2013-03-02, 10:36 | Link #1521 | |
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2013-03-02, 11:15 | Link #1522 | |
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The Catholic church was probably at the height of its power when it was the nominal church of the Roman empire, it's been all down hill since then. The historical models I can see for this sort of thing are the conflicts with Islam, the European witch hunts led by the Inquisition, and the conflicts during the Protestant reformation. It seems like there were interests which led the Christian church (or churches) to try to keep nominally Christian nations under their thumb. Declaring an entire nation excommunicated is too large a risk in terms of losing a source of income. It does become a bit of a question as to when they were judging a nation and when they were judging its rulers. The case of England and Henry the Eighth is one where the issue was predominantly the ruler coming into conflict with the Roman church and his nation and the local church being led to follow him. I suppose the conflicts with Islam are a better model for this story. It may be noted than for some period of time the Islamic sphere was the intellectual center of western culture, preserving the heritage of classical culture better than the rest of Europe. The "crusades" of our world were played out over a longer time, so it's hard to compress all the different forms of stupidity involved into one short story. The "crusader states" built around Jerusalem by former crusaders gone native, are kind of like the business of Gate City. The case of Spain which for some time was in the Islamic sphere, then was re-Christianized, might be another parallel case. Where the parallels may be drawn are the differences between trading with your neighbors and demonizing them to justify wars that serve other interests.
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2013-03-02, 11:44 | Link #1523 | |
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Winter Kings trade route isn't as useful as you may think. really they only control the trade route that ends within the southern nations. A trade route has to go through your teratory to be controled by a nation and right now there aren't any routes that pass through their lands. they don't control all the seas and cuting off that trade route isn't going to hurt anyone but themselves assumeing the other nations still want to trade with them.
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2013-03-02, 15:17 | Link #1525 |
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Up north in the central nations where it's much warmer.
Remember the talk about corn planting in the Northern territories that boarder the desert? I think higher up you get the more changes you see in the scenery like in a real fantasy rpg.
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2013-03-02, 15:22 | Link #1526 |
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I absolutely loved the serf's intensity in her speech. It was powerful, and it was moving. It was warming to the heart.
Having said that, I dislike how so far we've only been shown demons being defeated and killed. I want to see corrupt humans suffer -- I want to see evil people die in this story, by Hero's hand.
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2013-03-02, 17:14 | Link #1527 |
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I have to say props to the Older Sister in this episode. She completely blew away my expectations for this episode. Instead of just going along with the plan, she stood up and claimed her humanity. You could see the doubts she'd been wrestling with for several episodes, but here she finally did away with that and took action.
Will say I was a bit worried since the more she spoke the more the result went into two extremes. Either everyone would rally around her and the Church would get the boot or she might end up getting killed as a martyr. Great episode though. Loved seeing that girl just touch the hearts and minds of everyone there and even making the Winter King take action.
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2013-03-03, 11:40 | Link #1531 | |
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While salt is valubale the human world has not had access to this trade route for years makeing it less of a barging chip as it's loss would just be bisness as normal for the central nations. currently the southern nations don't seem to have any high demand resouces that blocking a trade route would be useful for. (iron nation might have it best in terms of this type of econimic warfare as thier name at least implies that they are likely to have a gooddeal of trade in smithed goods)
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2013-03-03, 13:41 | Link #1532 |
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Verse 9: I'm Human
To me this episode particularly addressed me at a personal level.
We are flawed, but we can prove to ourselves our self-worth. I believe that it's no use to wait forever for a chance to pass and take it, in order to make ourselves known. I believe that we need to struggle our way out and keep moving, in spite of whatever burden, hardship, and desolation we will find along in the path we're walking. The worst of all tyrannies is to keep ourselves shut-up and not expressing what we truly believe about ourselves to the rest of the world; to let things to slide out of our view; to pretend that everything is well, and yet the signs that we're heading to catastrophe are visibly shown. If anything our past history has taught to all of our nations around the world is that history keeps repeating by itself, unless we stand up and speak against that we do not want anymore of that darkness. Big Maid put up an extraordinary feat of courage, in spite of all the fear overwhelming her. |
2013-03-04, 07:09 | Link #1535 |
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Many comments in this thread already represent my impression on the latest episode: the inspiring speech by Big-sis Maid, the hateful church representative, Winter King’s decision, and Crimson Scholar declared as a saint . But what interest me the most is the after-credit scene where a figure which looks like the Spirit of Light showing us many of those who have claimed the “Hero” title throughout the history before Hero (This is just a speculation, mods. Please don’t delete my post XD).
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