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View Poll Results: Angel Beats! - Episode 9 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 131 | 64.53% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 41 | 20.20% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 10.34% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 2.46% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 1.48% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.49% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.49% | |
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2010-05-30, 15:32 | Link #201 |
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When they started into the train scene, I thought it might have been a dream or something, as I thought that Otonashi's demise was instantaneous in the crash. It wasn't until he found that they were trapped that I realized this was more detailed memories. That whole bit was well-done, with the helping of the passengers, the organ cards, and the rescue at the end.
Kanade was absolutely angelic...but is she really an 'angel?' Seems that in previous episodes it was hinted that she was just like the others: trapped in this limbo world. Not sure what to think now.
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2010-05-30, 15:38 | Link #202 | |
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Besides just look at number of corpses, all of them are destroying air too. Of course water also was a factor.
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2010-05-30, 15:42 | Link #203 | ||
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Thanks for the many reasonable replies (though someone seems to like giving me negative rep for everything I write but who cares)
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First, what do you think happens after the characters disappear? My understanding is that there is a high chance that they stop existing, hence my comparison to death. I accept that Yuri and the others are still dealing with the emotional impact of the unfairness of their lives, but I ask you this; would you trade immortality for peace of mind and death? The simple fact is that the characters have attained something unparalleled - certainty of their existence. Every second we live now we have no idea whether our deaths could come suddenly. We live in constant fear of that, this episode showed that exactly - death is scary, it's the enemy of mankind. Everything we do is in fear (conscious or unconscious) of the uncertainty of the timing of our deaths. The SSS is removed from that. Completely and utterly in a heaven like state, where their every need is catered for (I think). The fact is that Otanashi is lying. He is using deception in the hope that he will remove them from this place. My use of the word force in the original post was definitely premature, we don't know how Otanashi plans on getting his compatriots to die, but we know that he is deceiving them in order to do so. Otanashi should express his beliefs openly and give everyone the option of joining him to try and die, and everyone who enjoys their current existence vs the uncertainties of death can carry on having fun. I believe that doing anything else is akin to Naoi's hypnotism - presenting a false reality in order to get a desired result. Quote:
The reason we have doctors and medicine is in order to stop death. This is done in the premise (true or untrue) that death is bad. If Otanashi is know ascribing to the viewpoint that death is not bad, then does that not destroy the impact of his "sacrifice"? Do you truly believe this? |
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2010-05-30, 16:01 | Link #204 |
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In this episode, Otonashi seems to change his mind and decide to help "those guys" disappear. Won't his decision turn again?
I can't accept such "happy" ending because I want not to lose my favorite characters following Iwasawa I believe I am not the only person that feels sad to watch their disappearance.
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2010-05-30, 16:31 | Link #206 | ||||
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2010-05-30, 17:24 | Link #207 |
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If Otonashi is lying, then he hasn't done anything worse than Yuri herself has. Yuri has put forth a deliberately negative view of "moving on" in order to bind the group to a uniform purpose, when there are clear signs of her knowing it's not as simple as she makes it out to be. There is absolutely no way Otonashi can force someone to move on if they're not ready, any more than Yuri can force them to stay if they're ready to go.
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2010-05-30, 17:39 | Link #209 | |
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This means at most Yuri's negative view is deceiving about two of the three at worst, and none at best, where as Otanashi's positive view is deceiving about all three at worst[if they would go to hell, or reborn as non-human, or into another twisted fate life], and minimally deceiving about "absolute" end to their existence being good. So logically Otanashi's positive view does worse deceiving than Yuri's negative view on it simply because the unknown outcomes favoring a view againist "moving on".
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2010-05-30, 18:02 | Link #211 | |
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I enjoyed the episode; it was very touching, especially the last part of Otonashi's flashback. It was a bit long, but it was good. But, when it comes to Otonashi's plans...
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I'm just worried that if they disappear they won't be reborn. T_T I'd love an ending where everyone could be reborn in a similar setting but that's just my idealistic idea Well, I'll have to see the next few episodes to know what's going on... |
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2010-05-30, 18:19 | Link #212 | |
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2010-05-30, 18:40 | Link #213 |
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It would be cool if in the end they all get reborn but do not have a memory about eachother and then when they grow up they all happen to be in the same class in the same highschool and start becoming friends again.
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2010-05-30, 19:46 | Link #214 | |
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Also, I don't know in Japan, but in Italy the tunnels should have an emergency telephone and an emergency exit every 50meters, if I'm not wrong. Isn't there a similar law in Japan?
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2010-05-30, 19:59 | Link #215 | |
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as in the emergency response team, i suspect that the rubbles are thick and there is a blinding snow storm that slows down the rescue efforts |
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2010-05-30, 20:42 | Link #217 |
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Yes you might want to live forever but eventually you will get bored of it, because what do they have in this world? School and some fighting with Tenshi? Actually the whole fighting is the only real fun they are having here.
The moment Kanade will stop fighting them, their immortal life will become boring since they will be on normal daily bases and eventually it will get tiresome espacially when you are bound to one place aka school. So basicly they will pass on sooner or later.
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2010-05-30, 20:51 | Link #218 | |
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Plus who knows maybe overtime other people will develop hypnosis or some other weird power in this world which would make things more interesting.
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2010-05-30, 21:21 | Link #219 |
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I find this episode very sad but at least it explains Otonashi's action back when he saved the new student president. I'm glad that Tenshi's gained an ally. But Yuri would be one hard girl to crack. She probably already knows the disappearing/moving on deal, yet she can't accept her hatred for the past and her situation.
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2010-05-30, 22:31 | Link #220 | |
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