firepower), and I was an avid Shockie user. I'm also an active Soviet, GDI, and Chinese player in C&C, and those are all Brute Force factions. It probably does have to do with your 'background' in games.

Probably does - I was a frequent armor user in C&C and RA1/2, and always played GDI. Mammoths, especially the Tiberium Wars Mammoth 27, are win. Haven't played it much, so I'm kinda easing back into the usage of armor. (My preferred tactic was turtling as much as possible until I'd built up a sufficiently large number of Mammoths, and then send them out. I once built a force of 60 Mammoths.... yeah, I had nothing better to do.) In terms of bang for buck, I think the railgun Predator and the Soviet Heavy from RA1 were probably the most cont-effective tanks - for one Mammoth, you can build 3 Predators, afterall...

...it probably wasn't a good idea to watch Band of Brothers before watching the VC1 anime and playing VC2 I keep thinking "What Would Winters Do?" and wishing my Scouts had M1 Garand rifles, and that the machinegun on my tank was the M2.

[Runty]

A few more character videos uploaded on Youtube.

Spoiler for Sophia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc5lc6NMTN0

I have absolutely no clue what she's about.

Spoiler for Cosette:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43nB33ykrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMOwhZgbM94

YEESH, AVAN. Crazy enough, yeah?

[MrTerrorist]

I got question. Is Avan a pimp? Coz i found a pic of him with the rest of his female classmates.

[RedShocktrooper]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

I got question. Is Avan a pimp? Coz i found a pic of him with the rest of his female classmates.

Pics or it didn't happen. Though, I'd half-laugh, half-cry if I saw it.

[DC20]

Originally Posted by RedShocktrooper

Pics or it didn't happen. Though, I'd half-laugh, half-cry if I saw it.

Mostly cry

[RedShocktrooper]

Originally Posted by DC20

Mostly cry

Pessimist potential, even if I agree with it, not welcome right now. As a possible Avan/Cosette shipper (and you'll hate me for it, DC), I want to know what the competition is. The non-homo parts, at least.

[DC20]

Why would I hate you for that? I've got nothing against Cossette. And it's not the pessimist potential (well, not ONLY). More the cynic one.

[RedShocktrooper]

I can quote you as changing a quote about right vs. wrong into poking fun at the power of love. Unless, of course, we're both jealous of Avan. That's plausible, too.

[DC20]

Originally Posted by RedShocktrooper

I can quote you as changing a quote about right vs. wrong into poking fun at the power of love. Unless, of course, we're both jealous of Avan. That's plausible, too.

Or jealous of Cosette, mirite?

>.>

<.<





And yeah, I do have a problem with "the power of love", but I don't have a problem with love in general. It can actually be good for a story, so long as it isn't the end all be all solution for every problem presented. Unfortunately, that's often the way stories like VC lean, and from what I've seen VC2 isn't looking to be my kind of game. The whole school route can be done very well (See: Persona series), but VC doesn't seem the place for that. The whole civil war and ethnic cleavage story is awesome... I don't really see how school kids add to that.