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Shade Vortex · 2010-09-22, 06:33

I know this is pretty much a while after this topic lost activity, but I want to avoid spoiling episode 7 for myself and I feel it's much more relevant here.

I'm been rereading the entirety of all previous episodes, I'm almost done with episode 1, and then I'll immediately start on episode 2. Funnily enough I won't need to reread through episode 6, but I will need to read through 3, 4 and 5 as well.

The reason? I've been writing down notes in a text document in notepad that I've been working on for a while. These notes are clues, facts and other such information from each of the episodes. When it's done, I will post it in this topic, if that's alright- unless there's some rule against that.

But is anyone interested in such a document? The entire point of it is to help theorize about the mysteries and help fact check, or in case you missed or forgot specific hints you can more easily recheck them without reading the whole game or specific chapters again.

Now of course, I'm not saying that people who haven't read the games should read my notes -instead- of the games to understand the story or mysteries, as a lot of things are very context sensitive and require having read everything once to make more sense.

Jaden · 2010-09-22, 08:26

I'd read them if it's not insanely long

Will Wright · 2010-09-22, 15:04

I would read them even if they were insanely long.

Helmet-kun · 2010-09-22, 18:25

I'd read it because it'd be insanely long.

Disz · 2010-09-22, 18:34

Please do.I was thinking of making one and only did EP1.I'm pretty lazy.

TehChron · 2010-09-22, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Will Wright

I would read them even if they were insanely long.

Id be done with it in five minutes even if it is insanely long.

I'm that awesome.

Shade Vortex · 2010-09-22, 23:00

I shall give you guys the current file, even though I recently started on episode 2. Episode 1 and 6 are done, so there's a lot of information.

And yes, it IS insanely long. Especially episode 6- I wrote down everything that the twin demons said, because of an interview with Ryu that said to pay attention to what they say and how they talk.

http://www.pastebin.ca/1947064 Here it is, proof of my endeavor. I'm definitely gonna try to finish most of it before Episode 7 is translated by Witch Hunt, so that I can write down that episode's notes as well. Note that there might be some parts that use older translation patch text, so if there are any errors, that's why. There may also still be typos and such, but I'm doing my best. lol

Will Wright · 2010-09-22, 23:10

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Originally Posted by TehChron

Id be done with it in five minutes even if it is insanely long.

I'm that awesome.

I would read it all in four minutes, with my eyes closed.

Top that.

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http://www.pastebin.ca/1947064 Here it is, proof of my endeavor. I'm definitely gonna try to finish most of it before Episode 7 is translated by Witch Hunt, so that I can write down that episode's notes as well. Note that there might be some parts that use older translation patch text, so if there are any errors, that's why. There may also still be typos and such, but I'm doing my best. lol

Interesting! It's definitely a good read so far.

Small and possibly useless correction:

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5-Eva and George both know martial arts. Eva knows chinese martial
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arts, she's learned karate, tae-kwon-do and capoeira, and perhaps
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more.

Capoeira isn't a chinese martial art. Unless I'm mistaken, it's a Brazilian one. But again that's irrelevant and I'm not even sure if you implied it was a Chinese one in that sentence, so feel free to ignore me.

Kamar · 2010-09-23, 00:10

I'm guessing it wasn't meant to imply it was, since neither of the others is, being Japanese and Korean respectively.

Used Can · 2010-09-23, 00:11

And Karate is Japanese and Tae-Kwon-Do is Korean. I think he meant, aside from Chinese martial arts, she's also learnt those as well.

TehChron · 2010-09-23, 00:43

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Originally Posted by Will Wright

I would read it all in four minutes, with my eyes closed.

Top that.

I knew the text of it by memory before I even read it.

Glancing over it again would be an exercise in redundancy.

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Interesting! It's definitely a good read so far.

Small and possibly useless correction:

Capoeira isn't a chinese martial art. Unless I'm mistaken, it's a Brazilian one. But again that's irrelevant and I'm not even sure if you implied it was a Chinese one in that sentence, so feel free to ignore me.

Probably just the result of vague wording.

But you're right about Capoeira, good eye.

Shade Vortex · 2010-09-23, 02:20

For that part, I think I wrote it similarly to how Witch Hunt translated it. I don't feel like going back and checking, but I can always reword it to be less confusing if you guys would prefer that. Not a big deal.

But yeah, what I meant was other than the Chinese martial arts, she has learned those martial arts as well, regardless of their origin.

Will Wright · 2010-09-23, 16:54

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Originally Posted by TehChron

I knew the text of it by memory before I even read it.

Glancing over it again would be an exercise in redundancy.

I knew the text of it by memory because Ryuukishi even thought of the story.

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For that part, I think I wrote it similarly to how Witch Hunt translated it. I don't feel like going back and checking, but I can always reword it to be less confusing if you guys would prefer that. Not a big deal.

But yeah, what I meant was other than the Chinese martial arts, she has learned those martial arts as well, regardless of their origin.

No need to reword it, I'm just nitpicking.

Disz · 2010-09-23, 17:25

Hey...I'm pretty sure this must have been debated,but in EP5,can Hideyoshi be the man on the phone?

Reading the EP1 notes,it DOES say he can change accents...

TehChron · 2010-09-23, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Will Wright

I knew the text of it by memory because Ryuukishi even thought of the story.

Mhmm. I bet you did.

You lose, sir.

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Hey...I'm pretty sure this must have been debated,but in EP5,can Hideyoshi be the man on the phone?

Reading the EP1 notes,it DOES say he can change accents...

Why would he, though? Unless he's doing it as Eva's proxy in order to bully her into revealing that Kinzo is dead?

But that doesn't explain what happened to George.

My Mutuo Rosa vs. George knife-fight remains the most logical and elegant solution to that particular mystery.

Used Can · 2010-09-23, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Disz

Reading the EP1 notes,it DOES say he can change accents...

Maybe, but it makes you wonder how much he can sound like a young boy.

Helmet-kun · 2010-09-23, 18:36

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Originally Posted by Used Can

Maybe, but it makes you wonder how much he can sound like a young boy.

Or, well, girl.

Yeah, Hideyoshi could totally pull it off.

LyricalAura · 2010-09-23, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Helmet-kun

Or, well, girl.

Yeah, Hideyoshi could totally pull it off.

So Hideyoshi is Lambdadelta?

Leafsnail · 2010-09-23, 19:22

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Originally Posted by TehChron

But that doesn't explain what happened to George.

My Mutuo Rosa vs. George knife-fight remains the most logical and elegant solution to that particular mystery.

Heh.

Since this is an answers arc, though, I don't see any problem with the obvious answer (fake first twilight with some of the "survivors" colluding, someone comes back later and kills them, leaving their bodies in a state where it would be "impossible for them to be alive" when you look at them).

TMF19YA could just be part of the fake murders plot, rather than the real murderer. If that is the case, it could even be Battler.

Helmet-kun · 2010-09-23, 19:36

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Originally Posted by LyricalAura

So Hideyoshi is Lambdadelta?

Lambda=Hideyoshi=Kanon=Shannon=man from 19 years ago=Beatrice.

I hearby declare this to be Sh(annon)kanon(Hide)yoshi(Lamb)da(Bea)trice(man from nineteen yea)r(s), or Shkanonyoshidatricer

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Originally Posted by Leafsnail

this is an answers arc

It's actually a core arc.

If it were an answer arc, it wouldn't be so goddamn confusing.

2010-09-22, 18:25	Link #4684
Helmet-kun Local Crackpot Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Somewhere?	I'd read it because it'd be insanely long. __________________

2010-09-23, 00:11	Link #4690
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	And Karate is Japanese and Tae-Kwon-Do is Korean. I think he meant, aside from Chinese martial arts, she's also learnt those as well. __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2010-09-22, 06:33	Link #4681
Shade Vortex The Black Vortex. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA, WA.	I know this is pretty much a while after this topic lost activity, but I want to avoid spoiling episode 7 for myself and I feel it's much more relevant here. I'm been rereading the entirety of all previous episodes, I'm almost done with episode 1, and then I'll immediately start on episode 2. Funnily enough I won't need to reread through episode 6, but I will need to read through 3, 4 and 5 as well. The reason? I've been writing down notes in a text document in notepad that I've been working on for a while. These notes are clues, facts and other such information from each of the episodes. When it's done, I will post it in this topic, if that's alright- unless there's some rule against that. But is anyone interested in such a document? The entire point of it is to help theorize about the mysteries and help fact check, or in case you missed or forgot specific hints you can more easily recheck them without reading the whole game or specific chapters again. Now of course, I'm not saying that people who haven't read the games should read my notes -instead- of the games to understand the story or mysteries, as a lot of things are very context sensitive and require having read everything once to make more sense.

2010-09-22, 08:26	Link #4682
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	I'd read them if it's not insanely long

2010-09-22, 15:04	Link #4683
Will Wright Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010	I would read them even if they were insanely long.

2010-09-22, 18:34	Link #4685
Disz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Floor eh duh?	Please do.I was thinking of making one and only did EP1.I'm pretty lazy.

2010-09-22, 23:00	Link #4687
Shade Vortex The Black Vortex. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA, WA.	I shall give you guys the current file, even though I recently started on episode 2. Episode 1 and 6 are done, so there's a lot of information. And yes, it IS insanely long. Especially episode 6- I wrote down everything that the twin demons said, because of an interview with Ryu that said to pay attention to what they say and how they talk. http://www.pastebin.ca/1947064 Here it is, proof of my endeavor. I'm definitely gonna try to finish most of it before Episode 7 is translated by Witch Hunt, so that I can write down that episode's notes as well. Note that there might be some parts that use older translation patch text, so if there are any errors, that's why. There may also still be typos and such, but I'm doing my best. lol

2010-09-23, 00:10	Link #4689
Kamar Author Wannabe Join Date: Aug 2009	I'm guessing it wasn't meant to imply it was, since neither of the others is, being Japanese and Korean respectively.

2010-09-23, 02:20	Link #4692
Shade Vortex The Black Vortex. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA, WA.	For that part, I think I wrote it similarly to how Witch Hunt translated it. I don't feel like going back and checking, but I can always reword it to be less confusing if you guys would prefer that. Not a big deal. But yeah, what I meant was other than the Chinese martial arts, she has learned those martial arts as well, regardless of their origin.

2010-09-23, 17:25	Link #4694
Disz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Floor eh duh?	Hey...I'm pretty sure this must have been debated,but in EP5,can Hideyoshi be the man on the phone? Reading the EP1 notes,it DOES say he can change accents...