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2011-02-17, 11:00 | Link #82 |
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TheFluff, High10 supporting ffmpegsource2 build now. Which ffmpeg commit marked the finish of High10 support?
A few days ago, Dark Shikari indicated it was still being worked on, but nowhere was I expecting it to be finished so quickly. That's great news if it's been completed so soon.
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2011-02-17, 18:32 | Link #83 | |
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JEEB made a 10-bit ffms2 compile but for some reason YV12 output doesn't want to work; you have to convert to RGB32. That's probably caused by a bug in ffms2, which I'll have a look at fixing.
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2011-02-17, 18:38 | Link #84 |
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Really? Are fansubbers so keen for High10 support that they'll immediately make the jump even if most of their audience gets left behind? A lot of people (like me) probably don't plan to upgrade their ffmpeg until CCCP 2011-11-11 comes out, so High10 must have some massive benefit to justify such fast adoption.
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2011-02-18, 05:33 | Link #85 | |
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Chances are that as soon as 10 bit lands in FFDshow-tryouts, and it appears to be 'working correctly', CCCP will release a new CCCP Beta containing 10 bit support. If it then passes decoding various odd-ball samples and fansub encodes over the course of 2-3 months, a new CCCP will be released. This could mean a new CCCP build no later than June 2011 if everything is bug-free. CCCP 2009-09-09 was released for support of WeightP decoding. CCCP 2010-10-10 was a forced release, a year later, to keep things modern. Just because the last versions of CCCP were 2009-09-09 and 2010-10-10, doesn't mean the next version will be 2011-11-11. Just like WeightP support, we should have High10 support in CCCP sooner rather than later, if the fansub groups behind CCCP (which includes gg and TheFluff, among others) decide they want it. @TheFluff Did they decide to add some nice 10-bit to 8-bit dithering to the decoding chain, or is the conversion still being done without dithering?
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2011-02-18, 17:46 | Link #86 | |
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Anyway, thanks for the informative reply. Although when I read my previous post now it sounds like sarcasm, it was actually meant as a serious question - I know encoders are caught between "you suck, why don't you make use of the latest features" and "you suck, why don't your encodes work on my ancient outdated player", so I figured there had to be more to this than 10-bit depth if people are seriously considering switching. Still, from my layman's perspective a new CCCP release is the pragmatic point for groups to make breaking changes. But maybe I just overestimate its importance and enough of the audience use more recent codec builds to justify early adoption?
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2011-02-18, 18:52 | Link #87 |
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CCCP is important. Realistically, all the groups which support CCCP should wait for a new build, before releasing anything which is 10 bit exclusive. This of course only applies to the groups listed here.
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2011-07-31, 16:31 | Link #88 |
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The first stable build of CCCP officially supporting 10-bit (hi10p) h264 was released today.
Go grab CCCP 2011-07-30 now, so aren't greeted with blocking and corruption when many groups switch to 10-bit next season. Code:
New CCCP Win7/Vista/XP Release! (2011-07-30) New development, ho! Lord has been a true Hero of the Workforce, and we have for the first time actually added new features to FFDShow-tryouts! A brand new hi10p-compatible CCCP for Win7/Vista/XP, codename "A legend reborn"! Updated components: FFDShow-tryouts 1.1.3951 MPC-HC 1.5.3.3514 VSFilter 2.40.3514.3 General changelog: Support for our beloved 10-bit stuff (hi10p support) in FFDShow-tryouts has been added. Color space matching priorities have been switched for 420P ("YV12"), to prefer YUV formats before RGB in order to minimize the possibility of libswscale RGB conversion with hi10p material. Playback of certain matroska clips, that incorrectly used to play at 25fps, has been fixed with FFDShow-tryouts. CCCP Settings and VSFilter have been adjusted for the new pre-buffering changes. Default is still no buffer, and the checkbox sets it to 10 when enabled (buffering set to other values made subtitles blink for users). The settings application currently, in case of the buffering value being non-zero, will reset the value to 10. For those who are waiting for CoreAVC, version 3.0 which supports hi10p should be coming within the next month. Anybody who buys 2.x now will get a free upgrade. Anybody who bought CoreAVC outside 60 days of the release of 3.0 will need to buy the new version at full price (currently CoreCodec has no plans for a discounted upgrade).
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2011-07-31, 17:47 | Link #89 | |
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/edit: latest (unstable) releases of VLC also support 10-bit H.264 now. |
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2011-08-05, 02:19 | Link #90 |
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H.264 10bit is useless without DXVA support. Why break compatibility just for marginal improvements on color depth in video? It's not like encoders go for filesize reduction nowadays in the age of 2TB hard drives.
Also, Intel Atoms cannot run 1080p H.264 encodes. It's impossible. And people who say that 1080p can run on 2005 Athlons, give me a break. That's impossible too unless you're using DXVA. No amount of FFDshow "multi thread" decoding will help. CPU decoding is a waste of resources.
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and GPU decoding has retarded limitations. tl;dr: u dum
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2011-08-15, 22:51 | Link #93 |
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I just upgraded my system to the new version of CCCP 2011-7-30 and for some reason every time that I open a video it wont play, it would just go to stop. So I went to MPC-HC view-> options and changed the output to system default instead of the EVR - Custom Press and it seems to work now. Does anybody know whats going and how I can make it work with EVR - CP again?
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2011-08-15, 23:18 | Link #96 |
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Have you tried installing the latest DirectX Runtimes?
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=35 (beware of Bing bar that you can chose not to install) Also, try do a reset of settings using the CCCP Settings application: Close all media related applications and then, Start-> Combined...-> CCCP Settings-> Next-> Tick 'Reset' and 'Re-register'-> Apply-> Yes. |
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