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2004-11-15, 16:51 | Link #22 | |
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2004-11-15, 17:34 | Link #23 |
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Apparently some of you don't know what it's like to be truly alone.
Sasuke's sorrow and misery turned into hatred for his brother. He thrives on hatred and has shut himself off from the world. He was given everything and yet he still acts the way he does. He's single minded about what he wants with his life. He's an avenger and that's how he's decided to live his life. To hell with everyone else. Naruto on the other hand, only knows emptyness and hatred from others. He never had anyone to hold him or anyone to be friends with. I don't think people understand that. In my opinion Naruto still feels hallow inside, even if he smiles all the time. Naruto would be worse than Gaara if it wasn't for his 'precious people'. Naruto has never been loved. Sasuke was and is, yet all he does is sit around and wallow in self pity. There is no comparison. Last edited by Kadius; 2004-11-15 at 21:55. Reason: I'm a perfectionist. |
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2004-11-15, 19:01 | Link #25 |
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i can understand why sasuke is kishimoto's favourite character design. because sasuke is full of conflict, he can be explored in both good and bad side.
naruto is the source of inspiration, sasuke is the source of conflict. perfect balance. they are a superb duo, much more than vegita and goku. with out sasuke the story would be boring and likewise for naruto. |
2004-11-15, 19:02 | Link #26 | |
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bad as it sounds but the concept isn't even human. To never have anyone care for you, thats too sad an existence. Like Haku said, the feeling of being an unwanted person is the greatest pain of all. Its just not human to go through life with noone to care for you. Even if you are hated and detested to the greatest extent by someone as long as their is someone to love you you have a reason to live. Even if they die you have a reason to live because they loved you and would have wanted you to be happy. To not have the at all is the same as being dead. Thats why Gaara had to find a reason to exist that went beyond being loved, he decided to love himself and screw everyone else(and kill them too). Thats what Kakashi was trying to tell Sasuke that even if he lost someone, everyone dearest to him he can still have companions. I think he has been pretty rational considering all that has happened to him, even willingly becoming a traitor is understandable. He is simply blinded by an ambition that was seeded in him, he won't fidn the light until he sees wht is really important now, whether he gets his revenge or not. But, Naruto had a horrible existence too before he redeemed himself. Its very different from Sasuke and thats why he doesn't understand him but it was painful. |
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2004-11-15, 19:27 | Link #27 |
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What people don't see or don't want to see is that Naruto DID have someone, he just was too blind by his self pity to see that he always had what he wanted. There were people who cared about him, my guess is it just wasn't want Naruto wanted. He wanted more, he wanted everyone to look at him. He sat and felt sorry for himself instead of truing trying to improve himself. I can understand Naruto's past, I grew up with very little. I suffer from chroinc illnesses, I have my whole life. I couldn't play with other kids, I was always looked at as the sick kid, don't go near her or you'll get sick. Parents didn't want their kids around me, because I was too much work. I couldn't go to school, I was taught at home, all I had was my parents and two close friends. I could have let this depress me, I could have felt sorry for myself, but I didn't, I didn't have as much as some, but what I did have I cherished.
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2004-11-15, 19:40 | Link #28 | |
Ninja Emperor
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Naruto wasn't blind to anything he was a victim. Being Hokage meant everyone HAD to respect him when before noone did. When he finally got acknowledged he cherished those bonds and thats why Sasuke is still important to him. They don't portray it, probably because its too depressing but even still the average villager hates Naruto, this innocent little 12 year old boy. He for one has my sympathy as a tragic charcter. Not as much as Sasuke because Naruto gained something but Sasuke lost too much. Yet still Naruto's life hasn't been peachy you can atleast acknowledge that. |
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2004-11-15, 19:46 | Link #29 | |
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PS: I put much of Naruto's treatment squarely on Sarotobi's shoulders. Given the unique properties of the Kyubbi, he should have arranged to raise Naruto in a nurturing environment while developing control of its powers from as an early an age as feasible. Imagine how strong Konoha would be with a fully dedicated Naruto trained since near-birth to control the Kyubbi. Forget Itachi or the Sannin, he would be the real deal... (: |
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2004-11-15, 19:47 | Link #30 |
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I can feel for him, I just also can be anrgy at him. It isn't up to others to improve your life, it's up to you. I know Naruto had to have care takers, he was a child, he wasn't just left to raise himself. He did always have the 3rd, and busy or not the 3rd would have made time for him and I'm sure he did, Naruto seemed to know the 3rd better than most the children. He did have Iruka, Iruka truely did care for Naruto, him being there even with his past with the fox demon shows how much he did care for Naruto.
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2004-11-15, 19:55 | Link #32 |
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The point I hate is how people can say, Naruto is so strong and Sasuke is so weak. Look at what Naruto went through and he doesn't act like Sasuke. It's not true, Naruto was bitter, he hated his life, the way people treated him. He felt sorry for himself and thought his life was the worst and no one could understand his pain. Just like Sasuke. He didn't save himself, he was saved. Naruto himself wondered if he could have become like Gaara if not for his friends saving him. He said he felt like Gaara did. Sasuke is the same as Naruto, he's not an evil person, or weak, he's human. He needs help, he needs to be saved.
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2004-11-15, 20:06 | Link #35 | |
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2004-11-15, 20:27 | Link #36 | |
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2004-11-15, 20:45 | Link #38 | |
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2004-11-15, 20:46 | Link #39 |
Such is life
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Tron bonne and Shurikenjay you both make good points that are actually true, so you are both basically right and are agreeing with each other because naruto's die hard determination makes him try to be the best he can be, in all areas,
So yes, he does hold his chin up and motivates himself but he also does want the fame and acknowledgement from the village so he tries his best to achieve that goal ie being a trouble maker. So naruto's determination drives him to his goal by using numerous methods because they will end up in the same destination which is him becoming hokage and being fully acknowledged by the village. |
2004-11-15, 20:56 | Link #40 |
i'm an avenger
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@ urashima sempai
i guess ur heartless. well i suffered much in my life and !!!I !! can cry to a sad movie/anime/manga/book even if im a guy. and why are people attrected to naruto manga/anime? like u know its not the action its the sad things. Sad stories open hearts of people!! also most of u sasuke hater liked haku but he was the same like sasuke so why are u against him he is a mislead person who use orichi to gain powwer and i think he will kill him after 3 years has past |
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