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ars89 · 2011-10-06, 21:07

Haven't played the game, but know about it from a friend. Igor was creepy. Narukami's persona looks pretty bad-ass. Hanamura is pretty funny. Satonaka is my favorite so far. Nanako was so cute, especially when she was singing that song. I couldn't help but laugh when they showed the dead body spiked on an antenna. The bear was funny and cute.

rpgman1 · 2011-10-06, 21:24

Pretty fast-paced compared to the game. My brother couldn't understand what was going on since he never played P4. At least it seems pretty faithful to the game, but unless you played the game people think it is another generic anime with action and comedy.

DragoonKain3 · 2011-10-06, 21:33

As a game player, there's just one thing I don't like about the anime: Narukami's depictions. I dunno, but I've always pictured him as a badass delinquent or something like that, going by part of his looks, the artwork of his persona Izanagi, and the choices you're given in the game is either the loser way or the badass way. Compare this with P3 MC, in which you get the idea that he's the quiet emo guy, but for some reason Narukami is more acting like I expect P3 MC to act lol.

For example, man, it felt REALLY wrong not to have Narukami tell off the teacher. One of the few little details that made me think P4 MC is a no-nonsense character, since P3 MC didn't even have anything remotely as close as badass as that for his entire game, while P4 MC had TONS of choices like those.

But yeah, just minor gripes, since supposedly MC is a blank slate. That said, I actually can watch this despite knowing what's going to happen, mainly because it's with Japanese dubs and it's different from the English ones. I still say English is a notch better, as English Igor is WAY creepier than this one.

And to those who played the game...

Spoiler:

Goty · 2011-10-06, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Sciel

Lastly, Yui Horie as Chie = so much win. Never really liked her with the english VA in the game but this one episode has changed my mind

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I know, right?
The japanese voice acting is incomparably better, IMO. It's just that most people played the NA dub and are comfortable hearing those voices.

Byakou · 2011-10-06, 21:59

I've never played the games so I hope they properly explain what's going on lol

Kakkou · 2011-10-06, 22:10

The pacing was indeed a little fast and some scenes felt oddly executed to me, but it was a good start. The art style looked great most of the time but the gradient shading doesn't look very nice once they hit the distance shots. There were many things about it that screamed that it was a game adaptation yet it felt accessible to a non-gamers like me. I didn't really like how the main character was such a blank canvas but if the status eyecatch and his little smirk at the end are anything to go by this probably won't be a problem anymore after this.

kramerica · 2011-10-06, 22:16

They show his stats at commercial break. I'm guessing at the end he'll max his stats and be a true player

This may be an instance where it's following the game a little too much. I wasn't expect day transitions to be exactly like the game, as well as so much music from the game either.

I'm digging it so far. The japanese voices are on equal footing with the english voices to me, so they work well enough.

maplehurry · 2011-10-06, 22:39

Can we get a subforum for this ?

Flying Dagger · 2011-10-06, 22:48

Spoiler:

zeniselv · 2011-10-06, 22:52

its not all about the pace of the anime i dont think at that point in the game you know too much either, maybe a little more info on characters but nothing more plotwise, on othrt topic i liked how they are doing the day trancission, thats something other shows should do to not screwing us with chronology.

Lacrimosa · 2011-10-06, 22:57

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Originally Posted by creb

6) That said, whatever extra voiced the girl on TV getting interviewed...LoL. I don't think even inhaling helium can make you sound like that.

Her voice was edited so she wouldn't be recognized, which is why they also didn't show her face. d:

First ep was fast like others have said but I am full of glee after watching it. xD

Archon_Wing · 2011-10-06, 23:23

Great music, but the episode was always moving a bit too fast to me.

They're talking in class!
Dead person!
They meet people!
Someone falls into a bunch of crap
Sucked into TV!
MWAHAHAGHA I Have powers!

Not bad, but it doesn't really let me have any time to breathe; and there's no buildup, so gags that would have been funny don't have time for me to even react, causing an overall reaction of "wut" Why do so many anime this season seem to go on fast forward

6/10 for first episode. Kinda shaky, but interesting enough to keep going.

justsomeguy · 2011-10-06, 23:23

Whew! The first episode was incredibly fast-paced, crushing the first 2 hours of an introduction into 20 minutes. I don't remember such an epic hack job in adaptations before. While it was necessary in order to actually get anywhere, condensing it like that sacrifices several things. On the other hand, since this is just the first episode, it's possible that the writers are gonna cram those into the next one.

No actual spoilers, but just a vague list of stuff that was cut (which might appear in the next episode):

Spoiler:

Other than that, so far so good, other than Yuu being a bit too timid, a somewhat ineffective use of music, and the fast pace.

This is one of those shows that would have really benefited from a 40-minute first episode, with the first half covering up to the body on the antenna and the second half going to where we are now. The introduction is supposed to set up Inaba as a nice, peaceful, and boring town, with the mysterious death being the first excitement ever. The fast pace of this episode pretty much loses out on that shock.

FlareKnight · 2011-10-06, 23:45

Will be nice if they can slow themselves down moving forward. Can get wanting to end with the fight, but otherwise need to give people time to breathe. Almost wish they also did one of those 40 minute first episodes so things could be spread out easier.

Still I think it was a good start. Plenty of nostalgia with the game opening song at the start, the calendar to show the passing days, and the familiar music. The voices were overall pretty good too.

Got right into things that's for sure. Just something funny like the group just falling into the TV. Good tip as well for Yosuke to remember to go to the washroom before going on a trip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goty

I know, right?
The japanese voice acting is incomparably better, IMO. It's just that most people played the NA dub and are comfortable hearing those voices.

I think that's an exaggeration. Incomparably better is going way too far. Plus trying to negate an alternative view by saying it's just because they are comfortable with the dub. The dub for the game was solid on its own merits. Think Yosuke was pretty much equal, Chie better with the Japanese voice, and Kuma worse with it. Overall pretty equal with the specific voices being more of a personal taste thing than anything else.

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Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Whew! The first episode was incredibly fast-paced, crushing the first 2 hours of an introduction into 20 minutes. I don't remember such an epic hack job in adaptations before. While it was necessary in order to actually get anywhere, condensing it like that sacrifices several things. On the other hand, since this is just the first episode, it's possible that the writers are gonna cram those into the next one.

No actual spoilers, but just a vague list of stuff that was cut (which might appear in the next episode):

Spoiler:

Other than that, so far so good, other than Yuu being a bit too timid and a somewhat ineffective use of music.

This is one of those shows that would have really benefited from a 40-minute first episode, with the first half covering up to the body on the antenna and the second half going to where we are now.

I thought it was fine. They definitely pushed the pace, but suppose that was so they could end the episode with that first fight. Some stuff was certainly cut, but nothing big. Any of those things can be added later without being an issue.

I liked the leads personality so far. A few different ways they could have gone at him and think this way is alright.

justsomeguy · 2011-10-06, 23:57

One event that can't be restored would be Yuu, Chie, and Yukiko happening upon the police at the crime scene while they walked home. It's possible to shift that event for greater impact though.

@mods: I don't think that's spoilers since the event was skipped, but feel free to delete if necessary.

Laith · 2011-10-06, 23:59

This episode sucked for the lack of critical hit to the nads :crossesarms:

Talking seriously, it did somethings right, like the Rise commercial changed to a poster. It was pretty fast but then again it takes, like, 3 hours to get to that point in the game so I give it a pass.

Malkuth · 2011-10-07, 00:05

By the way, just crossed my mind... according to the first episode, the only thing that those evil shadows wanted to do was lick Horie Yui, sorry Chie, and that retarded gay, sorry shy and inexperienced protagonist slaughtered the cute, sorry poor things to show off by boosting his stats for the next commercial break

frubam · 2011-10-07, 00:20

^
^yep, TOTALLY disappointed in the lack of ballkicking =0<. The animation also seemed to be lacking fluidity and animated simplistically throughout the episode, until the action part.

I like the fact that they kept Narugami's dialogue to a minimum, only speaking when it's necessary, as a Persona protagonist should. I dunno if that'll hold though.

Like others have said, the episode was quite fast; though not fast enough to not know what is going on. I mean, I would have liked to see what Chie and Yukiko would talk about with Narugami. They supposedly went home together, but they didn't show that at all! I mean, I've played the game, but it still would have been a nice detail to add in.

Ah, and I'm all for A Narugami/Chie ship right now =03. Sure that might change, but she was awesome! She would make a great gf for him

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HandofFate · 2011-10-07, 00:27

Pretty fast paced episode. Them rushing the first Persona summon makes sense for a TV perspective. Got to make the first episode exciting after all.

The animation is very colorful and the animation lines are very clean-looking. To me, it makes all the budget cuts stand out a lot more. Like how often when someone is talking, they cut to the back of their head, so they don't have to animate their mouths.

I mean its expected, anime is like the master of cheap animation using as few frames as possible.

I laughed at the end, when the protagonist starts unbuttoning his shirt as his Persona is standing around.

only complaint is the protagonist talks.

Haruyasha · 2011-10-07, 01:39

What other people said.. too rushed. It's like they're simply acting out all of the game's cutscenes.

A flop.

What a shame.

I'll give it one more episode.

2011-10-06, 21:07	Link #621
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Haven't played the game, but know about it from a friend. Igor was creepy. Narukami's persona looks pretty bad-ass. Hanamura is pretty funny. Satonaka is my favorite so far. Nanako was so cute, especially when she was singing that song. I couldn't help but laugh when they showed the dead body spiked on an antenna. The bear was funny and cute. __________________ My Anime List

2011-10-06, 21:33	Link #623
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	As a game player, there's just one thing I don't like about the anime: Narukami's depictions. I dunno, but I've always pictured him as a badass delinquent or something like that, going by part of his looks, the artwork of his persona Izanagi, and the choices you're given in the game is either the loser way or the badass way. Compare this with P3 MC, in which you get the idea that he's the quiet emo guy, but for some reason Narukami is more acting like I expect P3 MC to act lol. For example, man, it felt REALLY wrong not to have Narukami tell off the teacher. One of the few little details that made me think P4 MC is a no-nonsense character, since P3 MC didn't even have anything remotely as close as badass as that for his entire game, while P4 MC had TONS of choices like those. But yeah, just minor gripes, since supposedly MC is a blank slate. That said, I actually can watch this despite knowing what's going to happen, mainly because it's with Japanese dubs and it's different from the English ones. I still say English is a notch better, as English Igor is WAY creepier than this one. And to those who played the game... Spoiler: ... kinda nice they already have shown all the major players already, didn't they? __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2011-10-06, 22:16	Link #627
kramerica Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	They show his stats at commercial break. I'm guessing at the end he'll max his stats and be a true player This may be an instance where it's following the game a little too much. I wasn't expect day transitions to be exactly like the game, as well as so much music from the game either. I'm digging it so far. The japanese voices are on equal footing with the english voices to me, so they work well enough. __________________ Nanael is not amused.

2011-10-06, 22:48	Link #629
Flying Dagger 大巧不工 Join Date: Dec 2003	Spoiler: I am actually pretty happy that they did not cut the gas station scene.

2011-10-06, 22:52	Link #630
zeniselv Staring into your soul. Join Date: Oct 2010	its not all about the pace of the anime i dont think at that point in the game you know too much either, maybe a little more info on characters but nothing more plotwise, on othrt topic i liked how they are doing the day trancission, thats something other shows should do to not screwing us with chronology. __________________

2011-10-06, 21:24	Link #622
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 44	Pretty fast-paced compared to the game. My brother couldn't understand what was going on since he never played P4. At least it seems pretty faithful to the game, but unless you played the game people think it is another generic anime with action and comedy.

2011-10-06, 21:59	Link #625
Byakou Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	I've never played the games so I hope they properly explain what's going on lol

2011-10-06, 22:10	Link #626
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	The pacing was indeed a little fast and some scenes felt oddly executed to me, but it was a good start. The art style looked great most of the time but the gradient shading doesn't look very nice once they hit the distance shots. There were many things about it that screamed that it was a game adaptation yet it felt accessible to a non-gamers like me. I didn't really like how the main character was such a blank canvas but if the status eyecatch and his little smirk at the end are anything to go by this probably won't be a problem anymore after this.

2011-10-06, 22:39	Link #628
maplehurry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007	Can we get a subforum for this ?

2011-10-06, 23:23	Link #633
justsomeguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Whew! The first episode was incredibly fast-paced, crushing the first 2 hours of an introduction into 20 minutes. I don't remember such an epic hack job in adaptations before. While it was necessary in order to actually get anywhere, condensing it like that sacrifices several things. On the other hand, since this is just the first episode, it's possible that the writers are gonna cram those into the next one. No actual spoilers, but just a vague list of stuff that was cut (which might appear in the next episode): Spoiler: For those who have not played the game nor watched a LP, here's what was left out: 1) a more thorough introduction to the town and school 2) a thorough introduction to Yukiko 3) Morooka being a bigger ass than he appears here Other than that, so far so good, other than Yuu being a bit too timid, a somewhat ineffective use of music, and the fast pace. This is one of those shows that would have really benefited from a 40-minute first episode, with the first half covering up to the body on the antenna and the second half going to where we are now. The introduction is supposed to set up Inaba as a nice, peaceful, and boring town, with the mysterious death being the first excitement ever. The fast pace of this episode pretty much loses out on that shock. __________________ Currently watching: Arrow, The Flash, Gundam IBO, Euphonium, Occultic;Nine, Girlish Number Currently playing: LoH Trails in the Sky SC Last edited by justsomeguy; 2011-10-06 at 23:34.

2011-10-06, 23:57	Link #635
justsomeguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	One event that can't be restored would be Yuu, Chie, and Yukiko happening upon the police at the crime scene while they walked home. It's possible to shift that event for greater impact though. @mods: I don't think that's spoilers since the event was skipped, but feel free to delete if necessary. __________________ Currently watching: Arrow, The Flash, Gundam IBO, Euphonium, Occultic;Nine, Girlish Number Currently playing: LoH Trails in the Sky SC

2011-10-06, 23:59	Link #636
Laith Even if it just for a bit Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cold Storage Age: 33	This episode sucked for the lack of critical hit to the nads :crossesarms: Talking seriously, it did somethings right, like the Rise commercial changed to a poster. It was pretty fast but then again it takes, like, 3 hours to get to that point in the game so I give it a pass. __________________ Inexistant Time: My ranting place.・・・Fenruer Intun FanFiction Profile.

2011-10-07, 00:05	Link #637
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 44	By the way, just crossed my mind... according to the first episode, *the only thing that those evil* shadows wanted to do was lick Horie Yui**, sorry Chie, and that retarded gay, sorry shy and inexperienced protagonist slaughtered the cute, sorry poor things to show off by boosting his stats for the next commercial break

2011-10-07, 00:20	Link #638
frubam simp for Lyria Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: on the Grandcypher Age: 41	^ ^yep, TOTALLY disappointed in the lack of ballkicking =0<. The animation also seemed to be lacking fluidity and animated simplistically throughout the episode, until the action part. I like the fact that they kept Narugami's dialogue to a minimum, only speaking when it's necessary, as a Persona protagonist should. I dunno if that'll hold though. Like others have said, the episode was quite fast; though not fast enough to not know what is going on. I mean, I would have liked to see what Chie and Yukiko would talk about with Narugami. They supposedly went home together, but they didn't show that at all! I mean, I've played the game, but it still would have been a nice detail to add in. Ah, and I'm all for A Narugami/Chie ship right now =03. Sure that might change, but she was awesome! She would make a great gf for him .

2011-10-07, 00:27	Link #639
HandofFate Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Pretty fast paced episode. Them rushing the first Persona summon makes sense for a TV perspective. Got to make the first episode exciting after all. The animation is very colorful and the animation lines are very clean-looking. To me, it makes all the budget cuts stand out a lot more. Like how often when someone is talking, they cut to the back of their head, so they don't have to animate their mouths. I mean its expected, anime is like the master of cheap animation using as few frames as possible. I laughed at the end, when the protagonist starts unbuttoning his shirt as his Persona is standing around. only complaint is the protagonist talks. __________________ ...

2011-10-07, 01:39	Link #640
Haruyasha 名前は？ Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Washington Age: 35	What other people said.. too rushed. It's like they're simply acting out all of the game's cutscenes. A flop. What a shame. I'll give it one more episode.