2013-04-26, 12:44 | Link #81 | |
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This is probably irrelevant to the marketing process, though, since "free" is an English word and the show is being released in Japan. |
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2013-04-26, 12:50 | Link #83 | |
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2013-04-26, 13:41 | Link #84 |
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This is just disappointing news. The obvious fujiyoshi pandering is obvious of course, but I could care less about what target audience KyoAni is trying to reach for. What concerns me is that there is nothing daring about this work on the surface. KyoAni is so firmly entrenched in a world of frivolity and idealism that they will never be able to put their talents as animators to any higher artistic purpose. They don't strive to be anything more than what they are. I'd be angrier if it were not for the Kyoukai announcement, but I'm disappointed that they decided to make such a gimmicky anime.
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2013-04-26, 13:45 | Link #86 | |
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KyoAni wants to make money. They make stuff that sells. |
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2013-04-26, 13:50 | Link #87 | |
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KyoAni is doing what they always do. Serve their customers well. It's just happened that this time it is a different group of customers. As for gimmicky anime? I don't see how you can judge that from what we know.
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2013-04-26, 14:05 | Link #88 |
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*watches PV, reads thread*
Oh so Lantis is in charge of the music... No wonder BGM around 0:37 - 0:43 sounded so familiar... Reused 2:13-2:29~ Spoiler for space:
Oh~ is that you Tatsuya Katou? Edit: Oh so it's already confirmed he did it. More delicious Tatsuya music then. Well won't hurt to check this out in the summer. As for those reactions to this everywhere else...oh boy.
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2013-04-26, 14:09 | Link #89 | |
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2013-04-26, 14:16 | Link #90 | ||
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Ive been saying the same thing years. Quote:
Anyhow I'm not asking for kyoani to be like David lynch here.
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2013-04-26, 14:19 | Link #91 | |
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No, KyoAni makes what they want to make. Just because they're not making what you want them to make doesn't make them some cynical cabal who don't care about what they make except inasmuch as it can be manufactured to appeal to the preferences of otaku. That description better fits modern Sunrise. Also this. |
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2013-04-26, 14:25 | Link #92 |
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Key wasn't cut off. They just couldn't wait for the studio who was booked up. And in case you don't know, KyoAni does NOT own the rights to Haruhi or K-On. You can't milk a cow you don't own.
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2013-04-26, 14:37 | Link #94 | |
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It just frustrates me to see people call KyoAni out as "panderers", as if they don't care about what they make beyond its possibility for money making. It's not like Free is a guaranteed mega-hit either. |
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2013-04-26, 14:40 | Link #95 | |
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As for Haruhi, it's a matter of who's the unwilling party. If KyoAni wanted to do it, would Kadokawa turn them down? I don't think so. Feel free to correct me on any of this. I seriously don't really know for sure and most of this is just speculative. |
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2013-04-26, 14:50 | Link #96 | |
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Making original anime is a serious and risky undertaking. They are only now trying it out again. Tamako Market and Chuunibyou are the original properties they made so far. They get a larger share of the profits, but since they are their own boss they can lose money. Free! would be next. I can't help but feel it is rather arrogant to demand KyoAni to be more artistic. Especially since the unspoken expectation is that you want them to take risks for your sake. And worse, that you won't compensate for their losses. If KyoAni works are supposedly low on artistic merit, then what are other studios in comparison? You want KyoAni to make art? Then pay them. That's how artists work, by commission. I am sure KyoAni would make any kind of high brow anime you want, to your specifications, if you just agree to finance them for the service rendered.
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2013-04-26, 15:00 | Link #97 | |
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Kadokawa clique: Haruhi, Lucky Star, Nichijou, Hyouka: Kadokawa Shoten (publisher/international rights) Kadokawa Pictures (video distributor/domestic distribution (TV and internet), later combined into Shoten) Kyoto Animation (animation production) (Lantis) - Only in a couple of shows (music distribution/production in all shows) Klockworx (rental distribution) TBS clique: AIR, Kanon, Clannad, K-On!: TBS - (main financier/domestic distribution (TV and internet)/international rights) Pony Canyon - (video distributor/music distributor/producer (K-On! only) MOVIC - merchandise/live event producer Kyoto Animation - (animation production) KyoAni clique: Chuunibyou, Tamako Market: Kyoto Animation - (publisher/animation production) Pony Canyon - (video distributor/music distributor/producer (Tamako only) (Lantis) - (music producer/distributor - Chuunibyou only) TBS - (digital distribution/international rights) Basically the general rule of thumb with committees is that, the higher you are, the more you put in and the more you get in return. Just by taking a look at the structure, you see KyoAni getting much more of the returns for these original shows than by adapting something from Kadokawa/Key. I've not actually seen Key's spot in the production committee for their shows, so I'm not sure where they lie. It's quite simple to see why they want to do originals rather than adaptations: it pays more even if they sell less discs. Of course, they're also running a higher risk. What's interesting with FREE! is that it's also produced by Asahi Broadcasting (ABC), who already has their site up for the series. As you'll note above, they've not been listed on any of the previous committees, so we're in unchartered territories here. Here's what we know about FREE!'s committee: KyoAni (animation production/rights holder/original creator) Asahi Broadcasting (television rights/domestic distribution (TV/internet)) Lantis (music production/distribution)
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2013-04-26, 15:02 | Link #98 |
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I came to see the hatred and I have not been disappointed
[/B]Durarara, UtaPri, Hakuoki, Tiger and Bunny and not to mention all of those otome games that are getting anime adaptions this summer all say "YO.'
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2013-04-26, 15:04 | Link #99 | |
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