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klare · 2011-09-11, 09:18

good job Saya, for making sure all the innocent ones are dead and left us with the most suspicious ones, but still i dont know what is going on... haha...

Tokizane is too much, every time he sees Saya he keeps touching and hugging her

ZenAkuNoAkira · 2011-09-11, 12:19

I am just going to name the Dog, Watanuki as
1. It's Clamp
2. Same Voice Actors
3. 90% it is Watanuki, The Dog itself stated in Episode 5 or something ".... I can only appear the way I am because of Saya's / Someone's Wish" Therefore it is not a Dog
4. 10% that it is someone with simular abilites as to Watanuki who also happens to own a shop that grant wishes

In Episode 8 / 9
I have consider
Saya MIGHT BE Not human
sorry
let me re phase what I just said
because Of Course Saya is not Human
but what I want to say is Saya may not be a Real living Creature

I see a Theory during the Episodes

What if
Fumito + Father + Mother of Saya used to be toegether
they either are against the Elder Bairn
or they are with them

but somehow
Fumito + Father + Mother of Saya were Betrayed by the Elder Bairn for some sort of reason that leads to the death of Saya's Mother
Fumito + Father decided to fight and Kill the Elder Bairn

The twist in this is
It was Fumito who finished off Saya's Mother live
this would put Fumito the Mastermind

anyway
The Father really does love the Mother
He wanted her to be alive again
He somehow came aware of Watanuki / The Dog
and so he went to Watanuki hoping that he can bring Mother figure back to live

But

In the World of Clamp

Spoiler for series:

Back to topic
the whole point is
No Magic in the world can bring back or stop someone from dying
but somehow
Watanuki was able to Grant the father's wish
Not fully Of Course
as it comes with catches

Father's Wish is so that the Mother does not die

So what watanuki did is either

1.) Created a Doll / Vampire Doll which can let Mother's Soul to live in it
or
2.) Something to do with maybe turning back the time of the Body
therefore Mother who is actually Saya is younger than Father

I reckon number 2.) is wrong or unlikely
as that should not be able to stop a person from dying
so let's go with the Doll's Idea 1.)
so to summarise

<<<Father's Wish is so that the Mother does not die

Watanuki's Solution is
<<< Created a Doll / Vampire Doll which can let Mother's Soul to live in it

AND HERE IS THE CATCH
as everything / every wish needs an equal amount in order for it to be granted
Saya's Father who were once a very strong Elder Bairn / Vampire / Magician or whatever he was

He has to lose his ability to fight
along with
The Soul of the Mother will not have any Memory of the father or her past life

Reticia · 2011-09-11, 12:29

Spoiler:

Nina.Wolken · 2011-09-11, 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reticia

Spoiler:

We would, if that hadn't been speculated right away when Watanu-dog (?) started speaking... 3 weeks ago.

DezoPenguin · 2011-09-11, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by liro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xagzan

^ That's got to be the worst virus protector ever

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion

Given Saya's track record, I wouldn't recommend using this.

Clearly it will allow the virus to invade your computer and destroy all of your data, and then it will slag down the computer in order to make sure that the virus is destroyed.

Guido · 2011-09-11, 16:52

Unfortunately, I cannot join you in the debate going around the CLAMPverse, because I do know that Blood-C is being intertwined with all themes that were presented in xxxHolic, Tsubasa Reservoir -Chronicles-, and possibly Card Captor Sakura.

I was never a fan of xxxHolic, though by no means I suggest it was a boring manga. On the contrary, I believe that xxxHolic was CLAMP's latest masterpiece up to this date, after X.

What I'm saying is that since my knowledge of xxxHolic is virtually scarce to nothing, hence, I cannot join in the conspircacy theories regarding Saya in Blood-C.
However, I do agree that Saya's definitely not human. Second, it isn't farfetch'd to conceive or consider the theme that Saya either is an artificial being, man-made created whether be through science, magic, or alchemy; or Saya's being dead for a long time, (for reference to long-dead characters who forgot that they die you can watch Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae, as an example I present), but she forgot about the date and circumstances of her death.
Or another possibility is that the real, human Saya is dead or got killed, and this current Saya is non-human but created to the likeness and image of the human Saya that existed previously, and that was ages ago.

Whatever the case, again Saya's inner world turned into a crapsack world. The massacre now costed Yuka's life, therefore, it wouldn't be surprising that in the next episode or the one after the next either class-rep or Tokizane or both get killed in a single stroke.

Guys, I don't know any of you, but this particular shot of Saya got me absolutely creeped and freaked out.

And, how come that everytime I listen to the Furukimono's haunting aria theme song, that score reminds me of House of the Dead, the first two games?

BTW, in the preview for the next episode didn't anyone catch a glimpse of the next Furukimono bearing a semblance to Diva ?

Derringer · 2011-09-11, 17:40

The Blood franchise has always been very interesting to me. Everything related to it is original material with only few shared aspects : a female named Saya who slays creatures with a sword and lots of blood. We have background information from novels and manga, as well as new interpretations of it in the form of animated works and a live action movie, but no actual sequels.

It's as if there's a mandate that if you want to create something related to Blood, you are to watch only the OVA and then make something that has a female named Saya who slays creatures with a sword and lots of blood, but you are not bound at all to any continuity.

ZenAkuNoAkira · 2011-09-12, 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reticia

Spoiler:

Yeah that's a possiblity that I considered at a point , but If that is the case,
That would mean that Tsubasa plays a major role in Blood-C and I disbelieve Clamp would do that so I discarded any theories with regard to that point.

And knowing that

Spoiler for Series:

Ravenblitz · 2011-09-12, 06:16

Spoiler for newtype scan:

Kasirgan · 2011-09-12, 10:53

Awww, and I hoped that Tokizane would get killed soon... no such luck I guess. Or at least not until we know what's actually up with him.

On another note, if I turn down the brightness of my screen it looks like Tokizane has a ponytail. Is it just me or does he look better that way?

klare · 2011-09-12, 11:27

he also looks like having long hair over his shoulders, like a samurai^^

Saya must be wearing her number 100th spare school uniform

Velsy · 2011-09-12, 13:28

I think yous are being too hard on Saya. She has been fighting some really OP monsters. This battle alot of the students died to their own stupidity... when Saya yells get out! you get out.... Don't just stand there watching like a spectator, and running to the roof was such a stupid idea. What are you going to do on the roof ? wait for teh chopper ?. Run down you idiots... not up! I beleive alot of the deaths were just poor choices from the classmates.

That being said, I think Sayas major mistake was her slow initiative at the begining. Three students died before she even drew her sword. Students got killed when she was on the defense or when she suffered from those terrible migrains which had such bad timing. Its how it got away to the roof.

You can't say that she didnt try. The big disavantage I have noticed and its merly my *own" speculation.. Is her red eye ability which increases her vampirc strength, only comes out in certain parts of a battle, more or so when her emtions get rattled up. Makes me think, being unaware of her vampiric nature, she doesnt know how to control the ability very well. Because if she used that from start to finish. Her battles would be much easier. Otherwise I just dont understand why Saya never uses it throughout the whole battle.

konart · 2011-09-15, 13:08

Spoiler for 10:

karinvampire · 2011-09-15, 13:16

Well,well,well

Spoiler for quick notes for 10:

ookamigirl · 2011-09-15, 13:56

Everyone keeps on dying around her..
Identity crisis still unresolved.
People around her were acting kinda unusual, like they're all hiding something.
At least now she knows her life is fake.

Nina.Wolken · 2011-09-15, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by konart

Spoiler for 10:

He might not be the only one.

Spoiler for ep 10:

Episode wasn't bad. Would have been much better if we had this kind of development 4 or 5 episodes ago however.
I get this irritating feeling this anime could have been great but potential got totally wasted. Whoever wrote such scenario and/or directed this serie seriously should reflect on that semi(?)disaster.

LKK · 2011-09-15, 14:56

Well now. The end of episode 10 has forced me to reevaluate the teacher. Previously, I had her grouped with Cafe-guy and Father in the working to deceive Saya camp. But now... I don't think she's with the Elder Bairns. I think she represents a third party, probably related to the plane that flew overhead in the last episode. If she is with Cafe-guy and Father, then she's breaking ranks with them for her own reasons. As for the reappearance, I never expected that to happen. But I'm not really shocked that it did for some reason. I'm more surprised that lover-boy was dispatched so suddenly. Of course, now I have wonder if it's a permanent dispatch or not. I know a lot of people are tired of all the questions and lack of answers, but I'm loving how each episode brings us a new facet to the mystery.

karinvampire · 2011-09-15, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by LKK

Well now. The end of episode 10 has forced me to reevaluate the teacher. Previously, I had her grouped with Cafe-guy and Father in the working to deceive Saya camp. But now... I don't think she's with the Elder Bairns. I think she represents a third party, probably related to the plane that flew overhead in the last episode. If she is with Cafe-guy and Father, then she's breaking ranks with them for her own reasons. As for the reappearance, I never expected that to happen. But I'm not really shocked that it did for some reason. I'm more surprised that lover-boy was dispatched so suddenly. Of course, now I have wonder if it's a permanent dispatch or not. I know a lot of people are tired of all the questions and lack of answers, but I'm loving how each episode brings us a new facet to the mystery.

Spoiler for tokizane:

Slick_rick · 2011-09-15, 15:35

Tokizane is definitely going to be back. I didn't buy his death for one second during the episode. I'll place $5 on Saya being the one to finish him, the teacher and the rest of these jokers off next episode then we'll only have to deal with Fumito and the father most likely.

It was an O.K episode overall but nothing really great. Still didn't get any answer but since we only have 2 episodes to go we should at least get something next week. At least I hope!

I do wonder if Nono and Nene are just illusions but it's hard to know. If they aren't I'd least like to know how they were able to fake their deaths. It might mean not only are the humans in on it but the Elder Bairns too. It makes sense in someway cause the one from last episode was basically aiming for Saya's classmates and ignoring opportunities to kill her.

Key Board · 2011-09-15, 16:23

I'm feeling like Saya now

How much of this is real, and how much of this is all in her head

2011-09-11, 09:18	Link #1021
klare Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	good job Saya, for making sure all the innocent ones are dead and left us with the most suspicious ones, but still i dont know what is going on... haha... Tokizane is too much, every time he sees Saya he keeps touching and hugging her __________________

2011-09-11, 12:19	Link #1022
ZenAkuNoAkira Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I am just going to name the Dog, Watanuki as 1. It's Clamp 2. Same Voice Actors 3. 90% it is Watanuki, The Dog itself stated in Episode 5 or something ".... I can only appear the way I am because of Saya's / Someone's Wish" Therefore it is not a Dog 4. 10% that it is someone with simular abilites as to Watanuki who also happens to own a shop that grant wishes In Episode 8 / 9 I have consider Saya MIGHT BE Not human sorry let me re phase what I just said because Of Course Saya is not Human but what I want to say is Saya may not be a Real living Creature I see a Theory during the Episodes What if Fumito + Father + Mother of Saya used to be toegether they either are against the Elder Bairn or they are with them but somehow Fumito + Father + Mother of Saya were Betrayed by the Elder Bairn for some sort of reason that leads to the death of Saya's Mother Fumito + Father decided to fight and Kill the Elder Bairn The twist in this is It was Fumito who finished off Saya's Mother live this would put Fumito the Mastermind anyway The Father really does love the Mother He wanted her to be alive again He somehow came aware of Watanuki / The Dog and so he went to Watanuki hoping that he can bring Mother figure back to live But In the World of Clamp Spoiler for series: if you have read xxxHolic or Tsbasa or even Card Captor Sakura all three are linked Not even Clow Reed the strongest Magician known could bring back a person back to live E.g. Yuuko from XXxholic is dead but because of Clow Reed's magic he was able to stop time so that Yuuko does not die but when Fei Wang Reed destroy the whole time space Rule Yuuko's time started again Back to topic the whole point is No Magic in the world can bring back or stop someone from dying but somehow Watanuki was able to Grant the father's wish Not fully Of Course as it comes with catches Father's Wish is so that the Mother does not die So what watanuki did is either 1.) Created a Doll / Vampire Doll which can let Mother's Soul to live in it or 2.) Something to do with maybe turning back the time of the Body therefore Mother who is actually Saya is younger than Father I reckon number 2.) is wrong or unlikely as that should not be able to stop a person from dying so let's go with the Doll's Idea 1.) so to summarise <<<Father's Wish is so that the Mother does not die Watanuki's Solution is <<< Created a Doll / Vampire Doll which can let Mother's Soul to live in it AND HERE IS THE CATCH as everything / every wish needs an equal amount in order for it to be granted Saya's Father who were once a very strong Elder Bairn / Vampire / Magician or whatever he was He has to lose his ability to fight along with The Soul of the Mother will not have any Memory of the father or her past life

2011-09-11, 12:29	Link #1023
Reticia Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: France	Spoiler: Saya is one of TRC Sakura's feathers. You read it here first. __________________ Anata wa Shinjitsu wo Shira no Mono You are the only one who doesn't know the truth

2011-09-11, 16:52	Link #1026
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Against My Wish Unfortunately, I cannot join you in the debate going around the CLAMPverse, because I do know that Blood-C is being intertwined with all themes that were presented in xxxHolic, Tsubasa Reservoir -Chronicles-, and possibly Card Captor Sakura. I was never a fan of xxxHolic, though by no means I suggest it was a boring manga. On the contrary, I believe that xxxHolic was CLAMP's latest masterpiece up to this date, after X. What I'm saying is that since my knowledge of xxxHolic is virtually scarce to nothing, hence, I cannot join in the conspircacy theories regarding Saya in Blood-C. However, I do agree that Saya's definitely not human. Second, it isn't farfetch'd to conceive or consider the theme that Saya either is an artificial being, man-made created whether be through science, magic, or alchemy; or Saya's being dead for a long time, (for reference to long-dead characters who forgot that they die you can watch Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae, as an example I present), but she forgot about the date and circumstances of her death. Or another possibility is that the real, human Saya is dead or got killed, and this current Saya is non-human but created to the likeness and image of the human Saya that existed previously, and that was ages ago. Whatever the case, again Saya's inner world turned into a crapsack world. The massacre now costed Yuka's life, therefore, it wouldn't be surprising that in the next episode or the one after the next either class-rep or Tokizane or both get killed in a single stroke. Guys, I don't know any of you, but this particular shot of Saya got me absolutely creeped and freaked out. And, how come that everytime I listen to the Furukimono's haunting aria theme song, that score reminds me of House of the Dead, the first two games? BTW, in the preview for the next episode didn't anyone catch a glimpse of the next Furukimono bearing a semblance to Diva ?

2011-09-11, 17:40	Link #1027
Derringer Bluefin Distribution Scanlator Join Date: Nov 2006	The Blood franchise has always been very interesting to me. Everything related to it is original material with only few shared aspects : a female named Saya who slays creatures with a sword and lots of blood. We have background information from novels and manga, as well as new interpretations of it in the form of animated works and a live action movie, but no actual sequels. It's as if there's a mandate that if you want to create something related to Blood, you are to watch only the OVA and then make something that has a female named Saya who slays creatures with a sword and lots of blood, but you are not bound at all to any continuity. __________________ www.bluefincorp.com www.facebook.com/Tamashii.usa

2011-09-12, 06:16	Link #1029
Ravenblitz \|･ω･`) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Getting there	Spoiler for newtype scan: __________________

2011-09-12, 10:53	Link #1030
Kasirgan Combat Detective IN SPACE Join Date: Jun 2010	Awww, and I hoped that Tokizane would get killed soon... no such luck I guess. Or at least not until we know what's actually up with him. On another note, if I turn down the brightness of my screen it looks like Tokizane has a ponytail. Is it just me or does he look better that way?

2011-09-12, 11:27	Link #1031
klare Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	he also looks like having long hair over his shoulders, like a samurai^^ Saya must be wearing her number 100th spare school uniform __________________

2011-09-12, 13:28	Link #1032
Velsy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	I think yous are being too hard on Saya. She has been fighting some really OP monsters. This battle alot of the students died to their own stupidity... when Saya yells get out! you get out.... Don't just stand there watching like a spectator, and running to the roof was such a stupid idea. What are you going to do on the roof ? wait for teh chopper ?. Run down you idiots... not up! I beleive alot of the deaths were just poor choices from the classmates. That being said, I think Sayas major mistake was her slow initiative at the begining. Three students died before she even drew her sword. Students got killed when she was on the defense or when she suffered from those terrible migrains which had such bad timing. Its how it got away to the roof. You can't say that she didnt try. The big disavantage I have noticed and its merly my *own" speculation.. Is her red eye ability which increases her vampirc strength, only comes out in certain parts of a battle, more or so when her emtions get rattled up. Makes me think, being unaware of her vampiric nature, she doesnt know how to control the ability very well. Because if she used that from start to finish. Her battles would be much easier. Otherwise I just dont understand why Saya never uses it throughout the whole battle.

2011-09-15, 13:08	Link #1033
konart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Moscow, RU Age: 35	Spoiler for 10: Lol Takizane, you are dead now. __________________

2011-09-15, 13:16	Link #1034
karinvampire Ka Ra Ku Ri Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Boogie down Bronx	Well,well,well Spoiler for quick notes for 10: Tokizane is dead but that DOESN'T REALLY MATTER,trust me. Cafe guy is suspicious as always. Saya's father disappears. At the request of Tsutsutori-Sensei, Saya takes her to the shrine. Saya realizes the old history books in her shrine are fake. Nene&Nono pop up alive at the end to confirm that everything is fake. Basically doesn't matter who died thus far because they weren't real to began with. Preview suggest that Tsutsutori-Sensei,with the help of the twins (and maybe tokizane,yuka,etc) is about to seriously mind rape (and molest) Saya.

2011-09-15, 13:56	Link #1035
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Everyone keeps on dying around her.. Identity crisis still unresolved. People around her were acting kinda unusual, like they're all hiding something. At least now she knows her life is fake. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2011-09-15, 14:56	Link #1037
LKK Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 62	Well now. The end of episode 10 has forced me to reevaluate the teacher. Previously, I had her grouped with Cafe-guy and Father in the working to deceive Saya camp. But now... I don't think she's with the Elder Bairns. I think she represents a third party, probably related to the plane that flew overhead in the last episode. If she is with Cafe-guy and Father, then she's breaking ranks with them for her own reasons. As for the reappearance, I never expected that to happen. But I'm not really shocked that it did for some reason. I'm more surprised that lover-boy was dispatched so suddenly. Of course, now I have wonder if it's a permanent dispatch or not. I know a lot of people are tired of all the questions and lack of answers, but I'm loving how each episode brings us a new facet to the mystery. __________________ Avatar: Hazuki of Natsuyuki Rendezvous / Signature: flowers from Natsuyuki Rendezvous

2011-09-15, 15:35	Link #1039
Slick_rick Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philadelphia, Pa	Tokizane is definitely going to be back. I didn't buy his death for one second during the episode. I'll place $5 on Saya being the one to finish him, the teacher and the rest of these jokers off next episode then we'll only have to deal with Fumito and the father most likely. It was an O.K episode overall but nothing really great. Still didn't get any answer but since we only have 2 episodes to go we should at least get something next week. At least I hope! I do wonder if Nono and Nene are just illusions but it's hard to know. If they aren't I'd least like to know how they were able to fake their deaths. It might mean not only are the humans in on it but the Elder Bairns too. It makes sense in someway cause the one from last episode was basically aiming for Saya's classmates and ignoring opportunities to kill her. __________________

2011-09-15, 16:23	Link #1040
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm feeling like Saya now How much of this is real, and how much of this is all in her head __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell