2012-05-06, 23:33 | Link #2301 |
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The battle scens were kinda lousy this time, but great episode and Chiaki was just awesome as always.
Are we ever going to see the Barbalosa in action? I want to see Chiaki's father (a real pirate through my eyes) in action. |
2012-05-07, 01:24 | Link #2302 | |
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2012-05-07, 01:56 | Link #2303 | ||
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2012-05-07, 02:35 | Link #2304 |
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They should have held the strategy meeting before engaging the Dolittle fleet. They had some time after the FTL jump and before the Jabberwocky caught up on them. With a simple rearranging of the events this episode would have flown much better.
Marika shouldn't leave the bridge under an attack. This is not Starfleet protocol, it's just common sense! What if the Jabberwocky got a clean hit on the Bentenmaru? What if they lost an engine? What if they were surrounded? In a spaceship the captain must make quick decisions. Sometimes the only choice is to surrender, or to bargain, or to flee with another FTL jump. Marika shouldn't trust these decisions on anyone else, unless incapacitated for some reason.
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2012-05-07, 04:51 | Link #2305 | |
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When your down to the last man, you're the captain, tactical officer and the conn. (Epic benchtop leap not necessary.) I guess multitasking's one of a hacker's talents.
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2012-05-07, 05:22 | Link #2306 |
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Some more random bits from the novel vol 3.
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2012-05-07, 06:19 | Link #2307 |
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There seemed to be no time skip after the FTL overdrive. They bantered for a tiny bit before Marika decided a plan was needed. Just as she finished saying that, the Dolittle fleet caught the Bentenmaru.
Random firing is indeed strange. The Dolittle fleet was unable to get a precise fix (and firing lock) on Bentenmaru due to Lynn's electronic warfare. Robert then decides to use his advantage in numbers to surround the approximate location of Bentenmaru, and a precise fix is obtained. The second in command(?) then calls for fires to concentrate on the engines to stop the Bentenmaru, and prepare for docking.
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2012-05-07, 07:40 | Link #2309 | |
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Hardware alone doesn't make a ship. There's very little need to micro-manage evasive type maneuvers with active EW i.e. let the pilot do her job.
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2012-05-07, 10:24 | Link #2310 |
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Aren't there recent civil ordnances so that they couldn't realistically get away with showing things like that in their anime? Well and keep the tone of the previous episodes I mean.
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2012-05-07, 10:33 | Link #2311 |
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It is a known fact that even before the new anti-anime tokyo law it was forbiden to show teenagers drunk on anime (If I remember correctly on the Haruhi LN they got drunk when visiting mistery island but that was changed on the anime). Which is kind of harsh since american movies show drunk teenagers quite often.
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2012-05-07, 10:43 | Link #2312 | ||
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It's not even that recent. The first season of Haruhi Suzumiya had to cut a scene where the SOS Brigade got drunk on a trip. |
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2012-05-07, 11:11 | Link #2314 |
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I meant aside from the drinking. The orgy in particular.
If you can't show those thing, then you must come up with something else. And if you want to make Marika and the others look cool...and guess breaking up revolutionaries, and rooting out criminal activity works. As for the battle. Anime logic. I've seen instances were a ship's crew basically stops fighting, or even paying attention to what is going on around them for these sorts of talks. Happened in Space Battleship Yamato all the time. Even to the point that the Acting Captain had to leave the bridge to get advice from the wounded Captain...while the ship is under constant attack from all sides. Or more or less everyone has a little pow-pow in the bridge, not really minding their stations, while under attack, to discuss how to defeat the enemy. And you can tell they are still under attack as you can hear explosions going on, and sometimes the ship rattles. They even all left the bridge one time to plot out how to destroy the enemy fleet...while hidden behind and asteroid, while under fire from a big fleet...that had destroyed a previous asteroid they had been hidding behind. These scenes are usually about as long as Marika's planning scene. And the enemy's aim just about the same as those that tend to fire on Yamato. Sort of happens in Star Trek from time to time. Those instances where is seems like the battle happens to gets a lull while the crew discuss what to do about the major problem they are having, or to talk to the Admiral or whatever over subspace. Yet they really didn't move the ship out of the battlefield. Sometimes you can tell they are still under fire. Usually they don't leave the bridge in Star Trek...unless they have someone unfriendly onboard that the Captain thinks only he can deal with (Kirk era thing).
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2012-05-07, 12:01 | Link #2316 |
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Look, at the end of the day, there wasn't much that Marika could have done on the bridge.
Pilot the ship? With the amount of bracketing fire they were getting, I doubt she could have done better than Ai. Organise EW? Yeah, Lynn has that handled. Engines? She doesn't know jack shit about engines. The captain's job is not to be an expert in all things; the captain's job is to lead, manage the crew, and above all else, plan. The captain will have a single specialist track (usually tactical, like Marika, though a friend of my family became an ASW frigate skipper from the Communications track) and relies on the department heads to provide specialist advice, before making the big picture decision. In this case, no matter whether she stayed on the bridge or not, the tactical situation would not have changed in the near future, and Marika needs to come up with a course of action now. So she makes the call to pull her command team off the bridge to plan, after leaving instructions to her crew. It's a gamble, and frankly it's one she would have preffered not to make, but sometimes you gotta try and pick the choice which is the least worse and try your best.
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2012-05-07, 12:38 | Link #2317 | ||
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So, I don't see much evidence of energy shield usage in this sci-fi series. Unless, I have to go back and take a look at the military vessels. But right now, I don't remember any command ordering the activation of shields.
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2012-05-07, 18:35 | Link #2320 |
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From the visuals, I'd say the deflector field follows the shape of the hull, hence why it only happens when things almost contact the hull. A bit like how shields went from salt-&-bowling-ball effects to the kind seen on Generations as the years passed.
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