Krnballerzzz
2005-06-19, 23:28
I do usally do not follow the manga when i watch an anime series that follow a manga... But i was wondering... will ichigo and Rukia fall in some kind of deeper realtionship? I mean, he fricken went to Soul Society to save her... Risked his life like 25 times... So i was wondering...
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Bronwen Stx
2005-06-20, 00:02
I do usally do not follow the manga when i watch an anime series that follow a manga... But i was wondering... will ichigo and Rukia fall in some kind of deeper realtionship? I mean, he fricken went to Soul Society to save her... Risked his life like 25 times... So i was wondering...
I hope so too. I mean the lengths he go to save her. Honestly, the fact that they act like an old married couple and are not shy with calling each other names and Rukia kicking where it hurts the most.
The fact that they've practically live with each other (Ichigo's closet) in the same room.
Rukia I believe has integrated herself into one of Ichigo's important people he will die for to protect.
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what/why
2005-06-20, 01:40
MEGA SPOILER
No, hes just saving her out of gratitude
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Daniel E.
2005-06-20, 01:40
They better not be another one of those "We like each other a lot, but we are never going to confess that feeling openly" couple.
Far too many couples in anime are already like that.
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xandiira
2005-06-23, 21:55
We won't know until the actual end of the manga, people! But I am hoping that they do go together .. : covers up her Renji and Rukia avatar. : >_>!
to what/why and all other Bleach manga readers:
if you are keeping up with the manga like i am, you & me both know it is not over. >_> That guy hanging in the sky WAS NOT doing that for fun.
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what/why
2005-06-23, 22:45
We won't know until the actual end of the manga, people! But I am hoping that they do go together .. : covers up her Renji and Rukia avatar. : >_>!
to what/why and all other Bleach manga readers:
if you are keeping up with the manga like i am, you & me both know it is not over. >_> That guy hanging in the sky WAS NOT doing that for fun.
What does this have to do with Rukia?
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xandiira
2005-06-23, 22:50
o_o I'm just saying that it won't end from there, that's all. There's bound to be more interaction between Ichigo and her.
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Kokujin Sifu
2005-06-24, 05:15
I'm guessing it will all end in a very platonic way...like a lot of shows. Sheesh, it's almost as if they (animators and mangakas) are afraid of actual interaction between characters. No kisses, no touching and no gropping, lol. Sometimes I think they don't want to scare the otaku fan base, all those guys who don't get girls and who would be shocked at the image of a shonen action hero actually doing something sweet...LOL---It's the shonen curse I tell you!
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aogaeru
2005-06-24, 05:45
I'm guessing it will all end in a very platonic way...like a lot of shows. Sheesh, it's almost as if they (animators and mangakas) are afraid of actual interaction between characters. No kisses, no touching and no gropping, lol. Sometimes I think they don't want to scare the otaku fan base, all those guys who don't get girls and who would be shocked at the image of a shonen action hero actually doing something sweet...LOL---It's the shonen curse I tell you!
A far cry from the MTV generation, eh?
I would like Rukia and Ichigo to form their alliances but somehow I feel they won’t. As to why I’m not sure… The show itself has never intentionally shown any ‘love’ interest directly, but rather indirectly, so it’s really hard to say…
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Shinigami Rukia
2005-06-24, 14:36
welll I sure hope rukia will be back to the real world, those SS stuff creeps me, man!! for gartitude!! wtf! no way! lol i wont risk my life for gratitude only, besides have you noticed that in the anime they are focusing it more for ichigoxrukia than actually in the manga?
Kubo tite deserves to be hunted by nightimares and ordes of countless ichigoxrukia fans aaargh! besides i dont think he will make rukia disappear than easily since she is the 2nd most popular character of of bleach! *sigh* if someone must disappear is inoue >:E /stabs inoue
Tooo bad belach it sst ill going -.- i want to know if he is going to actually go for rukiaxichigo, man! at least let them be together indirectly saying they going to be there for each other and IN THE SAME PLACE.
well that is my humble opinion, but japanese men mangakas are sucha a weird creatures , anything may happen , i hope kubo tite dont disappoint fans !!!
*burns orihime down*
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xandiira
2005-06-24, 16:23
welll I sure hope rukia will be back to the real world, those SS stuff creeps me, man!! for gartitude!! wtf! no way! lol i wont risk my life for gratitude only, besides have you noticed that in the anime they are focusing it more for ichigoxrukia than actually in the manga?
I'll go out on a limb here and say that Ichigo's trying to save Rukia because she practically saved him and his family. Of course you're going to help save the person who helped you saved the ones close to you. I would too. I guess saving her is his own way of saying "thank you." I have noticed that they put a lot of hints of Rukia and Ichigo in the anime more than they did the manga, but in a lot of other animes with mangas of their own, they also do that too. ^^; If you've noticed. I guess they're doing this to grab the attention of the two's relationship with each other.
Kubo tite deserves to be hunted by nightimares and ordes of countless ichigoxrukia fans aaargh! besides i dont think he will make rukia disappear than easily since she is the 2nd most popular character of of bleach! *sigh* if someone must disappear is inoue >:E /stabs inoue
Tooo bad belach it sst ill going -.- i want to know if he is going to actually go for rukiaxichigo, man! at least let them be together indirectly saying they going to be there for each other and IN THE SAME PLACE.
well that is my humble opinion, but japanese men mangakas are sucha a weird creatures , anything may happen , i hope kubo tite dont disappoint fans !!!
*burns orihime down*
^^; It's nice to see a person who really sticks up for the IchigoxRukia pairing! The two are great together, they get along quite well but Orihime is a good character as well! From the signs of it, Ichigo doesn't seem to think of Orihime as that kind of "friend." He appriciates her and admires her strength, but I don't think he's into her in that kind of way. So, unless they spend huge amounts of time together like Rukia and Ichigo did( >> If I slept in a guy's closet I KNOW I would certainly become well aquainted with him ), the odds for them getting together is almost slim. Yet, they do go to school together so who knows what will happen! But right now, let's think of the OrihimexIchigoxRukia relationship as a love triangle of some sort shall we? x3 But this being a Shounen manga/anime, they probably won't enter as much love stuff as Shoujo manga/anime would give you. So let's just cross our fingers and hope Kubo Tite allows the IchigoxRukia to carry on!
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Kokujin Sifu
2005-06-24, 22:38
I really hope they end up together, believe me...it's just that after watching countless shows and some manga in my days, I'm pretty much guessing that they'll leave it open...wide open. Something like one of the show early endings, with Rukia, Ichigo against the sunset with her all star eyed. In fact, that ending is the proof that they'll goo for the implicit and leave the explicit out! Lol!She will never say that she loves him and with that he won't tell her the same...and the shonen train rides on!
It's the shonen curse...the curse I tell you!
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Sokar
2005-06-24, 23:40
I think I got something interesting to say, but it contains major manga spoiler
Since we pretty all know (fine, not know, but anyone can see it from a mile away) that Ichigo is Kaien's reincarnation, and Kaien had a wife, someone he loved. If you believe that two souls are bound together then won't Ichigo end up with Kaien's wife? Whoever that is. The wife might be a hollow though, which might set up an interesting battle. Maybe Rukia vs Kaien's wife turned hollow?
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Encoder
2005-06-26, 01:51
I'm not sure of this but I heard Kaien's wife resembled Orihime before she died, perhaps Inoue will be with Ichigo.
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ThePowerOfAnime
2005-06-26, 11:3
I'm not sure of this but I heard Kaien's wife resembled Orihime before she died, perhaps Inoue will be with Ichigo.
Interesting.... doh... this wasnt in anime! spoiler... nooooooooooooooo.......
jk LOL
(seen manga too)
Edit by Moderator: Added spoiler tags since they were left out of his original post and banned him for forgetting them.
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lana3007
2005-06-26, 17:15
I'm not sure of this but I heard Kaien's wife resembled Orihime before she died, perhaps Inoue will be with Ichigo.
I heard that somewhere else too. After all they never showed her face in the manga, which in of it's own is suspicious, so I wouldn't be all that surprised if Orihime is her reincarnation (though it's a little predictable).
Personally I think Ichigo and Rukia like each other, they just don't quite realize it. Ichigo has two or three different explanations for why he goes to SS. One is to repay her, another one is because she 'belongs' in his world. The second one he only tells to Orihime right after Rukia leaves, and it sounds heck of a lot like he likes her and misses her but can't understand it.
And yeah, it's not over, even if they have gone their seperate ways: I mean after everything he has gone through to rescue Rukia, it's not like Ichigo will just forget about her.
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finalheaven
2005-06-26, 18:47
Me = Hasn't read the manga
"ARRRGH my eyes!!! Why did I just read that!?"
Nah, don't worry. I saw a piccy of Kaien and knew he was dead so I pieced most of the story together from hints dropped in the anime... (And I'm the kinda person who clicks on a marked spoiler out of curiosity..
...well it did kill the cat)
But as for Inoue and Ichigo being together???
*Goes to join Shinigami Rukia and the rest of the mob that are stabbing/burning/zapping Inoue into dust*
Or maybe we could just tie her out and wait for her soul to be eaten?
Kaien had a wife but didn't Rukia have strong feelings towards him? Which were possibly returned (I think Kaien and Rukia were quite close) Rukia's feelings have obviously been attached to Ichigo since he is Kaien's reincarnation and is so similar to him. (No wonder she would fancy him... Ichigo = Kaien minus The Wife)
BTW this is only assumed from third hand info I've obtained, it may all be a load of...
Besides what would be the point of all the IshidaxInoue significant looks and moments then? (while in soul society) Surely that is building up something? Bit annoying if after all that Inoue still chases after Ichigo.
I'd really like a happy ending to Ichigo and Rukia even if nothing happens in the anime/manga, at least the story should be left so that they can be together, or we can imagine them together...
And yeah, it's not over, even if they have gone their seperate ways: I mean after everything he has gone through to rescue Rukia, it's not like Ichigo will just forget about her.
If there is any justice in the world this will be true!
Edit: I'm really sorry about the unmarked spoilers, I was assuming that this thread wasn't bothering to mark them since no one else had - much like in the manga discussions where some things are all known.
Sorry to anyone I spoilt.
*Goes away hanging head in shame and feeling like forum scum...*
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silverorange
2005-06-26, 19:42
Well firstly, yeah that is a pretty big spoiler. Thanks very much!
Secondly, i really hope all you Ichigo+Rukia fans are wrong. Romance is generally sappy and seems to be pretty difficult to pull off well without it seeming cheesy. A little romantic tension that is left open for the viewers imagination to decide what may or may not happen is much better. Ichigo's character is too loud and abnoxious to turn into a mushy romantic. However, if they can pull of a good Ichigo Rukia romance ending then all the power to them, but it just seems too easy to mess up, which means if they go that route then it likely will get messed up and leave me and countless Bleach fanatics disapointed.
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jhcl
2005-06-27, 03:28
Where have they ever stated that he is the reincarnation of Kaien.
I really do not see how you can draw such a conclusion that has never been stated. Just because they share a similar personality you cant consider it as conclusive evidence that they are one and the same.
If they were the same soul then wouldnt that imply that Kaien should have as much spiritual energy as Ichigo? That didnt seem the case to me when they showed him though but thats just an opinion.
As for the topic, I dont expect any relationships of any kind. The manga is found in Jump. Be the Best manga never has a romantic aspect in it.
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Sokar
2005-06-27, 04:01
To jhcl:
You said: "I really do not see how you can draw such a conclusion that has never been stated."
Well, it's not much drawing if it's just stated somewhere. There was a thread on this on page 2, and here's the link for the webpage that explains this so well
http://www.twilightvisions.com/funst...igotrinity.htm
Also with regards to the spirit power comment, spirit power can grow. It doesn't mean you have the same spirit power forever and throughout your reincarnations.
Edit: Why is there a sad face on top? Must have pressed something wrong.
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jhcl
2005-06-27, 04:34
To jhcl:
You said: "I really do not see how you can draw such a conclusion that has never been stated."
Well, it's not much drawing if it's just stated somewhere. There was a thread on this on page 2, and here's the link for the webpage that explains this so well
http://www.twilightvisions.com/funst...igotrinity.htm
Also with regards to the spirit power comment, spirit power can grow. It doesn't mean you have the same spirit power forever and throughout your reincarnations.
Edit: Why is there a sad face on top? Must have pressed something wrong.
Although i am still somewhat skeptical that was rather convincing
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Katsushi
2005-08-05, 23:53
I was just wondering about this thats all
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Bronwen Stx
2005-08-06, 00:28
It's certainly up to your interpretation. XDDD
:
okes:: Why do you think so? What scenes?
What made you think there is something going on between them?
Most people here see RenjixRukia though...
But, IMO, I think there is something going on between Ichigo and Rukia. hehehe.
I love them, one way or another and it doesn't help that they act like a senile old married couple who don't care for the world as they can argue in the middle of a serious situation (see episode 41). For all they care it could be the end of the world and they would argue during it.
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SuperKnuckles
2005-08-06, 00:40
I think the reason why the show sets up Renji and Rukia so much is so that Ichigo can snatch up Rukia later. I think there has been a lot of obvious hints to Ichigo and Rukia possibly hooking up. Apparently the thing that'll link them is how they kept fighting against eachother. And arguing. A lot. Like a TRUE couple.
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Wolcik
2005-08-06, 09:04
It's certainly up to your interpretation. XDDD
:
okes:: Why do you think so? What scenes?
What made you think there is something going on between them?
Most people here see RenjixRukia though...
But, IMO, I think there is something going on between Ichigo and Rukia. hehehe.
I love them, one way or another and it doesn't help that they act like a senile old married couple who don't care for the world as they can argue in the middle of a serious situation (see episode 41). For all they care it could be the end of the world and they would argue during it.
When Ichigo, Renji and Rukia meet they all argue and it's hillarius so it make a great triangle, Rukia tease all mens she likes
Ichigo and Renji
just wait for Byakuya boy
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gangsta905_04
2005-08-07, 00:54
heh..it surprises me..
ICHIGO GONNA RAPORZ U TONITE BYAKUYA =P
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marilyn
2005-08-08, 02:39
Honestly, the fact that they act like an old married couple and are not shy with calling each other names and Rukia kicking where it hurts the most.
The
in which episode did this happen??i couldn't find it
this must be very funny
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Wolcik
2005-08-08, 03:59
in which episode did this happen??i couldn't find it
this must be very funny
For expample in 41 when Ichigo and Rukia meet for the first time since departing... They argue about "saving"...
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marilyn
2005-08-08, 04:05
i think you've misunderstood me.i meant when did rukia kicked him?i couldn't recall when that happened.
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Wolcik
2005-08-08, 07:32
i think you've misunderstood me.i meant when did rukia kicked him?i couldn't recall when that happened.
if you mean literally then I don't recall Rukia kicking Ichigo WHERE IT HURTS THE MOST (maybe in the head when he was under kidohu in the 1st ep/chapt)... I thought it was about his feeling and pride
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Bronwen Stx
2005-08-08, 12:27
i think you've misunderstood me.i meant when did rukia kicked him?i couldn't recall when that happened.
It's one of those first few chapters or episodes...where Rukia asked Ichigo to talk with her for a moment and he refused and then she kicked him, and went camatosed and then the audience (his and her classmate) said something along the lines;
classmate1: Did she just...??
classmate2: I think she did...
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gangsta905_04
2005-08-09, 00:59
remember ichigo is too "innocent"? he freaked out wen Yourichi was sexily naked..lol..he turned red...nd please sum1 tell me sumthin...wuts wit the nosebleedin wenever an anime character sees a naked women..or sumthin close?
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Zeff
2005-08-09, 01:22
I would like it, if they would be
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Wolcik
2005-08-09, 06:48
It's one of those first few chapters or episodes...where Rukia asked Ichigo to talk with her for a moment and he refused and then she kicked him, and went camatosed and then the audience (his and her classmate) said something along the lines;
classmate1: Did she just...??
classmate2: I think she did...
If it is in Kon 1st ep/chap then they don't show where she hit/kicked him...
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ExperimentalBleach
2005-08-12, 19:50
Well firstly, yeah that is a pretty big spoiler. Thanks very much!
Secondly, i really hope all you Ichigo+Rukia fans are wrong. Romance is generally sappy and seems to be pretty difficult to pull off well without it seeming cheesy. A little romantic tension that is left open for the viewers imagination to decide what may or may not happen is much better. Ichigo's character is too loud and abnoxious to turn into a mushy romantic. However, if they can pull of a good Ichigo Rukia romance ending then all the power to them, but it just seems too easy to mess up, which means if they go that route then it likely will get messed up and leave me and countless Bleach fanatics disapointed.
Not everything is black and white. Ichigo does have a caring side and if you missed that somehow, you seriously need to look over the manga and anime a bit more.
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ExperimentalBleach
2005-08-12, 20:17
I think Ichigo and Rukia have a certain 'IT FACTOR' that Ichigo, with Orihime doesn't have. The fact that they argue all the time, yet hang in for eachother is proof enough. And don't forget Ichigo needs a reason to change the way he feels about Orihime. I also think Rukia has a stronger bond with him, too. And just because she now lives in the SS doesn't mean their relationship has ended. The upcoming arc might bring them together.
An afterthought is: Maybe all Orihime currently feels for Ichigo is puppy love or friendly love, rather than a passionate bond. And I recall that in the manga in the first volume, she said she liked Ichigo because of the way he looks. The heart of a teenager is fickle. Doesn't seem like the best relationship ever...
GO ISHIDAXORIHIME!!! They are much better suited. They have chemistry.
All I'm saying is everyone needs to bring SOMETHING to the relationship. And for some weird reason, I like IkkakuxNemu.
Besides, Rukia and Ichigo just look cute together.
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Wolcik
2005-08-12, 20:59
I like IkkakuXNemu... Ikkaku is funny, strong and in some way smart... and Nemu is hmm pretty (what can you say anout something that Mayuri created)...
I think that IchigoXOrihime was stronly shown when they were tring to reach each other hends when they were entering Shinigami's part in SS
but then they got separated and Ishida took care of Orihime... and She isn't that dumb, she knows that Rukia is her rival
RukiaXRenji... they both argue the same way like RukiaXIchigo, but Renji is taller and has likes to kick other people in the back to chear them up
that's why Rukia liked Ichigo from the begining :P
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ExperimentalBleach
2005-08-12, 21:55
I like IkkakuXNemu... Ikkaku is funny, strong and in some way smart... and Nemu is hmm pretty (what can you say anout something that Mayuri created)...
I think that IchigoXOrihime was stronly shown when they were tring to reach each other hends when they were entering Shinigami's part in SS
but then they got separated and Ishida took care of Orihime... and She isn't that dumb, she knows that Rukia is her rival
RukiaXRenji... they both argue the same way like RukiaXIchigo, but Renji is taller and has likes to kick other people in the back to chear them up
that's why Rukia liked Ichigo from the begining :P
You can't claim that Rukia only liked Ichigo in the beginning because he kicked her in the back. That sounds so ridiculous. Rukia (we can all tell, really) likes Ichigo for who he is. Ichigo and Rukia have conflicting ways of life and points of view, so they naturally fight,entertain eachother, ect.
For that OrihimexIchigo bit, you can't draw such a conclusion from a gesture like that. They were trying to reach hands because if they didn't, EVERYONE would have split up (which happened anyway) Ishida and Orihime, however, share subtle yet meaningful moments and words. EX: Episode 41
My point is, Rukia and Renji are great companions but a romantic relationship wouldn't last. For a partnership to work out, the pair must, at least, hold eachother's attention. And no, I don't mean arguing.
With an IchigoxRukia pairing there's no unrequited feelings or loose ends.