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And when you complain about a 9.7% unemployment rate, I can tell you now that funding is not going to go into these things. Plus I think saving planet Earth is a better idea than trying to save/terraform worlds that don't support our basic needs for life. The idea that planet Earth doesn't have enough space to accommodate us is ludicrous. Antarctica would be easier to settle than the Moon, let alone Mars. (And it has its fair share of extreme attributes.)
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In fact, exotic technology is difficult to replicate properly - one such example is the Chinese attempt to reverse engineer a number of Russian military technology, only to come up with inferior mass-produced hardware. Sending a satellite or shuttle into space isn't cheap. Most of the older satellites still use large amounts of gold foils and platinum plates in their construction, and try applying the concept of supply, demand and price over the last 30 years, with regards to all global economic shocks and hyperinflations taken into account, on the actual cost of sending something similar up there. Substitute for the materials are going to cost more for R&D and time involved because of the precise mass and inertness of the building materials involved - you can't just take any metal and replace the ones used to build the satellite. Quote:
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Also, it could force the communications industry to invest in laser communications, reducing the reliance on current fibre-optics or magnetic-metal systems, which are not enviromentally friendly when it comes to renovations and overhauls. Quote:
Shipping it back home is much easier than you think because of something called perpetual motion. I'll let you figure out how it works and can be applied to transportation - science fiction got it all wrong because they put their eyes too much into escape velocity. If we want consumerism to be the mainstay of our lives, and continue to use the Internet, space exploration for the sake of resources is inevitable. Recycling is so much harder than you think. Quote:
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China has the monopoly on production of R.E.E. And what of it? Known deposits are in Inner Mongolia, China, India, Australia and South Africa, mainly, but it doesn't mean that's the extent of R.E.E deposits throughout the world. Why would you assume that? The Chinese monopoly is temporary, and they have issued statements that they would scale back production levels for its exports. What this means: There will be funding for discovering new deposits and allow western companies to compete once more. Quote:
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Let's partake in that image. Don't you think that the 10% of people funding this whole operation would be the one, as per usual, benefiting from such an expansion? Quote:
I don't think return trips to planets inside the solar system would be very cheap, even considering perpetual motion. Quote:
Recycling, while costly, isn't a space-faring endeavor and will remain a cheaper alternative for the near future.
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2010-09-29, 06:05 | Link #9225 |
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He's doing pushups with a huge load and not expending much of his own strength, or even breaking his own back. Essentially this prototype allows an individual to lift many times more weight than he normally could without tiring or injuring himself. An Adeptus Astartes type suit is still a century or more away in my opinion though, but it's enough to get the inner Power Armor nerd in me going.
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2010-09-29, 06:10 | Link #9226 | |
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2010-09-29, 10:23 | Link #9227 | |
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But anyways I don't want to get into a debate about research of alternative energy versus 'space energy.' I think we should do both, with the former as our main focus but continue to put research into the latter. Like I said above, it is an investment for our grandchildren and further descendants. All I've really taken issue with is the idea that it is a fruitless venture to explore and research our options in space, when in reality it is not. |
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Also why would you terraform other planets? Space habitats are far superior. Quote:
Also, you're showing your short sightedness once again. As long as humanity is stuck on this ball of rock, we're a single large asteroid away from the end of human civilization. Quote:
There are lots of hydrocarbons that could be refined though. Like I said, there's little that can be found on Earth that cannot be found in space. Quote:
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But that's not what he suggested. Go back and read his post, he outright stated it was fruitless. Besides, I already agreed with this point in my last post. |
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What, you really think planet Earth is anywhere close to this (Coruscant)? Quote:
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@justsomeguy Thank you for your support, I was feeling a little bit attacked. :s
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Biomass: Renewable. Fossil fuels: Replaceable by renewables. (Biofuel, biomass, wind, solar, hydro) Metals: Non-renewable. Ind.&Con. Minerals: Slag is recyclable and can also be made into concrete. From the data I'm being shown, there's a need for greater efficiency, less waste, more recycling in order to make the most out of the resources at our disposal (Which are all things I fully support), but nothing mentioning impending doom if we do not start up a space program and start mining offworld in the next... what was it again? Quote:
Demand for these resources is prompting better management, renewables and recycling, not space programs, and I believe that's the right direction. I said it before and I'll say it again, we're nowhere near the depletion of resources on this planet, and those graphs are only talking about the amounts that we're currently exploiting, not the amounts lodged inside our earth that are still waiting to be discovered. These are an unknown variable. (From your links) Quote:
It will be a long time before our demand for metal is strong enough to warrant off-world exploitation. Ie I don't believe it is a waste of dollars to redirect funding to other endeavors in the aftermath of a financial crisis.
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Student commits suicide after his sexual encounter was webcast
In a nutshell: -A roommate and another friend placed a camera in his room which recorded a sexual encounter between the victim and another male. They streamed via a webcam. -He jumps of the George Washington Bridge
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2010-09-30, 09:41 | Link #9238 |
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Sounds like a practical joke gone to far? What a bunch of assholes. Though they couldn't have known he'd kill himself over it.
I really hate suicide. We've had a few in my family and it pisses me off every time. In most cases it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem and such a fucking waste.
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2010-09-30, 10:20 | Link #9240 | |
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In addition, I give my full condolences to the victim's family...
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