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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 2nd A's - Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 16 | 25.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 20.31% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 4.69% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 8 | 12.50% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.13% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 6.25% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.56% | |
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll |
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2013-03-21, 23:24 | Link #421 |
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http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=99306 It's located here.
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2013-03-21, 23:30 | Link #422 |
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Ah that place. I really didn't see the need of it but whatever.
In any case I am now searching for a way to see the movie but I want to wait until the spanish subs are ready. That way I will be able to understand it better.
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2013-03-21, 23:50 | Link #423 | |||
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But it's not a fair comparison, because what Fate managed to do to Signum happened before Nanohas linker core got stolen. I'm not sure how that constitutes as holding it together. Another thing is that they had the intention to steal Fate's linker core in the movie, they were merely holding her off in the series. The only thing I'll give you credit for is how Fate may have seemed a little bit more squishy in the movie. She took quite a bit of damage when she was thrown into the building the second time. But according to Signum, this should have left her unconscious. The significance of this change was made explicitely clear during their second encounter. Where Signum noted that Fate seemed far more skilled than before and had won far too easily during their first encounter. In which Signum asks if Nanoha is someone important to her in which Fate replies, "my friend." She also states this another time inferring that Fate lost her cool the first time, which was why she underperformed. Also you're completely disregarding Fate's other battles with Signum which were much more evenly matched...Which drives the point home. Quote:
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Edit: Kerokos an example of someone who has many different opinions from my own, yet I don't feel the need to give my take on everything we disagree with. Some things I comment on, yet there is a lot I dismiss as well. Even if it involves Fate. When it becomes a recurring theme and brought up constantly, I'm going to comment.
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2013-03-21, 23:56 | Link #424 |
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I was going to make another more detailed post but the amount of heated discussion is too much for my tastes (very much like when the details for the movie started trickled in, from what I remember). I'll just say that some comparisons with other movies as a sign of "mainstream corruption" are a bit extreme.
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2013-03-22, 05:32 | Link #430 |
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I don't understand why you guys like to heap so much blame on Tsuzuki as if he's solely responsible for ruining your enjoyment of Nanoha. I sincerely doubt he is making every single decision, especially about the movies. Unless he's standing there with a gun to your head making you consume all new Nanoha-franchise media, or something. I mean, the movie's separate canon from the series, so I don't see how its existence could ruin anything.
Anyway... a lot of things in the movie rubbed me the wrong way. I've always been way more of a Nanoha fan then Fate, and I loved the first movie, but this one just left me disappointed. A lot of other people have already gone into reasons so I'll just leave it at that. Now to wait for Lyrical Party 5's news, I suppose |
2013-03-22, 05:36 | Link #431 | ||
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2013-03-22, 08:13 | Link #432 | ||||||
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Considerably squishier; Fate got tossed into *two* buildings in the series, and was still able to move and fight just fine. Quote:
You know, if anything, Fate *should* have been more distraught during the series. In the movie, they actually had a chance to meet and talk, thus relieve some of the angst about being apart. In the series, the first time Fate sees Nanoha again, is when Yuuno teleports her in and she sees Nanoha unable to move on the ground. Which makes Fate's "We were apart" line in the movie feel really odd to me. You just saw her, girl! Quote:
Out of all the problems I have with Fate, I actually think this was a detriment to her character, and should have been better handled, to not make her appear so weak. She does have issues losing her cool (Jail pointed that out), but in the A's series, she didn't let it open her up to an attack, or get taken down hard because of it. Quote:
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I will say this for Tsuzuki, though... at least we are getting completely new animation, new scenes, and upgraded versions of scenes that were in the series. The poor Madoka crowd merely got the 12 episodes repackaged into two movies. The exact same animation, music, and scenes. Talk about a trolling cash grab.... although they are supposed to get a third movie that is completely new. I get the feeling we just might get a completely new third movie, though, since they set the A's movie dialogue 2 years after, instead of 6. That makes time plenty of time before StrikerS for a new movie. |
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2013-03-22, 08:37 | Link #433 | |
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Yes, Fate makes him a lot of money, and, if you read my review, you'll notice how I hated how they screwed Fate's scenes up just as much as they screwed up other characters. However, while I like Fate as a character, I don't think she needs so much screen time. Seriously, one of the things that people here (Demi., Sansker) have said is that they don't like the secondary and minor characters as much as they like Fate. Well, if Fate didn't dominate the screen time and the other characters could get fleshed out properly, maybe you would like them more. hell, my favorite characters in the franchise are the Numbers from StrikerS. And, well, it was pointed out that while the Numbers weren't too popular in StrikerS, when they got screen time and development in ViVid, suddenly their popularity sky-rocketed. Really, Tsuki, I know that Fate's the most popular character, but really, if you do any more movies or animated seasons, cut down on her screen time. She has had 3 seasons and 2 movies taking spotlight and development away from Nanoha (2 movies), Hayate (A's movie), Yuuno (anything after canon A's), Chrono, Erio, Caro and Sette. We KNOW her backstory, very tragic, yes, but you're shoving it down our throats so much that it's getting sickening. Hell, the whole shoving NanoFate at the beginning of the movie was annoying enough.
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2013-03-22, 11:00 | Link #434 | ||
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...And I doubt it. Different stokes for different folkes, but the new StrikerS cast did nothing for me, and they all had enough time to impress me. Pre-StrikerS characters are perfectly fine, though. Most of them, anyways. As for the A's movie? Unless you're looking for development from the more minor characters; Wolkenritter/Hayate/Reinforce had a darn lot by comparison of the first season. Sure Fate had her own, and there were some NanoFate scenes too (Though I'm not quite sure why Fate's solely to blame here?) Nanoha got hardly any development, that I can agree on, yet she still had a large chunk of screentime...which mostly was relegated to the action scenes.
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2013-03-22, 11:21 | Link #436 |
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Hell, I'll be honest, NONE of my favorite scenes from A's was in the movie.
No big damn heroes from Fate and Yuuno at the start. No true fight scene between Fate and Signum, no Yuuno holding off Vita. No determinator moment for Nanoha with SLB... No Chrono cornering Shamal. No Hayate stopping Reinforce, no Nanoha beating Reinforce... Yeah, all the moments that made A's good were stripped away. The only things that came out of it that was good was Reinforce's device and the Unbreakable Darkness fighting back. That's it. Could have had Lindy fight, that would have made a LOT of difference in this movie. One of the things that made Nanoha (character) so awesome was the fact that she was such a determinator, that she would never give up, never whine about anything and fight as hard as she could, and if that didn't work, she'd fight harder. It helps when we see scenes like in season 1 where she let a Jewel Seed slip away from her and then vowed to work even harder so nothing bad would happen ever again, and then we see her family's backstory, not to mention her backstory with her friends... That was ALL removed in the movies! ALL of it! They took away one of the core concepts of the character and they expect her to remain exactly the same?!
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2013-03-22, 11:53 | Link #438 |
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okay, so I was a LITTLE wrong, but still...
That comes out of left field as Nanoha, until THAT point, has had NO development towards being a determinator or trying harder than her hardest. Really, where was her Starlight Breaker as she was getting drained? That was one of her best moments in A's and it defined her throughout the season and it was taken away and NOW they put her determinator status in?! I'm supposed to believe that she's a determinator when there hasn't been ONE scene of her trying harder despite the impossible odds until that point? So, no, that scene still fails.
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2013-03-22, 12:00 | Link #439 | |
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In any case, getting her face bashed into the ground, has never deterred her.
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2013-03-22, 12:00 | Link #440 |
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I think you are taking this way too hard for no real reasons. Nanoha determination has been hinted since the Movie 1st. She never gives up and she always tries to fight what is opposing her. Only when she sees her words can’t reach it. The SLB scene is just a confirmation of such things and not what settles it.
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