2010-04-21, 19:11 | Link #41 |
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Well it seems the hatred between Naruto and most of the villagers that he was surrounded by didn't just vanish. Again a very nice idea by Kishimoto, such hatred that Naruto experienced in his childhood will not just go away by itself, even if Naruto doesn't experience it consciously now, but it is present in his subconscious. That is what makes it impossible to reject the will of the kyuubi, Naruto must find peace in his soul to be able to reject the demon's will.
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2010-04-21, 19:13 | Link #42 | |
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So we agree on that. I said it's just like the Kyuubi's key out of the prison. It's his deal, worthy of a demon. As it seems, the Kyuubi wants to tear Naruto's body apart in order to break free. When he comes out, the more intense cloak just destroys Naruto's body, burns the skin and so on.
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2010-04-21, 19:17 | Link #43 | |
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Now i wonder if these demons have their own will or is it the host's will projected into them. Because Bee's demon surely is quite cooperative, i don't see how would the kyuubi become so cooperative if it's mind is completely independent from Naruto's. Naruto will probably need the kyuubi's cooperation to break free from Sasuke's genjutsu, just like Bee could do that with the help of his demon. If the demon's mind is independent then what has Naruto to offer to the demon to buy it's cooperation? Maybe he can offer some level of freedom, which happens when Bee transforms into that demon. |
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2010-04-21, 19:27 | Link #44 |
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So we agree on King Kong, too?
Geez, he just had to pull it off. I'm waiting for Samui screaming "Help!" and getting kidnapped by that stupid King Kong. I'd make my day. The evil Naruto, that reminds me of Luke Skywalker in the Darth Vader Suit... just when good Luke cut off his head, there was his own face under the mask. It will show Naruto that he truly is like Sasuke, he just decided differently. "I am the same. I have that hatred inside me and I made up my mind. I could have become a really bad guy."
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2010-04-21, 19:28 | Link #45 | |
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Naruto will soon become a Jedi Master...er, Kage, and help to bring balance to the Force...er, Elemental Nations. That being said, Kirabi was fun this chapter (despite all his other flaws, he didn't succumb to the other usual stereotype), and I loved Naruto's reactions to King Kong (stupid reference, though), but the chapter was a page shorter than usual, and had very little content despite everything that happened. |
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2010-04-21, 19:35 | Link #48 | |
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That reminds me of something. Wasn't there a discussion about whether Jinchuuriki were liked or not and someone said that they were accepted in Kumo? It seems they were not accepted, not even in Kumo and Kirabi was sent to a shit island where his only friends were wild animals. He was a beast among beasts, not regarded as human anymore. Maybe he only returned after his brother succeeded the former Raikage. This chapter, it's often been stated that Kirabi is old. I didn't really know that he's old, but I always thought that Raikage looks a lot oder, so Kirabi must be the younger brother. It seems his only way to return was to learn how to control the beast. He must have suffered a lot.
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2010-04-21, 21:25 | Link #49 | |
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The island is a training ground. Raikage said that's where he and Kirabi trained together.
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2010-04-21, 21:39 | Link #51 |
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[QUOTE=Sabaku Kyu;3013899]Yeah, set-up for a rematch seems pretty likely here, though I can't help but wonder why Gai is at the island in the first place. Yamato I can understand because of the Kyuubi and his role in Team 7, but Gai just seems kinda random. Maybe he's there because of his experience fighting Sharingan?
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2010-04-21, 22:04 | Link #53 |
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And yet, Yamato trounces around his wood to justify being Naruto's guardian...
...wait, what? Well, Naruto's still a pervert but Killerbee isn't...That page had me going for a second since I wasn't expecting it...And as if Gai didn't already seem randomly out of place, I liked the little minute part where while everyone else was surprised at the appearance of a gorilla, Gai is puking his guts out on the ground... Anyway, I think with the Naruto vs. Evil Naruto part, I think it would be too one-dimensional if we were to say it's simply a psychological battle against his own hatred...Yes, there are a lot of dark and negative thoughts that run through Naruto's mind, especially since he was once the despised Jinchurikki of the Kyuubi...Wait, Naruto has the Kyuubi inside of him? Of course...Just as much as hatred was directed at Naruto for being a Jinchurikki, the Kyuubi inside of him also feeds on hatred as well...The cliche statement "One in the same" most definitely applies here; Just as the waterfall of truth is described as the first step, Naruto can't get around to taming the vile Kyuubi without battling his own personal hatred...Two-dimensions in one step...
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2010-04-22, 00:12 | Link #57 |
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Finaly we will see dark/evil/sadistic Naruto who don't give a shit about others.
It's been a damn time to, I alvays tought Naruto was weird with the way he is acting happy all the time. Also this new Naruto could be what Karin felt some time ago. This new is acting just like Sasuke, meaning he is being an as*hole.
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2010-04-22, 00:50 | Link #58 |
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Kisame is pretty lucky Naruto and Gai have awful memory.
At least it wasn't Sasuke confronting Naruto at the waterfall. inb4 Images of Bee tentacle raping female Naruto(s). Last edited by Shiryuu; 2010-04-22 at 01:07. |
2010-04-22, 01:48 | Link #59 |
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Just read the chapter, and to tell you the truth, I am most interested in finding out why the hell Gai came with them.
I hope hes actually going to give naruto some gate training, and is not just there for a sideshow fight with Kisame. I find Kisame's fights to be the most boring in the entire manga. Makes a giant ocean Turns into a cheesy looking sharkman Swims around charging the enemy lame It should be fun seeing evil naruto fight. $100 says evil naruto fights intelligently like kakashi/sasuke, and not the clumsy happy go lucky style of regular naruto. Can't wait to see it |
2010-04-22, 02:06 | Link #60 |
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What so weird about Gai being there? He is a jounin.. He is probably sent to give a helping hand to Yamato. Konoha dont have enough jounin character that we familiar with left.. Not to mentioned his tie to Kisame storywise (they still have scores to settle)
Yamato would get his hands tied if Naruto went berserk again, so having another jounin are a good idea from Konoha's perspective. It would make more sense then say, having Kiba or Neji around.. They are useless (power level wise)
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