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Perfect 10 | 12 | 18.46% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 24.62% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 23 | 35.38% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 16.92% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 4.62% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-08-06, 09:17 | Link #81 | ||
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Even if Ruka's mom got the 2nd message, there's no way that the initial message could simply be erased from her head (considering how it really affect her child later on). She may just progress with eating more vegetables anyway. She may visit the doctor, or call her mother, which then suggest her to eat some weird stuffs instead. The process of all these activities can associate with risks that may just end Ruka's life, or the Ruka we all knows about. That's the truth danger of "buttlefly effect". (Notice that the case of Feyris dad have even larger amount of possible outcomes) However what we got in this anime is the strict and absolute controlled events that can not escalate more than unthoughtful decision and simple common sense of Okarin (or us reader/ audiences). It will be a little better if Okarin is showed to be a scientist nerd,who went to interview all concerned party,draw out all possible scenarios, design them carefully, and finally ready to take risk on the highest % chance. You knows something like real scientists actually will do, instead of just wearing lab coats, chatting on forum, and put together useless random stuffs. Then what really pushed my limit, is how they all come up to random cause which led to the disappearance of the IBM. With reasons like that, I can make dozens on the spot without knowing much background on the character:
PS: btw just want to say that. The anime and storyline is still OK. But now it's just too straight forward and is not as great as i thought it can play out
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2011-08-06, 12:11 | Link #82 |
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I sure wish one anime story line could be created without every goddamn chick in the show falling all over the main character, it's my biggest pet peeve and it completely killed the episode for me. I'm sure next episode will have Mayuri confessing her undying love to him and by the end of the series even the glasses chick will come out and say she killed Mayuri because she was jealous and is madly in love with Okarin. I long for the days of multiple strong male leads in anime.
But whatever, decent episode, I guess.
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2011-08-06, 14:55 | Link #83 | |||
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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1. What Okarin did was "unthoughtful" Why is Okarin's attempt at cancelling Ruka's D-mail "unthoughtful"? To me (as I explained in my previous post), it seems like a pretty good plan. You noted that the 2nd D-mail might not completely erase existence of the 1st; that is true, but there is also such a thing as a "degree" in a butterfly effect: the deviation appears very slowly if the initial condition is only slightly different. Okarin's attempt at reducing the initial condition change is already as good as any. Expecting him to do those things that you listed a "scientist nerd" would do would be completely out of character for him, IMO. 2. The author letting Okarin's "unthoughtful" plan succeed is a totalitarian act Even assuming that Okarin could have tried a better method, I don't see how it is tyrannical of the author to let him succeed on this method. You're right: some unforeseen consequences could have happened, and Ruka could have not become a trap again, but really, is it that necessary to throw all these random plottwists in there in order to be "realistic"? I guess if the author wanted to expand on Okarin's difficult journey, those are some elements s/he can introduce, but personally I don't think those are so necessary to the point that it's evil of the author not to include them. And one interesting thing I noticed is that, at the end of this episode, the world is reverted to the 0.523307 trap Ruka (but IBN missing) timeline. In the beginning, the trap Ruka (but IBN missing) timeline is 0.523299 (this can be checked from ep8). The author is smart enough to know that the 2nd D-mail doesn't completely wipe out the butterfly effect. Quote:
I can see why you don't like it though.
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2011-08-06, 17:35 | Link #84 |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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The explanation for that I saw was that even if Okarin sends himself a D-mail telling him not to create the machine that D-mail will still register on SERN's servers and make them investigate. So going and getting the IBN not only gets them off of SERN's network but let's them keep the D-mail technology.
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2011-08-07, 01:50 | Link #86 |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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I KNEW it.
Facebook takes over the world next episode. o___o Also. Why is anyone arguing "realism" about A TIME TRAVEL STORY? The time travel plot device is usually used so the author can play with themes of determinism and free will. Thus it does whatever the hell the author wants it to do. Since time travel, um, doesn't exist (yet), I'm personally going to disregard "realism" in the time travel mechanics and willingly suspend my disbelief so long as it's internally consistent.
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2011-08-07, 04:29 | Link #87 |
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Join Date: May 2010
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The trouble with deleting the first dmail is that kurisu will end up dead (suzuha kills her when she doesn't crash?). But also there's another way that Okabe can time travel or something as Kurisu said she saw him just before yet he had no recollection of that happening (maybe it was future him)?
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2011-08-07, 13:04 | Link #88 |
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Wow, if this shows pace keeps up (and really it is impeccably paced...neither too slow or too fast) and the quality of the characters and writing stay the same as in this current arc it'll probably go down as my favorite anime based on a visual novel of all time. Higurashi currently holds that title, but considering how downhill that franchise has gone I think it's opened up the gate quite nicely for a new fave.
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2011-08-07, 21:16 | Link #93 |
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Next thing you'll tell me is that Madhouse made a terrible adaptation of Steins;Gate's predecessor and caused people to be skeptical about this show. Or that Haruhi had the audacity to repeat the same episode eight times.
Nobody could possibly be that stupid. I have no time for this nonsense. "You're always super special...that's why you are here with me." Alright, who sent a dmail causing all this crap to be made? Change it back. Now.
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2011-08-07, 23:47 | Link #95 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Hey guys, for some reason the OP sounds very familiar to me. I know there is some song that is very very similar to this one, and I feel like I've heard it in an old anime but I can't just grasp what it was. Does anyone else know what i'm talking about?
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2011-08-08, 01:43 | Link #97 |
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But I wouldn't be doing my job then. Crap, I need to use more emoticons; I think my sarcasm has failed this time.
Anyhow, I can't wait for the next episode of an actually good anime-- this one.
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2011-08-09, 00:15 | Link #99 |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Because... he's a gay?
Btw, we having new episode today.... damn, I could stick my ass on the chair and wait all day to be the first one to watch Oh, and a good thing's we're finally about to see Okabe's striking back Moeka. That's what I've been waiting all this time
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