2011-02-22, 16:31 | Link #3101 | |
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I see Anh Minh thinks that an extremists is only one when violence is involved. If you don't like me calling Dawkins an extremist, can you at least see my point, without being too attached to words. A fundamentalist that is a Christian, who doesn't endorse violence but is over the top with their views and how they preach and promote them; think of someone like that. Dawkins is like an atheist version of said Christians. So maybe choosing the word extremist wasn't the best fit. But do you see my view now?
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2011-02-22, 16:40 | Link #3102 | |
I disagree with you all.
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2011-02-22, 17:03 | Link #3103 | |
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2011-02-23, 06:21 | Link #3106 | |
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I fall under the atheist category after being a Catholic when I was really young, then choosing to come away from it and being unsure (agnostic) to finally settling on atheism. But, to be honest, I'm pretty open--maybe when I'm older I'll become religious once more--but at the moment I think I'm to young to grasp on to a unifying theory.
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2011-02-23, 06:27 | Link #3107 |
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I'm straight up Christian. My parents were raised as Roman Catholics, but I converted as I attended youth group in my town.
There are so many Christians who are going about it the wrong way; you don't force somebody to become Christian, you don't get upset that somebody has a different view, and nowhere in the Bible did it say that one must attend church every Sunday to go to heaven. I have a friend who has a strong faith in Christianity but sometimes takes it a little too far. Just so you all know, I have quite a few atheist friends, and I rarely have time to attend church. However, I am a leader at the youth group that made me Christian to begin with. I volunteered at their summer camp for over 350 kids. Do I promote missing out on church? Absolutely not. Thing is, I don't mind any religious beliefs (okay, there's those that base their operations on terrorism, but the proper ones). You could believe in no religion or something that opposes my views completely; at the end we're all individual beings with separate views and ideals. I respect those who can stand up for themselves and speak out their religious views despite the unfair abuse that gets thrown back at them.
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2011-02-23, 07:05 | Link #3108 | |
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They just clearly don't know how to lead by example.
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2011-02-23, 07:11 | Link #3109 | |
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Leading by example is something my parents have difficulty doing, but it's something humans have trouble doing, so I never blame them.
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2011-02-23, 13:25 | Link #3110 | |
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i.e. the preachers whom feel the need to show up my college's campus and yell/scream at people though a megaphone in a rather disruptive way, and they've yelled at seemingly randomly picked people as victims to their verbal assaults, say things such they're damned to hell forever in a second of judgment by them, like a girl who was pregnant was targeted by them since she had sex, or another girl was because of simply the way she was dresses . Mind you this is an area of school where people are either going to/from class, or trying to eat, and recently they're don't care that they're being loud enough to disrupt some people in classes at the two near by buildings .
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2011-02-23, 13:36 | Link #3111 | |
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2011-02-23, 15:45 | Link #3113 | ||
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So then we get Christians saying something like, "Nowhere in the Bible did it say that one must do such-and-such to go to heaven, that means I don't have to do it." Now, I'm not saying that I do everything, far from it. Like, there are times where I would miss going to church or whatever. But I don't try to excuse such things by saying, "The Bible doesn't say I have to do it to go to heaven." Sometimes it's not just about me going to heaven myself. |
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2011-02-23, 16:22 | Link #3114 | |
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2011-02-23, 16:50 | Link #3115 |
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This is one reason I believe some of Christianity is outdated. It was used in the past (Middle ages) to control the general population to some extent. With images (Actual pictures) of hell as a threat. If you don't attend church on sunday you will suffer, despite most not being able to understand the bible (I believe it was mostly only in Latin).
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2011-02-24, 18:43 | Link #3117 | |
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Though I don't currently believe in god(s), if an event such as a proper miracle happens, then I think that I'd become a believer. But I found persons in my way that have said me things like "you won't get god manifistated if you don't belive in him" or "god doesn't need to show up anything but the creation to proove himselft", another things a bit hardbish like "you will discover that god exist when you burn in hell", I always answer that I'm sorry but I can't force myselft to belive in something I can't proove, isn't on my personality. As I think in myselft as a good person since I never hurt the others intentionally, I'm not afraid of suffering anything after death (if there is something) I enjoy my time here and now, not wondering which will happen after.
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2011-02-27, 13:41 | Link #3118 |
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I'm Moslem fairly and simple.
why? - because their god is one. - because weren't any incovenient rite for you to communicate with god. - easy to understand. why god command moslem lady to use hijab, or to grooming your beard? because god say so (dogmatic). - simple oh what about cyber beings or augments or clone or aliens does they have rigts to their salvation? yep they have, anyting that can think has equal chance to have their salvation.
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2011-02-27, 15:26 | Link #3119 | |
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