2012-06-30, 22:52 | Link #1001 |
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If you compare another series tittle that have the tittle character as main protagonist like SnS, ZnT, Toradora, etc all of them from Dengeki B, certainly Index is like the black sheep among them . Diversity is fine with Touma the hero and Accelerator the anti-villain but, well... I think you get the point .
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But most importantly, it's just a title.
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2012-06-30, 22:59 | Link #1003 |
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Well getting swarmed by mooks isn't really that bad if they're weak mooks.
Eh, that's just how I saw it. Index got little screentime when it's named after her compared to Misaka in Railgun. Sure Index is bigger in scope but you would think she would still do more in her own series. Besides, the Anime failed to convey her usefulness very well, though they managed to up her annoying tendencies like Railgun managed to take Kuroko's perversion up to the 11(At least they managed to dedicate a few episode to Kuroko that didn't try and force her perversion down everyone's throats and gave her character development beyond her desire to sleep with Misaka), and with her fighting abilities not being up to par with the other mains there's not much there for her in the anime series. Besides, despite Index being big in scope it hasn't stopped Touma from being plastered everywhere just like Railgun plastered Misaka everywhere. |
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Secondly, its the readers own expectation that needs to be flexible, there's no rule that the character in the title has the most screentime , forcing your own ideals onto a story is the making of a disaster ...
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2012-06-30, 23:02 | Link #1005 | |
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Btw, the point isn't about following a rule but following a tendency people got too used to see/read and that expectative plays a different way people will start to complain. |
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2012-06-30, 23:21 | Link #1008 | |
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Do you know how petty this entire issue is? It's just a name in a title, if it wasn't there we wouldn't be having any argument at all. What's happening in the Nanoha story is the opposite, because they're bound to the one name in their title they squeeze that character into every story they do without leaving space for new characters to grow much on their own.
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2012-06-30, 23:21 | Link #1009 |
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You're wrong with your assumption. Touma and Misaka have shown to be very useful even when not fighting. However they can fight as well and got plenty of screentime of them being useful on and off the battlefield. While Index can't really fight that well, she regulates that to Touma, and her screentime is only a portion that Touma got. I expected more from her since it's named after her and Season 2 seemed to have more Misaka than Index in it even though it wasn't Railgun.
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2012-06-30, 23:31 | Link #1011 | |
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Lol what? Mikoto appears more in season two? Please elaborate
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2012-06-30, 23:32 | Link #1012 |
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There's also a good clue on where the series is heading after the final episode *cough*ehem*cough*
You mean a cheat sheet?
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2012-07-01, 00:50 | Link #1013 | |
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Season 2 ended with Mikoto being the main attraction even if she didn't appear in the final episode, it was all about her. Even Accelerators little groupie he joined at the end was about Mikoto.
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Index needs less reliance on Touma doing things for her in her own series, at least the Anime since Anime goers don't know about her exploits in the Manga/LN/ect, and more standing on her own two feet. In that regard Season 2 failed. So hopefully Season 3 better shows off just what Index is capable of on her own even if Season 2 ended up a Mikoto note. I may not like her character, they made her too annoying in the Series like they took Kuroko's perversion too far in Railgun, as much as Misaka but I don't hate her and from from I know of the Manga/LNs she's far more capable and competent than the Anime portrayed her. Index really just needs a "Did she just do that all by herself? That's awesome!" moment to help flood out the "Why is she so needy? Does she ever stop complaining? Why does she keep biting Touma for every little thing even when it isn't his fault?" impression that many viewers got from her that leads to them assuming she's just very annoying for the sake of it. Last edited by Destined_Fate; 2012-07-01 at 01:09. |
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2012-07-01, 01:12 | Link #1014 |
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See what I mean? You've intentionally forget all of Index's serious scenes and acted like they weren't there or just down play them while all Mikoto has to do is appear and you would say she 'does something'.
Heck, you're even giving her credits for her clones and mother? What gives?
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2012-07-01, 01:18 | Link #1015 |
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They weren't all that serious considering how Touma one ups her so easily in the same episode or any episode really. She hasn't had a moment where she was "awesome" without Touma being there to bail her out or one up what she did which she really needs to help her image that the Anime failed to portray in a good light.
When did I give credit to her for her clones? And you missed the point completely. The Shadow group that recruits Accelerator at the end which explained the hit being dropped and Mikoto being very important in the future. Than there's the reason that Mikoto's mother was targeted was because she was being a hassle and was trying to get Mikoto out of the city - which she decides against after Touma shows his competence. Not to mention that the series ends with Mikoto's mom entrusting Mikoto to Touma and there is foreshadowing that Mikoto will be the target of much importance if they continue from where Season 2 left off. Index was... Where again? Right... Not the best Lead Off for a Season 3 for Index. |
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Serious scenes as in when they're talking about the situation at hand and how they should approach it, you know, stuff that isn't comedy relief? Quote:
And the best part is? She doesn't need any nonsensically 6-point-of-connection to try to involve her like what you're doing with Mikoto. That's what I mean by giving her credit for just existing- She wasn't there, she didn't do anything.
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2012-07-01, 01:35 | Link #1017 |
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It isn't just about combat, Touma doesn't need to punch someone out to steal her thunder away. Index really could have used an episode or so, like Kuroko got in Railgun that developed her into more than just a clingy jealous friend that wants to be more, just dedicated to her doing something very useful without Touma needing to be around or one upping her accomplishments. As for talking, talking isn't the same as action - be it fighting or non-fighting.
Yet Anime watchers don't know that. That's what I'be been saying, the Anime failed to portray how competent and capable Index can be without Touma being around. Uhh, she did exist and her existence was the reason that hit was called on her mother in the first place. You don't need to be around to be important to events(Which is what makes Index so important in the Manga/LN since even when she isn't around her mere existence was the driving point for many things), especially when you're the reason said events are happening to others. Or that there's heavy foreshadowing that because of said events she will be considered of outmost importance to many. The Shadow group is set on fighting for her sake, and others, in the shadows without her knowledge and leaving Touma to be there for her in the light when things slip out or become too much to contain. That's not the point. Touma, Accelerator, and Misaka have had plots as well that didn't have foreshadowing for them. They just happened. However as a Season ender they didn't even bother to leave anything open for fan interpetation on what will happen concerning Index while they left a great deal concerning Touma, Mikoto, and Accelerator and what they would be doing if a Season 3 starts. |
2012-07-01, 02:28 | Link #1018 |
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.............guh
this debate about this is getting silly. From the title debate to screen time debate and to usefulness in battle or just being in present on the scene. Its second season thread right? I will just end it with Index is way better to be with Touma than Mikoto -_- its a clash with science and magic and Touma is part of the science side and Index is the magic side. The whole mess begins when Index met up with Touma and thus the 2 sides being connected. And in a grander scheme. Index is more important than Mikoto for she is the magic library of magic side and really just get it over with your shipping for Mikoto. Its been drastic with the other threads too and it didn't help my rage for Mikoto at all. This also reminds me of why I hate Mikoto which chaoz should know or probably remember when it all roots back to this type of debate (-_- ) p
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2012-07-01, 02:34 | Link #1019 |
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Pretty sure having acqua claim he would be back is a huge point, accelerator enter the dark side od academy city.
And if you want to bring fighting power pitty pendex vs mikoto, as I would love to see how she bypass saint gregor sanctuary |
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