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wao · 2004-12-17, 21:24

dreamless:

Spoiler:

dreamless · 2004-12-18, 03:53

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Originally Posted by wao

dreamless:

Spoiler:

well,

Spoiler for speculations:

wao · 2004-12-18, 04:04

dreamless: Soushi and Kazuki? Evolution? Maybe they went into SEED mode

But

Spoiler:

dreamless · 2004-12-18, 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wao

dreamless: Soushi and Kazuki? Evolution? Maybe they went into SEED mode

But

Spoiler:

supposedly some magazines, there's also the

Spoiler:

wao · 2004-12-18, 04:59

OMG?! Really?

Spoiler:

Thanks, man

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-12-18, 07:15

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Originally Posted by wao

OMG?! Really?

Spoiler:

Thanks, man

WTF Wao?!

You can read Nihongo??!!!

>.<

I want to know what that means too!!

dreamless · 2004-12-18, 23:53

some Newtype clip

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So there will be possibilities of OVAs telling the story after the ending of the TV series

wao · 2004-12-19, 00:50

OMG! That is so cool. I'd love to see what they can do with an OVA. From eps 1 and 2 and 23 I can see XEBEC can put in quality visuals if they want. I also want to see what the hell happens!

That means for the OVA to be made somebody has to survive... I bet you it'll be Maya.

Speaking of which we'reo nly 3 eps from the end and still almost *no* mention of Shouko. They really aren't going to reuse her? I'm so glad!

Lady_D · 2004-12-19, 14:41

Look Out! here comes ep. 24.........Wonder how they can possibly top the last ep.?

dreamless · 2004-12-20, 00:52

Spoiler for ep24:

sui · 2004-12-20, 03:18

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Originally Posted by dreamless

Spoiler for ep24:

So...

Spoiler:

getfresh · 2004-12-20, 12:17

ZOMGkabobs, ppl read the crap I've been putting in the eyecatches... Now I feel I have to really think of something intellegent to put in one T_T

leongsh · 2004-12-20, 15:59

Watched episode 24... it's a good set-up episode for the final 2. For the next 2 episodes to wrap the show up, they have.. better.. not.. drop.. the.. ball.

p.s. Especially liked the part where

Spoiler:

leongsh · 2004-12-20, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by getfresh

ZOMGkabobs, ppl read the crap I've been putting in the eyecatches... Now I feel I have to really think of something intellegent to put in one T_T

Well, you got too smart and thought no one watches the eyecatches. You only have yourself to blame

OMchan · 2004-12-20, 19:45

Spoiler:

wao · 2004-12-21, 00:06

Wow, ep 24 was really a very good set-up episode...

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Cannot wait for next week! 1-hour special! w00t! I agaree with leongsh. They better not drop the ball! It's been getting good and it would suck if the ending was a copout...

I personally think the increase in quality throughout the 2nd half of Fafner series should be attributed to the change in scriptwriter. Ubukata Tou surely has done a much better job, no more stupid soliloquys at teh end of every episode... anyone agrees with me?

EDIT: Also it seems Toomi's seiyuu, Marika Matsumoto, is a live-aciton drama actor and this is her debut as an anime seiyuu. She recently turned 20. I wonder if they throw you into a seiyuu for a role in a late-night anime, it means that you're already old news?
http://dimora.jp/dc/pc/special/marika.html
She looks a bit like one of the English/Lit teachers in my school. That's not good.

burnttoast · 2004-12-22, 01:25

RANT: I can't believe how this series was DISSED on the AnimeNfo site. Gosh DARN those GUNDUM SEED tunnel vision fans...

THIS IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!! YA.

Just downloaded the raws because the fansubb scene ISN'T

for this series. Seems like we have to wait forever!!!

Personal Favorite so far is ep 23... AWESOME

I might be TOTALLY blond here, but this series really has heart. It's much more 3-d [feeling] to me than, 'look it's a new mech!' anime.

My favorite charactors are Toomi and Shouko [sp?] who died early in the series.

Lady_D · 2004-12-22, 06:59

I agree. I actually prefer it over Gundam Seed Destiny because it has heart.

pookakitten · 2004-12-23, 05:52

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Originally Posted by wao

I personally think the increase in quality throughout the 2nd half of Fafner series should be attributed to the change in scriptwriter. Ubukata Tou surely has done a much better job, no more stupid soliloquys at teh end of every episode... anyone agrees with me?

I'll disagree. I liked the soliquys--I felt they added food for thought and were a sign that someone would survive to be telling the story.

Thinking about things, this show is in many ways about dissemination of information. I feel the beginning showcased this by carefully giving the viewer scraps of information that only gave more questions, or obscuring the answer to let you wonder about the character of the speaker. The best example of the latter is Kazuki asking Soushi on the docks (or whatever those were) which were more important to him--the pilots or the mecha. You spend a week wondering what Soushi's answer was because a wave covered up his words. I spent a week wondering if Soushi really was such a monster as to find the mecha more important than his (supposed) friends. I give the writers credit for having Soushi go with the crueler answer where you really wonder about the guy's mind.

Episode 18 is a great information episode, particularily Toomi Chizuru's trial. We find out that Maya's data's been falsified and she's been living a lie not of her own making. At the end you have Bartlend giving Makabe all this information and saying "it's hopeless." I don't know, that sudden barrage of information about the Fafner program and the kids and what was happening just felt "wrong" compared to the earlier episodes.

I have to admit, I love the trial sequence, particularily Tsubaki's testimony. First the camera follows her into the courtroom and the angle communicates the importance and gravity of her word without saying a thing. Barteland's amazement at seeing her adds credence to her being something other than human. Someone's comment "this is like judging gods!" sums up what Tsubaki is to Alvis--she's something beyond human. She sees and knows everything on the island. By that alone, she could be seen as a god. Tsubaki's testimony makes it less of an excuse for a cover up and more legitimate. It seems like a core is far more than simply data storage and island defense systems.

When she is introducing herself to the class, what do the characters in her name, Minashiro Tsubaki, mean literally? It might explain what her role is.

Samantha

Late · 2004-12-23, 07:27

I just had to whine about this somewhere.

Last night i was in Anime-Empire's irc channel. One of the subbers was watching Fafner raw's and when he had watched episode 24 he spoiled it for everyone. He just told on the channel what is going to happen. Now I feel kind of pissed. And no, it wasn't what you call a "minor" spoiler.

Thanks Anime-Empire for subbing this series and also ruining it.

2004-12-17, 21:24	Link #521
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 35	dreamless: Spoiler: That sounds kinda sad So I guess yaoi wins after all, eh! But if it implies that Kazuki dies to 'be together' with Soushi, then Maya'll be left all alone. I trust XEBEC not to bring Soushi back to life (unlike other recent anime hack cough cough) thoguh I want Soushi back __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-12-18, 04:04	Link #523
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 35	dreamless: Soushi and Kazuki? Evolution? Maybe they went into SEED mode But Spoiler: I thought it's pretty sure Soushi's dead, where do you find the episode previews that make Soushi look as if he's coming back? I can only find the episode preview on xebec's site, and this line: ジークフリード・システムごと総士が連れさらわれ、ショックを受ける一騎。makes me believe Soushi's pretty much not coming back... __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-12-18, 04:59	Link #525
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 35	OMG?! Really? Spoiler: Yay! I don't mind Soushi coming back......... but I hope they write it in well enough. I mean there surely wasn't any way he would have survived the black hole thing... Thanks, man __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-12-19, 00:50	Link #528
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 35	OMG! That is so cool. I'd love to see what they can do with an OVA. From eps 1 and 2 and 23 I can see XEBEC can put in quality visuals if they want. I also want to see what the hell happens! That means for the OVA to be made somebody has to survive... I bet you it'll be Maya. Speaking of which we'reo nly 3 eps from the end and still almost no mention of Shouko. They really aren't going to reuse her? I'm so glad! __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-12-20, 00:52	Link #530
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	Spoiler for ep24: YES Soushi is not dead! Kazuki is going to rescue Soushi from the North Pole in the final battle! And Akane and Kouyou change into very COOL looking Festum forms.

2004-12-18, 23:53	Link #527
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	some Newtype clip Spoiler: So there will be possibilities of OVAs telling the story after the ending of the TV series

2004-12-19, 14:41	Link #529
Lady_D Bishounen Watcher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA	Look Out! here comes ep. 24.........Wonder how they can possibly top the last ep.?

2004-12-20, 12:17	Link #532
getfresh done Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yokosuka, JP Age: 43	ZOMGkabobs, ppl read the crap I've been putting in the eyecatches... Now I feel I have to really think of something intellegent to put in one T_T

2004-12-20, 15:59	Link #533
leongsh Daijoubu! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Malaysia	Watched episode 24... it's a good set-up episode for the final 2. For the next 2 episodes to wrap the show up, they have.. better.. not.. drop.. the.. ball. p.s. Especially liked the part where Spoiler: the Festum walks by Makabe and quietly gives him a hint that there is still a bit of his wife, Akane, deep within.

2004-12-20, 19:45	Link #535
OMchan オムちゃん Join Date: May 2003	Spoiler: From the January 2005 issue of Animage. And here's the close up for the Soushi side. ... Poor Soushi. __________________ Kimi ni Todoke

2004-12-21, 00:06	Link #536
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 35	Wow, ep 24 was really a very good set-up episode... Spoiler: Kazuki's screaming at the beginning of the episode was actually very well done. I think his seiyuu's done a pretty good job seeing that he seems to be a new seiyuu... But really, the animation was quite nice for the first part of the ep at least. Akane's Festum form is SO COOL! And Kouyou's got a pretty neat one too, it looks like a Fafner... And SOUSHI IS NOT DEAD! I know it's so crappy, he shoulda just died but I don't watch this series for plot quality, I watch it cos Soushi is the best He's my most favourite character now! And Maya rocks too - she's been handling her relationship with Kazuki pretty well. Kanon's great too - she likes Kazuki but I think she's got enough maturity to let him go when she knows that he cares for Maya... But where's my SoushiMaya?! Where!! Cannot wait for next week! 1-hour special! w00t! I agaree with leongsh. They better not drop the ball! It's been getting good and it would suck if the ending was a copout... I personally think the increase in quality throughout the 2nd half of Fafner series should be attributed to the change in scriptwriter. Ubukata Tou surely has done a much better job, no more stupid soliloquys at teh end of every episode... anyone agrees with me? EDIT: Also it seems Toomi's seiyuu, Marika Matsumoto, is a live-aciton drama actor and this is her debut as an anime seiyuu. She recently turned 20. I wonder if they throw you into a seiyuu for a role in a late-night anime, it means that you're already old news? http://dimora.jp/dc/pc/special/marika.html She looks a bit like one of the English/Lit teachers in my school. That's not good. __________________ Thanks for the fish Last edited by wao; 2004-12-21 at 12:02.

2004-12-22, 01:25	Link #537
burnttoast Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: planet earth	series dissed RANT: I can't believe how this series was DISSED on the AnimeNfo site. Gosh DARN those GUNDUM SEED tunnel vision fans... THIS IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!! YA. Just downloaded the raws because the fansubb scene ISN'T for this series. Seems like we have to wait forever!!! Personal Favorite so far is ep 23... AWESOME I might be TOTALLY blond here, but this series really has heart. It's much more 3-d [feeling] to me than, 'look it's a new mech!' anime. My favorite charactors are Toomi and Shouko [sp?] who died early in the series. Last edited by burnttoast; 2004-12-22 at 03:39.

2004-12-22, 06:59	Link #538
Lady_D Bishounen Watcher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA	I agree. I actually prefer it over Gundam Seed Destiny because it has heart.

2004-12-23, 07:27	Link #540
Late Peelo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Finland Age: 37	I just had to whine about this somewhere. Last night i was in Anime-Empire's irc channel. One of the subbers was watching Fafner raw's and when he had watched episode 24 he spoiled it for everyone. He just told on the channel what is going to happen. Now I feel kind of pissed. And no, it wasn't what you call a "minor" spoiler. Thanks Anime-Empire for subbing this series and also ruining it.