2011-08-07, 14:40 | Link #21 | |
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Anyway wanting One Piece to end now is retarded, just plain retarded. I'm not talking about quality wise which is subjective but the fact there's vast amount of things that need resolve far more than the vast majority of shounen manga's. If the manga ended next chapter it would make zero sense and not warp up anything. Even a hundred chapters would still leave a large amount of loose ends and vast amount of characters underdeveloped. It requires hundreds of chapters to properly wrap up the story currently. Hence why wanting it to end now is just plain stupid. One piece is one of those rare manga's that was conceptualized and written long term. Oda has the vast majority of the story mapped out in his mind, considering how large the manga is and will be that's a massive feat. It's also deeply linked. oda can leave very subtle hints for things that will happen a decade later. And there's hundreds of these things. It's an epic in every sense of the word. Last edited by Tenchi Hou Take; 2011-08-07 at 17:30. |
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2011-08-07, 15:49 | Link #23 |
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Yeah MB got much better since the last arc or two, I feel it can still go on for a while without dropping in quality.
So, mangas I think need to end: Defense Devil - the plot got wrapped up in ch.100, just call the protagonist missing/dead/gone and end it with his successors, taking it any further is just unnecessary. Bleach - like others have mentioned, the end of Aizen should have been the end of bleach, it would have left mixed feelings but I'd most certainly remember it for the good parts. Bakuman - I love this manga, but the story's been going in circles lately, the plot feels dry and there's little to no development when it comes to characters, only repetition of their traits, good and bad. Can't wait to see it end before it gets noticeably bad. HSDK - The battles feel a lot less realistic than what they used to, and I've been feeling the end closing near ever since the first yami confrontation...talk about slow :P |
2011-08-07, 15:54 | Link #24 | |
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Yep double checked the chapter, it says the series is over on the last page.
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2011-08-07, 15:55 | Link #25 | |
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I hope it ends soon. I do like this manga as well, and I'd rather see it end when it's still going good. I think the latest arc with Niizuma ending Crow is an expression by the authors about their wishes |
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2011-08-07, 16:59 | Link #26 | |
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2011-08-07, 17:25 | Link #27 | |
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The rest of the post is just totally uneeded for this thread. You blew my statement amount One piece not having many rescue arcs way out of proportion. It's pointless. I didn't make my post to argue about whether One piece is good or not. Also btw I meant the phrase an epic in it's traditional sense story wise as in a long large scale story with dozens of characters(which in actuality has nothing to do with said stories quality just it's scale). Which One piece is factually, I did not mean it in it's more modern context of amazingly awesome or whatever. Thought I should just clear that up. Last edited by Tenchi Hou Take; 2011-08-07 at 17:38. |
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2011-08-07, 18:13 | Link #28 |
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Look. I apologize if I overreacted. Let me clarify my point as well. Obviously, One Piece cannot end at this very moment since it would not make sense and leave many things unanswered. I did not mean a series should end right in the middle of an arc just because I want it to end. But, the thing I get tired of in regards to One Piece are the many rescue/saving arcs the series has. You mentioned that One Piece has 2 arcs in which they are dedicated to rescuing someone. Even if the series is over 600 pages long some of those rescue and saving arcs span across several chapters/pages. The rescue arcs I think of are the Nami, Nico, and Ace arcs which are dedicated rescue arcs. Then there is the saving arcs which include Alabasta and Fishman Island where Luffy and company have to save the princess from the overtaking of their respective kingdom. I for one don't like that aspect of repeating similar arc themes in the series even if the location and characters are different. One Piece is not the only series where this happens. A lot of other shonen's do it but I want a arc where its pure adventure without the hook of saving or rescuing someone. This might seem dumb, ridiculous or not a fair assessment of the seres but that's what I think.
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2011-08-07, 18:48 | Link #29 | |
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Of course whether One piece needs to be as long as it is and have as many arcs as it does is up to anyones personal persception. I will however say Oda generally makes a good amount of use of his characters in these arcs and will generally have at least some role later on in the story often a major role. So you could argue that many of these arcs will be extremely important to the plot and that most have been so far. Anyway we're getting off topic but a decent discussion none the less. |
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2011-08-08, 13:40 | Link #31 | |
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Throwing my hat in for Bakuman after the latest chapter failed to impress. Seems like the well's run dry on that one. Wouldn't mind a Hiramaru spinoff though.
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2011-08-08, 16:56 | Link #32 |
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Case Closed doesn't need to end. What you guys call plot is just the special/movie plot (it's more of subplot then anything). The actual plot are all the short story arcs; that's what all the fans give a damn about. Yeah yeah, the black organization is all exciting every now and then but it's still the mysteries and characters that do all the heavy lifting.
Bleach is lame, and has been lame for a while. It should have just ended, or at least time skipped to the future and some new story. Naruto is fine, it has smooth plot and everything makes sense overall, so who can complain. The only crappy part about it are all the power level shenanigans, but pretty much every manga in history had the same problem so not much fault there. One Piece is fine. Berserk, maybe.
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2011-08-09, 10:52 | Link #33 |
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Meitantei Conan -
Too much filler created for happy ending for all casts. At least, Aoyama-sensei should try to make a scheduled important arc. One Piece - I'm tired seeing how a lot of characters come with a lot of terms come. I'm starting OP because the adventure theme is interesting and free, Now it comes a lot of terms, rebellion plot, government plot, etc. Is it really hard to come with a simple terms but comes with a deep development ? Sorry for OP fans. Bleach - Too much trolling after defeating Aizen. Sorry for Bleach fans HunterXHunter - The development starts to be going into an unresponsible development. I'd much more prefer Hunter Exam arc and Gen'ei Ryodan arc better than the current arc. |
2011-08-18, 20:47 | Link #37 |
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Agreed. I still wonder why Medaka Box keep on living besides fans want it to.
I still defending why Detective Conan need to end. One reason that really bugs me that Ran had many chances to discover that Conan's true identity but it never pursued. |
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