2012-03-18, 05:29 | Link #3641 |
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Kyrie didn't miss at all , Beatrice was definitely hit by a bullet but that doesn't mean she's dead. Just look at Lion, He/She even manage to run and leave the theater on his/her own even though he/she was shot on the chest.
Anyway, this is what caught my attention while rereading ep7 tea party. The narrator said, during that time Eva was crying over her dead husband," The remains of her beloved husband lay beside her. And Krauss, Natsuhi, and Rosa's corpses. It was a room of death and piled up bodies."The narrator never told us about Beatrice's corpse . This makes me think that Beatrice might still be alive at that time. She probably left the room after Kyrie and Rudolf went out, using the secret passage as a way out. Remember the man-hole in Ep4 where Shannon died? It was connected to the secret passage so Beatrice probably used that as exit to go to the Guesthouse. That's what i think about what the narrator said at that time so feel free to reply. |
2012-03-18, 06:14 | Link #3642 | |
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Hmm interesting. It would explain why Battler diappeared all of a sudden.
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2012-03-18, 11:01 | Link #3643 | |
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Since this is in the EP7 thread, I'll put my reply in spoiler tags Spoiler for EP8 Plot:
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Kyrie kills Gohda then Rudolf phones to the cousins and tell George and Jessica to leave for the test. Battler remains in the guesthouse with Maria while Rudolf leaves to kill George. Eva wakes up (and presumably Yasu has already left). Kyrie kills Jessica while Rudolf kills George. Kyrie says Battler to go to the chapel, Rudolf tells Kyrie he killed George then goes back to the chapel. Battler leaves the house (this happen less than 30 minutes from when George and Jessica left him). Kyrie enters in the guesthouse to kill the remaining servants and Maria. Rudolf reaches the chapel and begins to wait however Battler isn't showing up yet. Eva joins him and kills him. Kyrie finishes killing everyone and meets Eva to whom she says she has killed everyone. Gunfight ensues, Kyrie dies. Now, the scene of Eva waking up must have taken place at the same time with some of the following ones, otherwise Eva would have left the chapel just in time to see Rudolf kill George because it's hard to accept she woke up when George was called to the chapel and wasted more than 30 minutes mourning on Hideyoshi. So we can't figure out when exactly Yasu also woke up and left. Prior to Eva but when? If Yasu were to wake up before Rudolf were to be back to the chapel to kill George either Rudolf would see her or she would meet up with George (assuming she managed to not been seen by Rudolf). My best guess is that Yasu woke up and tried to leave the chapel while Rudolf was out, busy killing George. She likely hear the gunshot and possibly hides. Rudolf doesn't see her and leaves. It's possible she goes checking who he killed. Meanwhile Eva wakes up. Rudolf returns to the chapel, Yasu manages to slip past him. From here it's possible: - Yasu met Battler, slowing/stopping him from reaching the chapel. It's possible that Battler however reaches the chapel short after and sees Eva shooting at Rudolf though the shock will stop him from revealing his presence. As he 'recovers' he might have followed her just to hear her chat with Kyrie and see them trying to kill each other. - Kyrie actually shoot Battler when she saw him leaving, not trusting Rudolf to persuade him. We just weren't told this part. Yasu might have found him wounded and taken him away. - Battler actually reached the chapel prior to Rudolf and was shoot by Eva who believes him to be Rudolf's accomplice. This might be the truth Eva wanted to hide the most, the fact she shot Battler purposely to discover he was innocent. - Battler was stalled by Yasu so he reached the chapel after Rudolf was killed and ended up being shoot by Eva (out of revenge or out of suspicion he was a culprit). As Eva leaves yasu reaches him and takes him away. It's more or less the same as before, only the time in which Battler was shoot changes and revenge is added to the reasons for which Eva might shoot him. Spoiler for EP8 Plot:
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2012-03-18, 14:21 | Link #3646 | |
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2012-03-18, 15:05 | Link #3647 | |
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Yes that was a joke... but still the fact remains that in the corpse count "Beatrice's" corpse was not included. This smells like 1st game - 1st twilight... |
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2012-03-18, 15:13 | Link #3648 | |
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It would be fun if she actually were an automatic doll. Though to have blood trickle down her mouth she needs to be alive... and either be seriously injured or do something like bite one of her lips hard. So the doll's option is sadly ruled out... unless it's a very realistic doll with blood included... and would you put past Kinzo the fact he owned a Beatrice doll who was that realistic? ^_- Last edited by jjblue1; 2012-03-18 at 15:39. |
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2012-03-18, 19:01 | Link #3652 |
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jjblue1: Battler did see Shannon's corpse in Episode 3:
bg black,22 ; 譲治の兄貴は、紗音ちゃんの遺体と一緒に倒れていた。@ `George-aniki had fallen alongside Shannon-chan's corpse.`@ br ; 胸が真っ赤に染まっている。@そして見開いたままの瞳からは、@…絵羽伯母さんには悪いが、 @/ `His chest was stained bright red.`@` And from his still opened eyes,`@` ...I'd hate to say it to Eva oba-san, `@/
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And we know Shannon was supposedly alive because Eva couldn't have killed Nanjo. Interesting enough in Ep 3 is said: Quote:
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2012-03-18, 20:40 | Link #3655 | |
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I might be arguing for the sake of arguing:
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Yasu's message bottles containing Legend and Turn do not tell the truth of what happened in Prime, including Battler's death. Any red text concerning this are merely rules of a specific Fragment. Even though EP8 says something different, I will continue: Yasu's message bottles contained various plans for the incident and were sent out to sea before the murders occurred. However, Yasu did not follow through with the plans, and so certain characters were able to survive despite various Fragments that say otherwise. As far as EP 3 and 4 go, well, I won't put that on the EP7 thread.
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2012-03-20, 08:38 | Link #3659 |
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That scene is really problematic. I thought of Beato could have used a gold ingot for bulletproofing instead of pads. But there's also the blood. Could she have prepared for that as well? (with the paint she uses for the magic circles) She couldn't have known she was going to get shot until Natsuhi's accidental death.
I tried looking for hints that would indicate a pattern to Kyrie's shooting. Something to give Beato the reason to stuff an ingot in her chest. I noticed that it constantly said that blood came dripping down from their mouths. If i'm not mistaken that happens when you're shot in the chest right? And there's also Hideyoshi clutching at his chest to further suggest this. Now if only the bullet had scraped Eva's boob it would have meant something. However it scraped her head. I don't think it really matters anyway. Beato could have just entrusted her fate to the roulette. It's either my chest or my head. Though the bed she was lying on did have those suspicious curtains. Perhaps a curtain hanging over her head?
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