2010-09-12, 22:54 | Link #442 |
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what??? of course luffy have to be admiral level within the 2year space, because as MarvelB mention i think something like that may happen and if the world noble is going to come after luffy, whom do u thing they going to send...Admirals of course, the least vice admiral, i doubt SH crew would spend much time (atleast i hope they don't)on fisherman island, Jinbei isn't so much of a pushover to let slave traders bully him he have a rep as a former Shichibukai, and beside fighting a mer-person underwater isn't so wise. I wonder if OP would take a Pirates of the caribbean Spin and introduce the flying dutchman or atleast a ghost ship (and no Moria doesn't count as it), cuz we have balckbread
and also on the grand there is an island of giants, i wonder if they would also be an island of dwarf??? just curious |
2010-09-12, 23:46 | Link #443 |
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I don't see Luffy defeating an admiral so soon... when it comes down to it, the admirals are pretty much THE most terrifying force against Luffy; the high majority of forces and pirates he's bound to face in the new world pale in comparison with the only possible exception of the yonkou (of which only 2 are possible enemies) and blackbeard given some time. There is no way he should be ready to actually take one down just as he's about to start out in the new world. I mean if Luffy can take down one of the amdirals so early on then where will be the tension when he has to have a rematch with smoker, goes head to head with Doflamingo, or has a run in with Captain Kidd? If he can take down an admiral then i feel certain he could take down many other foes... Luffy has to grow into these things and work his way up... frankly I kinda of expect Luffy to defeat one of the supernovas and Doflamingo before he finally brings down an admiral
however, taking down an admiral, and escaping from one are two different matters... and that's what i would expect to see. The strawhats having a run in an admiral but having enough strength to fight back enough to give themselves room for escape... just having the strength to escape would be enough to have made all there training worth it |
2010-09-13, 01:55 | Link #444 | |
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What I would like to see is that Luffy & Co. to be at the fighting strength similar to Claymore's cast after the time skip. The claymore cast had the ability to pretty much defy an abyssal one at a whim. Meaning they could escape with almost 100% certainty. I think we want to see the same from luffy's crew. They should never feel like marine admiral is a threat, unless they choose to counter one head on. As opposed to currently where they were either saved by another (Rayleigh v.s Kizaru), or were spared by the admiral (aokiji)
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2010-09-13, 02:33 | Link #446 | |
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the best I can see is Luffy + crew holding their own against Smoker (if he's admiral) and then escaping after thrashing the World Nobles |
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2010-09-13, 02:47 | Link #447 |
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Since there's already more then a year passed in OP time, I guess bye now Luffy's able to sleep peacefully. Rayleigh is probably impressed bye Luffy's growth which exceeds any expectation that he had which will result in Luffy returning sooner to AL then planned. (to conceive his love child with Boa which so many people are hoping.)
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2010-09-13, 02:59 | Link #448 |
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No way in hell will Luffy reach admiral-level right after the timeskip. Remember, Rayleigh is only training him in the basics of Haki, not advanced techniques. I strongly doubt that basics alone will be enough to take down a VA-level opponent, let alone an admiral.....
And besides, giving Luffy such a radical power boost would be too cheap anyway, as I've already said (perhaps one too many times, but it's true, dagnabbit! ). One of my biggest gripes about Naruto's skip was that Kishi just about instantly closed the power gap between the main characters and their enemies in the span of a few chapters. I'm fairly confident that Oda will have Luffy and co. reach a reasonable enough level that will undoubtedly make them a force to be reckoned with (i.e. just strong enough to survive the New World), without the need to resort to game-breaking super techniques or whatever...... |
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2010-09-13, 05:35 | Link #450 | |
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taking up luffy to the highest level as equal to the Admiral level, that would be a good plan to end up one piece sooner.... I think this whole 2 year will just makes luffy and the crew be able to give a 'love slap' to an admiral and while they saving their ass away, would be enough....
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2010-09-13, 06:45 | Link #451 | |
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I don't think Luffy is going to become strong enough to take on the four emperors right after the time skip. If the Four Emperors where much more powerful than the Admirals than the Pirates would have crushed the marines a long time ago. Also Oda isn't going to write the marines out of the story, while the story is still about Luffy's quest for One Piece, the story itself has expanded into a massive conflict between Pirates, World Government, and Revolutionaries. Oda's not going to end that conflict during a time skip, that conflict will continue until the end of the series. Akainu is a boss to be defeated near the end of the game, not in the middle. Keep in mind that theirs still a ton of stories to be told, as Oda continues to explore the World Government and how it should act. |
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2010-09-13, 11:43 | Link #453 |
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The story of One Piece won't be ending anytime soon, and thus that leaves plenty of room for Luffy to still grow. Therefore, he won't be admiral-level immediately after the time skip. That wouldn't make any sense. At most, I see Luffy being shichibukai level (of course, still not as powerful as the elites like Mihawk, Kuma, and Doflamingo).
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2010-09-13, 11:48 | Link #454 |
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There's no real Shichibukai level (they are all different levels of strength), so that is kind of a meaningless statement. Rather, I'm going to say that Luffy (and Sanji and Zoro) will be able to take on and defeat a Pacifista by himself after the 2 years of training. I've said for quite a while now that the Pacifistas will be the base-line level of strength for the New World, so it only makes sense, to me, that Luffy and company would be able to deal with at least that level of threat by the time they enter the New World.
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2010-09-13, 12:00 | Link #455 |
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When I say "shichibukai level", I mean that Luffy would be considered worthy of being a potential candidate. He already has the notoriety; and following the timeskip, he'll at least have the necessary strength to be amongst the shichibukai ranks.
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2010-09-13, 12:07 | Link #456 |
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^Moria and Crocodile do not appear to use Haki in their abilities, but both were awarded the title of Shichibukai based solely on their strength...and Luffy beat both of them (whether you consider their defeats legitimate or not, the WG knows that Luffy has the ability to defeat a Shichibukai (that was one of the reasons they sent Kuma to Moria, they were worried that Luffy could defeat another Shichibukai)). Luffy, as he was at the end of Part I, was strong enough for the title. (I'm not trying to start a 'versus' discussion here, I am merely pointing out that the Shichibukai have a very uneven distribution of power - there is a top level to the pseudo-organization, and then there is a bottom level, and Luffy fits in nicely amongst the bottom level.)
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& Moria never really fought a fair 1v1 battle (i.e. without the shadows he's harvested for 10 years prior) and Croc - if he'd just stayed around to make sure Luffy actually died - TWICE or if Luffy didn't get the antidote the third time .. on the subject of Croc and his awesomness - Croco D. Ile ... thoughts ? xD Quote:
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2010-09-13, 12:20 | Link #458 |
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@ James - Only Blackbeard was bestowed the title of shichibukai based on strength alone. All of the others also had quite the reputation before being recruited.
As far as the WG is concerned, they are merely given the results of incidents. They don't know exactly how things happen.
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2010-09-13, 12:24 | Link #459 |
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that reputation must come from strength surely
and I think it was mentioned that they are, in fact, 7 of some of the strongest pirates in the world (well, barring the Yonkou and their top commanders) WB's allies from the NW are surely among the top NW non-Yonkou pirates and they didn't look like any of them were Shichibukai level (except Oars, but that was a special case) |
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But I agree with you that reputation does come from strength as well.
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