2013-03-12, 14:31 | Link #3681 |
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I haven't seen the novel version yet (only the web), but unless they changed it, the very end (as in the last few paragraphs) of volume 8/Web 4 hinted that Tatsuya will not fight Yotsuba.
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I wonder if Tatsuya's Trident could also be useful against Phalanx? In the aforementioned incident, Trident could roll three spells into one effectively eliminating the time lag between spells and preventing enemy response. He could set the two initial barriers of Phalanx along with Juumonji as his three targets and take them all out at the same time to prevent new barriers from being put up. |
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2013-03-12, 15:26 | Link #3684 | |
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Also, Phalanx is not unbeatable. It was clearly stated in Volume 8 that Maya's magic (I forgot the name, but I translated that section) would clearly bypass Phalanx and skewer the user to death. Aside from destroying Maya's magic straight up (something only Tats can do), the orthodox way to beat her is to wrestle away control of light from her during her casting period which is like less than 1 second(impossible since Maya spent her whole life practicing light magic). Otherwise, anything that reflects even a tiny spec of light can be pierced. Only something that is 100% transparent can avoid the skewering effect. While no magic is purely defensive or offensive, the nature of Phalanx is defensive. It's depicted as the strongest type of barrier magic in existence. With that being said, it can be used offensively when you just run through everyone like a tank. Nevertheless, it's first and foremost a tank (highly defensive). |
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2013-03-12, 17:19 | Link #3686 | |
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Some people believe that Tatsuya may be projecting his "unlocked" self, but as I said, there isn't enough information to deduce whether he was or wasn't. I would just read it and keep it as a note in the back of your mind. I personally wouldn't make any definite judgement of Tatsuya vs Juumonji unless I actually read a fight. For all Ichijou was hyped up to be, Tatsuya crushed him handily in the most restricted and disadvantaged field possible. |
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2013-03-12, 17:45 | Link #3688 | |
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Post #5: That guy's who's glaring at Lina is Tats. Wonder what just happened with him doing that yet Lina's still just chilling... #11: Remember that bit where Lina confronted Tats in school and they fought (non-seriously) slightly, and ended up with a almost-kiss? Got cut down a bit in the LNs, though in exchange there's a ton more Lina flags in later scenes. (#31, a page over: original poster revised this bit, saying it wasn't cut down but was instead expanded a lot more. All of it good stuff, apparently) #13-14: We finally have a name for that public transport private train room thing. And there's now details about Leo's family magic trait. #16, Juumonji face: J - "So, the culprits are going after mages?" Mayumi: "Eep Juumonji your face is scary" (This translation is not 100% accurate) #19: Leo and Lina both found a Vampire each. Leo was pushed down by one but before the Vampire could do anything permanent Lina chased it off. This was not in WEB version. #20: USNA have long range CAD-disruption magic. This wasn't in WEB. #21: Vampires' official name: Paranormal Parasite. #22: More Lina fanservice moe scenes elsewhere when Tats visited Leo at the hospital. #24: Mikihiko's family shows up. #26: The girl at the bottom right was the one that turned into a Vampire in WEB version, living with Lina. Here in LN she's just a neighbour this time, with the girl at bottom right being Lina's roommate. #29: WEB 5-6 is split into three books. Kudou's private forces are tailing Tats' group. This Volume was filled with Lina fanservice scenes/flags. This volume ends right after Lina and Miyuki's duel. #30: Author himself snarks his book is nowhere near the length of Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon series, yet it's being split into 3 books. Probably publisher's idea. Overall: some fears Lina has her professional mage level bumped down a notch and those points are diverted into Tats+Lina scenes/fanservice. We'll see when this gets translated. QFT |
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2013-03-12, 17:52 | Link #3689 | |
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If he had for example been in the Saegusa twin's class (1st year in 2nd arc) or the current senior class (3rd year in 2nd arc or 2nd year in 1st arc), he would probably be the best. I certainly hold Masaki's power in higher regard than Hattori or Kannon based on his volume 7 showing. |
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2013-03-12, 18:06 | Link #3690 | |
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2013-03-12, 18:07 | Link #3691 |
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Thanks Flere, sounds delicious to me
Some emphasized Tats-Lina scenes are exactly what the story needs, because this will also flare up Miyuki *grins* And no matter what drill haters say, I think she's looking stunning. |
2013-03-12, 18:26 | Link #3692 |
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@Flere821: For the second picture, I presume the girl on the bottom left is Mia, or Michaela Hongo who gets possessed by the parasite to be Pixie?
If you ask me, the Web Arc was lacking in LinaxTatsuya flags and scenes, but in any case I'm sure this won't hamper the action scenes in the slightest. I think three volumes is way better than four. That would be way too long and details are always welcome. |
2013-03-12, 18:52 | Link #3694 | |
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I mean it won't make ANY sense for him to lose to at least Yanagi right now, he just beat Lina who is supposedly the strongest magician in the USNA and his powers were actually half sealed so yeah. Also there is something that you have to keep in mind when thinking about Tatsuya's ability which is versality, Kazama, Yanagi and Yakumo are all powerful magicians and fighters but they're always being in situations of close range anti-personnel combat where they excel, on the other hand Tatsuya is practically omnipotent, he can fight people in close combat, mid-range, long range, over the horizon, he can blow up cities, he can fight tanks and armored stuff head on which Yanagi had a lot of difficulity to do seeing how his magic deoesn't really destroy them, and in a group battle Tatsuya makes his allies semi-invincible by regenerating them infinitely. And if we were to just look at the characters abilities on paper without taking in consideration anything besides that I honestly can't see any of the 3 being able to fight him and win when he's at full power(Like i said, this is only on paper so i have no idea what the author would do), when he used Mist Dispersion and Cardinal George saw it and mistoke it for Molecular Divider which I think isn't as good as Mist Dispersion he was shocked and everyone around him was which means it's an amazing ability so Mist Dispersion is even more amazing, and when he used Regrowth to heal his friend everyone thought it's a high class magic of the highest level and all, now Tatsuya actually has Mist Dispersion+Gram Dispersion+Regrowth to use in batle which are all magic of the highest caliber combined with another classified ability in Elemental Sight, his abilities in combat magic are clearly at the peak of what is possible and it was already said that in ninjutsu/martial arts he surpassed Yakumo in skills he just needs more experience in that area so if you combine the two for him to lose to fighters who are just a bit higher on him when it comes to ninjutsu/martial arts but he more than compensates for it in magic(if their magic prowess is considered equal to his then i have no idea what the point behind calling his abilities classified and all) then something is wrong. |
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2013-03-12, 19:01 | Link #3695 |
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Jirachier, break up the paragraphs. It's a bit stressful on the eyes
Honestly, Tatsuya should be better than all characters thus far with his versatility and experience, but there has been enough pointless discussions that go nowhere (because of a lack of clarity and detail) that it's best to just leave everything as it is until we see a true fight before passing judgement. |
2013-03-12, 19:10 | Link #3697 | |
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2013-03-12, 19:39 | Link #3698 | |
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So overall Tatsuya is broken, and I wish the author would stop just bringing up specific counters to him and just make some of the true strongest magicians in the world(as in NOT lina) fight him and ones who are neutral against him and vice versa, I like tactics and strategy but right now it's a little too much since every single real "opponent" to tatsuya has been a direct counter, I just want him to fight someone who can handle tatsuya not because he happens to counter his abilities but because he posesses abilities that are/almost are just as amazing. |
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2013-03-12, 19:54 | Link #3699 |
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More v9 pics here: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2201941555
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