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View Poll Results: Shin Sekai Yori - Episode 23 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 12 | 27.91% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 15 | 34.88% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 27.91% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 9.30% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll |
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2013-03-10, 21:32 | Link #101 |
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Well, there are characters to ship, it's just that they're either dead or having trouble coping with the others being dead, so there's not a whole lot of point in it... "See that flag over there?" *boom* "what flag lol" (Also, the dead ones were 14-16 and the currently non-dead ones are 26, which doesn't really help anyone's case. XD;; )
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2013-03-10, 21:53 | Link #102 | |
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2013-03-10, 22:01 | Link #103 | |
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The particular user I mentioned also did a lot of harm to the posting environment, by creating multiple duplicate accounts and blasting out spoiler after spoiler before we were aware of it and damage control took effect. We haven't had many people as persistent about circumventing bans as this person has been, considering he was initially banned way back around episode 8 or so. I won't go into the details of how he's been doing this in public, but I'm sure you can guess. And of course, there's only so much discussion to moderate. If I were to take an extreme stance on the spoiler policy, the already limited discussion that does exist would dwindle to nothing. That sounds like a copout, but I'll be brutally honest: it's simply impossible to have a completely spoiler free environment, and people who expect otherwise, shouldn't. Unfortunately this means such people completely remove themselves from nearly all discussion for fear of spoilers, and this means even fewer people to spur meaningful conversation. It's a combination of many things that results in how a community is formed, progressed, sustained, and ultimately dwindled. To those who are spoiler phobic, the only thing I can say is the water is always cold when you first dip a toe in. If you don't take a plunge, you'll never get used to it. And look on the bright side, at least you have the choice. As a mod, I'm often spoiled on everything before most stuff even hits current discussion.
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2013-03-11, 00:01 | Link #104 | |
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Earlier you mentioned Maria and Mamoru's child as an example of spoiling. I thought the discussion about that subject followed rather naturally from the hints that were dropped in the show which led to speculation.
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2013-03-11, 00:23 | Link #105 | |
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As other posters have mentioned, Saki seemed to be more in control in some of the earlier episdoes. The scene where she gave Satorou his mantra back, in a seemingly hopeless situation, made her seem extraordinarily emotionally strong. Not because she didn't cry or seem afraid, but because she worked past it and did what needed to be done anyway. In the tokyo chase arc, she seems to be relying on others to do everything. She hasn't really helped with the planning or done much with her cantus. I don't think anyone expects her to have more tactical knowledge than Kiromaru or be more bad ass than Shun. We just want her to contribute a little bit more & not just be the heroine who screams in a suspense flick. She can still scream, I'd expect it of her character, I just want her to do something about it afterwards Maybe the director is just being more true to the novel here and it seems off to me because of the previous anime only changes *shrugs*. I know some posters in previous episdoes said a number of good ideas were originally Satorou's in the novel, not Saki's (like the reflective light trick to escape the fiend). As an anime only viewer, though; the disconnect between Saki in that scene and her in the scene with the giant centipede is noticeable. I have no idea how this is going to end (which I am enjoying quite immensely), but I am somewhat suspiscious that Saki will (somewhat) put things together at the climax & they are exagurrating her helplessness now to make the rebound more impactful. Kind of like they used some narrative exagurration about there being no plan to deal with a fiend ... and then next episode there was a last ditch plan. If it works out this way, I think it'll be ok in total ... it's just that we're at the downpoint right now, so it seems glaring and frustrating and dissonant (assuming you are an anime only viewer and don't know what happens ). |
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2013-03-11, 06:23 | Link #106 | |
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>apotheosis But that's just it, she's doing stuff here, too. Maybe it's not something as obvious as giving Satoru her power back (but then, now they're not in a situation where she would have the opportunity to do something like that), but just as you said, she's working past her fears and doing what is needed to be done, anyway. Even when Inui died her first thought, over the shock and fear, was diving back to grab the library critter, and she cried only after that. I think the fact that she managed to secure the psycho buster is enough proof of her doing the job. (Also, consider the differences in her situation back and now. Back then she had friends and family, a home. Now all she has is Satoru whom she may or may not lose, parents who may be already dead, her home has been all but destroyed, and she's burdened by the weight of a great responsibility.) Sure, she's not doing anything obviously "big" but what could she do? The planning is basically Kiroumaru leading the way and coming up with ideas, since he knows the place and knows the enemy, the rest of the group is just following him. Satoru and Inui are much better at the fighting/physical side of things than her. So all she can do is going along and concentrating on her mission without losing her heart. (By the way, the anime neglected to mention why Satoru didn't go with Saki - again, it's not plot-important and is not difficult to figure out, but it would've been nice to see them acknowledge it and add it to his characterization.) I guess ultimately this is very subjective (what isn't? ) and it's not surprising that many people want to see Saki being more visibly active as a main character. But personally, I find her more interesting this way. |
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2013-03-11, 08:33 | Link #107 | |
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2013-03-11, 12:37 | Link #108 | ||
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Following Inui's death all the trials she had to go through to get to the super-anthrax were opening a few doors and a vault, with her cantus I might add. The bald annoying monk guy could have done as much. And lets not forget that it was Satoru who unchained Kirou so it's kinda weird to give her credit for not objecting to a sound course of action. Though I'll give you that much the annoying bald monk guy could not have done that. Last edited by Repelsteeltju; 2013-03-11 at 17:08. |
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2013-03-11, 18:03 | Link #110 | ||
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Given how excessively co-dependent on others this society is, it's very hard to take action on one's own. That's just how their society was designed. Quote:
Imagine being a cold, pragmatic leader who sees that no successor is a viable choice. The older ones are too set in their ways. But you see someone with a will to live and naive enough to believe what you need to tell them. Let's just say that they too aren't really that capable? Well, sometimes a lie is a good placebo to give someone courage. Even if it's a pretty much minute chance. Of course, Tomiko could have just been wrong, lol. The humans have been very wrong on like everything as of late. They are very inflexible and once any unknown factors catch into their elaborate plans of prevention, it's gg.
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2013-03-11, 19:21 | Link #111 | |||
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I still have my hopes for Saki + McGuffin. She did manage to get to it, though the struggle felt more like a defeat than a triumph. That probably also colors my thinking ... I was full of confidence in Shun/Satorou/Saki/etc in the child & teenage arcs. Now I am not at all so sure .. Quote:
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2013-03-11, 19:29 | Link #112 | |
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However, the thing is that I truly believed in Tomiko's words when Saki was still a teenager. She truly was proactive in the story, and overcame these emotional moments. She survived these trials and continued to live on with a level head. That is why her actions in this arc so far have been pretty disappointing to me. I'd expect that since she became an adult, she'd be even more mature and stronger. Instead it almost feels like she has regressed. Granted, I expect she'll do something FINALLY in the next episodes.
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Do you mean anthrax by "weapon"? If so, it's anthrax spore engineered to be highly toxic and contagious and designed to be inhaled by the victim. I suppose it's a only weapon usable after a thousand years. |
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2013-03-12, 15:09 | Link #115 |
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How Anthrax is Weaponized
"In order to cause disease, at least 8,000 to 10,000 spores need to lodge deep in the lungs, in the tiniest air sacs known as alveoli." I wonder how much volume 8-10,000 spores consumes. The amount in the Psychobuster looks to be a few cubic centimeters.
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2013-03-12, 17:53 | Link #118 |
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Well, it's arguably already too stylish in its current decorative necklace form. Considering that it's coming out of a lab, you'd expect to see a metal or glass cylinder or sphere, and not much else.
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And creepy... Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-03-12 at 21:34. |
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2013-03-12, 23:45 | Link #120 | |
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Hey, if yodeling can kill martians, anything is possible!
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